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Old 02-14-2010, 11:49 PM
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Anyone know the cheapest place in LA to do an out of state transfer on a Makarov pistol from Aim Surplus? Thanks!
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+1 Anglin Second Hand. Reasonable prices and very friendly. That's good to hear they are OLL friendly. Very cool guys!

Just got off the phone with:

Unique Pawnbrokers
3039 University Avenue
San Diego, CA 92104
(619)-294-3305

They are supposedly not doing any more FFL transfers of any kind. They used to transfer OLL's/AKMs and they used to offer a LEO discount too!

I also spoke with the guys at:

Royal Loan
3033 El Cajon Boulevard
San diego, CA 92104
(619) 284-2274

and they remarked they would not transfer a CA legal AK-74 for me. Bummer.

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Anyone know the cheapest place in LA to do an out of state transfer on a Makarov pistol from Aim Surplus? Thanks!
Is it on the roster or is it C&R and therefore exempt?
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Is it on the roster or is it C&R and therefore exempt?
C&R or not all handguns in California have to dros. Just cheked the doj site.
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hey guys just came back from turners in pasadena with a very shocking price of their ffl fees. $125 not including dros fees($30) and tax (got the gun for $470 nib) . the reason for $125 was that he said turners rather wants me to buy their springfields which btw was $599. luckily the store manager was nice enough to tell me that other gun stores are much cheaper than turners. well no more business from turners from me! corporate theives!
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thats nothing new. Turners does not want to do transfers, so they price their transfer fee accordingly. Other stores are willing to do transfers, so they price their transfer fees to encourage transfers.
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If Turner's DROS fee is $30, they are going to have a serious problem since they can only charge $25.
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Turner's does not charge $30 for DROS. They invoice it correctly. $25 in state fees and a $5 dealer fee.
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Then what is the $125? It sounds like it is $125 + $30 DROS + sales tax, based on the message that was posted.
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they charge $30 for a normal purchase at the store. $25 in assorted state fees + $5 Turners fee. If they want to charge an attitional $125 for a transfer fee, then it would be invoiced as $25 + $5 + $125 + tax.
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Alamo Jewelry & Loan in West Covina on Azusa north of the 10 fwy

$65.00 ($40 + $25 DROS=$65.00)

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Alamo Jewelry & Loan in West Covina on Azusa north of the 10 fwy

$65.00 ($40 + $25 DROS=$65.00)

626 967 5367
+1 New place but FFL holder, Josh was doing PPTs and sales prior through another pawn shop that's been in the business for a long time. Great guy really friendly, OLL friendly. Best prices in SGV for transfers. I have done a couple of transfers with him in the past.

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Old 02-22-2010, 10:04 PM
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no it would come out to 155 not including the sales tax! the thing with turners is that i called last week and asked what their ffl transfer fees were and they told me 35 dollars! i go there today and it's 125. thanks for the alamo info but already made plans with riflegear. gonna also pick up a lower there too.

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Uncle Ed's in atascadero chargers 75 to use them to receive for mail order , internet order etc. I think its 10 for every gun after one.

atascadero arms I beleive also chargers 75 for receiving , dont know what they charge for every gun after one.
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no it would come out to 155 not including the sales tax! the thing with turners is that i called last week and asked what their ffl transfer fees were and they told me 35 dollars! i go there today and it's 125. thanks for the alamo info but already made plans with riflegear. gonna also pick up a lower there too.
sounds like they thought you meant a PPT, which is $35 because that is the max allowed by law. But a normal transfer, the FFL can charge any amount they wish, and Turners wishes to charge $125 transfer fee + $5 dealer fee + $25 state (DROS) fees.
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nope i asked specifically how much for out of state ffl transfer for a springfield xd 40 and someone on the line told me $35. i bought it yesterday from budsgunshop.com and when i go into turners they hit me with that big *** ffl fee. plus he only said $125 ffl fee after he saw what price i got the gun for ($475 btw). then he goes on to say we carry the same handgun but for $599. i don't know but to me it feels like he made up the ffl price right on the spot and used turners policy as an excuse. either way i'm never going to turners for anything.
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I can tell you that the $125 transfer fee has been the fee for at least a couple years. I've seen that price posted right next to the price chart that shows the DROS fees break-down for dealer sales and PPTs.

Unless they changed the transfer fee when the new owners took over, I'd guess that the guy you talked to originally misquoted you. But since I wasn't there, I don't know. I'm just saying that the $125 transfer fee at Turners is not just something he pulled out of his butt, that it has been known to be the fee there for a couple years.

See, here is post from 2008 that references the $125 fee, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...3&postcount=23
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I think J&R Sports Supply in Livermore needs to be updated:
From what I see on their website the new fee chart shows
a transfer as costing $75 + DROS + applicable taxes
http://www.jrguns.com/Transfer-Fees.html

Seems everyone is jumping on the transfer fee raping.
I just can't see why these fees should be literally 3-4 times the amount every gun store charges out of Cali. In J&R's defense, the place is one of the few places were I felt like they cared what I wanted not just what they had on the shelf to sell me.
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Bright Spot Pawn and C&W Reloading both quoted me at 60 including DROS, im getting an OLL. both seemed like genuine people.
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Tracy Rifle and Pistol
PPT-$35.00
Transfer fee $40.00 + DROS $25.00 Total $65.00
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I just emailed Pennington Firearms (the one at the very bottom of the list). If all the info is legit and they get back to me confirming so, I'm gonna **** a brick. This is great news.
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are these prices for ffl to ffl transfers? cuz i called around to all my local ffl's and every single one quoted me 150 bucks for ffl to ffl transfers!!!
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Edited to reflect METCO Firearms #2 business name change to Cordelia Gun Exchange
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I just had a shotgun shipped to The Grant Boys in Costa Mesa... it was $125 including DROS ($100 FFL fee + $25 DROS). This is what I get for being a noob.. and not searching.
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I just had a shotgun shipped to The Grant Boys in Costa Mesa... it was $125 including DROS ($100 FFL fee + $25 DROS). This is what I get for being a noob.. and not searching.
Yea, $35-$45 is the normally the best price range for the FFL to FFL fee. Live and learn!
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I charge $35 for any transaction. Transfer? Just add DROS and tax. On gun sales I add $60 and tax to get my out-the-door price. My business is beating other people's prices. Ask me the wholesale price of anything. I'll give it to you.
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Using Paul for my first out of state transfer. His fees are $30 for handguns and $35 for long guns (ontop of $25 DROS) + 3% for credit card payments. Lets keep this simple people, when we mention 'fees', it is a given that you will add the $25 for DROS.

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There is no sales tax on a PPT and only sales tax on an out of state transfer if the firearm comes from a business (need a letter to not have to pay sales tax).

If sales tax is due, the FFL can require the full amount at the time the paperwork is started or anytime they choose. If the person is writing a check, doing it at the start gives time for the check to clear. If the person is paying in cash, then anytime before the firearm is picked up should be fine, but it is up to the FFL. The FFL could require all the fees before they do anything.
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Now I have a question about state tax. Normally you will fill out a form that you report the sale/value price of the firearm (PPT or out of state transfer) to the state and pay the tax on it but can a FFL make you pay it upfront as part of the transfer? Some other FFLs have mentioned that they include state tax.

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There is no sales tax on a PPT and only sales tax on an out of state transfer if the firearm comes from a business (need a letter to not have to pay sales tax).
So if the firearm comes from a private party out of state then I am not required to pay CA state tax on the transfer?

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I checked with OC Indoor yesterday, and they are "black rifle" friendly, provided one of two conditions:
Stripped lowers are GTG
Assembled rifles must be California Compliant (bullet button), and the (10rd) magazine must be installed when the gun is received by OC Indoor.
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So if the firearm comes from a private party out of state then I am not required to pay CA state tax on the transfer?
Correct.

If the firearm comes from a private party (in state or out of state) and the person is willing to document that it is a private sale, an occasional sale and that they don't have a business, then sales tax is not to be collected. The occasional sale is an important aspect, as well as whether they have a business. I am not sure that it matter if it is not a firearm business since the BOE rules just say that a FFL must collect sales tax if the firearm comes from a business. Now, you could say that the person is personally sending and not the business, but you could have an issue.

The main thing is that the FFL must have documentation to show that it is sales tax exempt.
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Here is an update for AKI.

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Jim Bowen
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5212 Bolsa Ave. Unit 3 - Huntington Beach CA 92649
$50 Out The Door (Including DROS)
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http://www.firearms-training.info/tr...acilities.html

$50 out the door including DROS and no tax BS. He also accepts from private parties (non FFL holders). He is now OLL friendly. The lower needs to have CA complaint magazine lock before it leaves the shop. I didn't ask if this applies to stripped lowers.
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Bay Area Update:
Just called around a few places looking for shops that would take a long gun from a private seller without requiring it to be sent from a FFL...

Diablo Vally Gun works
1942 Linda Dr. Pleasant Hill 925.676.4117
-will accept long guns mailed directly to them, $75 fee (+ DROS = $100)

Castro Valley Gun Shop
22287 Redwood Road
Castro Valley, CA 94546
(510) 581-1917
-will accept long guns mailed directly to them, $150 fee (+ DROS = $175)

Independence Armory
1270 Petaluma Boulevard North, Suite A
Petaluma, CA 94952.
Phone: 707.773.4867
-will accept long guns mailed directly to them, $75 fee (+ DROS = $100)

JK Supply Co.
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Ione, CA 95640
(209)274-2383
-will accept long guns mailed directly to them, $50 fee (+ DROS = $75)

City Arms
90 Eureka Square , Suite D, Pacifica CA 94044
650.738.6896
Requires guns to be sent from a FFL $75 fee (+ DROS = $100)

J and R Sports Supply
2558 Old 1st Street
Livermore, CA 94550
(925) 443-9691
Requires guns to be sent from a FFL $75 fee (+ DROS = $100)

Bullseye Precision Indoor Shooting Range
1281 Andersen Drive
San Rafael, CA 94901-5335
(415) 453-7465
-will accept long guns mailed directly to them, $150 fee (+ DROS = $175)
BLACK RIFLES $300 FEE (+DROS + $325)!

...stopped calling around at this point.
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I use Pacific Coast Home Defense. The owners name is Dennis McDade. He has a store front in Oceanside. His fee is $35 for a PPT plus the usual $25 DROS. Great guy to deal with. I will ALWAYS use him for my FFL dealings. His number is (760) 803-0300.
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Bright Spot Pawn and C&W Reloading both quoted me at 60 including DROS, im getting an OLL. both seemed like genuine people.
+1 on Bright spot pawn, I've dealt with them in past with a couple internet handgun transfers. I believe it was Chris that handled them for me. Everything went smoothly and will deal with them again.

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Does anyone know of a good FFL dealer in the Bay Area that 1) doesn't charge and arm+leg and 2) will work with MidwayUSA?

Apparently MidwayUSA has some strange rules, where they require the FFL dealer to actually place the order and provide payment instead of the end-consumer. I talked to the guys at Bay Area Gun Vault in Mountain View today and they were unwilling.
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Does anyone know of a good FFL dealer in the Bay Area that 1) doesn't charge and arm+leg and 2) will work with MidwayUSA?
I rather think that it is easier to deal with the kitchen table FFLs rather than the stores for this sort of thing. Try RMB Enterprises in Milpitas, or Roger's Relics in Santa Clara, both on the list in this thread's original post.
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Thanks Ike. I just got off the phone with Roger's and they said that dealing by MidwayUSA's rules turns the transfer into a sale, which then they need to make money on and charge tax. That means that it's cheaper for me to just buy locally, even with the sale price on MidwayUSA. :\ Maybe I can find the same deal online elsewhere...
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Center Mass Shooting Range/-707-449-4867-/Vacaville, Ca

$35 = PP Transfer FTF
+$65 = is for internet-, mail-order, etc... (ie. sending out signed FFL, receiving firearm, DROS & keeping the firearm for you for 10 days)

OLL's - GTG

Has new Handguns and long rifles
Has a rental selection


I would like to add a place that I found in Vacaville. Joe at Center Mass performed an OLL transfer. The staff there were great. I walked in asked if the performed OLL transfers and the guy behind the counter (Joe) stated yes we do. What do you have.
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