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Old 02-10-2016, 9:23 PM
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I noticed my BCG's gas key isnt staked on my Ruger 556 OR the castle nut. I know it's easy to stake, but I'm curious if not having it staked is really that bad.
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Supposedly it could affect reliability and longevity. I haven't had this problem personally so I only speak from what I read.
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I prefer mine staked. Gas key & Castlenut in that order.
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Castle nut should be staked, but if it loosens you'll probably notice and re-tighten. Gas key REALLY should be staked as well, if it loosens you'll have major malfunctions. Stake both
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Interesting read. I don't doubt their process but in some situations there is more than one way to skin a cat. I trust Daniel Defense and other high quality manufacturers know how to properly stake their gas keys. I also have backup BCGs for a SHTF situation.
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Cool so, 56 INCH pounds for gas key screws and 40 FOOT POUNDS for castle nut right?
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Looks handy man, however I'm not gonna spend that much on something I'll only use once.
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Old 02-11-2016, 6:35 PM
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Have you asked Ruger about this?
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Umm gas key definitely needs to be staked. That's some BS Ruger!
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I noticed my BCG's gas key isnt staked on my Ruger 556 OR the castle nut. I know it's easy to stake, but I'm curious if not having it staked is really that bad.
UHM, its a Ruger everything is "really that bad"
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The big boys [military contractors that make the M16 and M4] Stake theirs.
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Ruger is a piston gun?
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The big boys [military contractors that make the M16 and M4] Stake theirs.
The 'big boys' stake theirs because it is part of the contract, not necessarily because it does anything beneficial.

I'm not against staking, but I think people make too much of a big deal out of it. Your brake calipers aren't staked, your head bolts aren't staked, your life depends on nuts and bolts that are properly torqued and/or glued down without any staking and no one complains about that.
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Old 02-11-2016, 8:23 PM
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Update on that gas key. It IS "staked" but it's so damn clean and light that it DOESN'T look staked at all. But deformed metal is barely touching the screws. It should be fine. But I've seen keys that look like the metal is like almost covering the screw's head. By the way, I've never had an issue with Ruger, I love them. BUT BUT BUT, the castle nut I can confirm is NOT staked. So yeah.
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Update on that gas key. It IS "staked" but it's so damn clean and light that it DOESN'T look staked at all. But deformed metal is barely touching the screws. It should be fine. But I've seen keys that look like the metal is like almost covering the screw's head. By the way, I've never had an issue with Ruger, I love them. BUT BUT BUT, the castle nut I can confirm is NOT staked. So yeah.
Over 41 years experience with Rugers and I have had nothing but trouble with Rugers. Luckily, I have never owned any of them but they have belonged to students in my classes
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Over 41 years experience with Rugers and I have had nothing but trouble with Rugers. Luckily, I have never owned any of them but they have belonged to students in my classes
Sorry man. That's a long time but maybe they've improved their quality. Kia/Hyundai used to make ****tty cars, now they have one of the best warrantees available. Also Ruger's customer service is really good as well. But still sucks what you've gone though man.
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