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Old 10-22-2012, 8:30 PM
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Default Optics for dedicated bench rest

I have never really looked at optics for dedicated benchrest type setups, but I was curious what types of optics are popular in the high magnification league.

I saw this video and I was a little amazed, I guess I never looked hard enough but I didn’t know optics with such high magnification can be had.



While that scope (March 80x) is WAY out of my budget, what else is popular? I’m thinking the Vortex PST of dedicated bench rest optics from a price, optics, value standpoint.

I came across the Sightron SIII 10-50x60, but this is a new optics class/category to me. Anyone have any suggestions?

Just in case I wasn’t clear please don’t recommend the typical 4-16x, 5-20x 6-24x as I already have optics like that, and that’s not really what I am looking for.
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Don't know anything about sightron but MMMEGA Sale at SWFA on them right now.

http://swfa.com/Sightron-Closeouts-C4847.aspx
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Being in So Cal, super high-powered optics will probably be worthless to you since mirage will destroy the image.

I am however quite curious about how he was shooting, i've never seen that kind of rest setup... looked like the little joystick he was working with his left hand was working windage somehow? Everything was so smooth... i was truly amazed.
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those are some expensive scope . that view of 100 yards on target is sick ! like using a spotter scope wow. thanks for that vid
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Being in So Cal, super high-powered optics will probably be worthless to you since mirage will destroy the image.

I am however quite curious about how he was shooting, i've never seen that kind of rest setup... looked like the little joystick he was working with his left hand was working windage somehow? Everything was so smooth... i was truly amazed.
You are probably right… but I figure it can’t be worse than thought a spotter? I don’t know if the larger objective size of a spotter helps when looking thought atmosphere…

Either way, I would love to try and shoot some groups with a very high power hair thin reticle like that. I don’t need the scope, but I’m a big optics whore so I can’t help but want it haha.

His setup was the first I’ve seen like that… it looked like its riding on some type of suspension track or rail, it was kind of unreal to watch him fire off a big bore that fast, and with a group that’s rather impressive.
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Old 10-22-2012, 9:56 PM
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I'm not well versed with ultra high powered optics... just relaying the little info i know. The common complaint about ultra high powered optics seems to be mirage... even off the barrel of a rifle.

As for that guy shooting, the group at a 1000 yards is ridiculous at the speed he was shooting. You look at the "through the scope" portion and it looks like a 20x scope at 100 yards or something so you think... "eh not a big deal"... then you remember it's at 1000 yards. HOLY COW!
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It's a SEB Coaxial Front Rest.

http://www.sebcoax.com/

Expensive, very. There are other units from other mfgs like Farley. I've seen on in action at Camp Pendleton, it's very impressive.
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Amazing! I'm a rimfire benchrest guy and not a long range guy but even for us 50m types a 16x or 24x scope is common and some use 36x scopes. If you can't see it you can't hit it.
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Nightforce 12-42x56 BR is probably the most common in the long range BR game. Sightron SIII 10-50x60 is the best value in my opinion. I have both.
If I could justify it, I'd have a March 10-60x. With the March, seeing bullet holes in the white at 600 yds. is not uncommon with no mirage.

We start shooting at ~8am and 42/50x is usable. When the temps go up later in the day, I'm down around 30-35x or so. A person could definitely get by with an 8-32x scope but, I wouldn't want to.


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I have never really looked at optics for dedicated benchrest type setups, but I was curious what types of optics are popular in the high magnification league.

I saw this video and I was a little amazed, I guess I never looked hard enough but I didnít know optics with such high magnification can be had.



While that scope (March 80x) is WAY out of my budget, what else is popular? Iím thinking the Vortex PST of dedicated bench rest optics from a price, optics, value standpoint.

I came across the Sightron SIII 10-50x60, but this is a new optics class/category to me. Anyone have any suggestions?

Just in case I wasnít clear please donít recommend the typical 4-16x, 5-20x 6-24x as I already have optics like that, and thatís not really what I am looking for.
ExtremeX,

Just to chime in on that setup. I met the guys from Kelby and March at last years shot show and had the chance to play around with some of those scopes. Absolutely amazing, near incredible. I understand that March scopes are pricey and not as well known here yet, but from the construction, solid turrets, glass, etc, they are an amazing optic. I wanted to review that 80x but I would need to get out of Illinois to even make it worth while. At 600 yards here it might feel like my muzzle was touching the paper at 80x.

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I can't even find where to buy a March scope. Is Kelby the only place? I'd like to try one.
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Dave,

I believe Kelby is the only importer. Not 100% on that. I spoke with Ian Kelbly at SHOT and he is a good guy. Their contact info is on this page as well as the March scope section:

http://www.kelbly.com/actions.html

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Nightforce 12-42x56 BR is probably the most common in the long range BR game. Sightron SIII 10-50x60 is the best value in my opinion. I have both.
If I could justify it, I'd have a March 10-60x. With the March, seeing bullet holes in the white at 600 yds. is not uncommon with no mirage.

We start shooting at ~8am and 42/50x is usable. When the temps go up later in the day, I'm down around 30-35x or so. A person could definitely get by with an 8-32x scope but, I wouldn't want to.

When I shot at sac valley 1000yard range in July the highest I could go was 12x. The Nightforce and Sightron seem cheap at only 1-1400$? I am going to have to see if I can find one to look through.
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When I shot at sac valley 1000yard range in July the highest I could go was 12x. The Nightforce and Sightron seem cheap at only 1-1400$? I am going to have to see if I can find one to look through.
Central valley in July is HOT! Sac. Valley is where I shoot the long range benchrest "Nationals" matches in April & used to be Oct. It's rare that I'm not above 30x there. (Granted I don't get out there nearly as much as I'd like to). The great thing about the NF & Sightron scopes is, you can get down to 12 or 10x if needed but still have a lot of magnification up top when needed and able. Nightforce ~$1350, Sightron SIII ~$850 ($799 when I bought all of mine). Nightforce can usually be found used for a couple hundred less on AccurateShooter dot com.

BR practice on Monday's or monthly matches on Sunday near the end of the month will provide you with the ability to look thru a NF BR scope. (@ Sac).

I thought there were 600 yard matches up near Redding somewhere...?


The clarity of the March is phenomenal, which is why I'd love to have their 10-60x. I was really "Jonesing" for an 8-80x when they were first announced. I've since spoke to several that have one or both and say the
8-80x is rarely usable from 60-80x and they've all recommended the 10-60x model. 5 year warranty, Kelbly's is the sole importer as far as I know.

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Central valley in July is HOT! Sac. Valley is where I shoot the long range benchrest "Nationals" matches in April & used to be Oct. It's rare that I'm not above 30x there. (Granted I don't get out there nearly as much as I'd like to). The great thing about the NF & Sightron scopes is, you can get down to 12 or 10x if needed but still have a lot of magnification up top when needed and able. Nightforce ~$1350, Sightron SIII ~$850 ($799 when I bought all of mine). Nightforce can usually be found used for a couple hundred less on AccurateShooter dot com.

BR practice on Monday's or monthly matches on Sunday near the end of the month will provide you with the ability to look thru a NF BR scope. (@ Sac).

I thought there were 600 yard matches up near Redding somewhere...?


The clarity of the March is phenomenal, which is why I'd love to have their 10-60x. I was really "Jonesing" for an 8-80x when they were first announced. I've since spoke to several that have one or both and say the
8-80x is rarely usable from 60-80x and they've all recommended the 10-60x model. 5 year warranty, Kelbly's is the sole importer as far as I know.

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Yeah I really need to go out more. I just cant justify only being able to shoot 60-80rds for a 5hr round trip drive; when I have access to a 1400m range only 1.5hrs away. I would like to compete once I feel I am good enough though.
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