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Old 04-08-2016, 5:14 PM
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Default Brass Came Not All Swaged, Keep or Send Back?

I ordered 1500 brass that was cleaned, processed, and swaged.

It arrived today excited to prime and load and they kept hanging up in my hand primer. I checked and the brass was not swaged. It's all been sized but not swaged.

I grabbed several handfuls and I'd say it's about 25-40% is swaged and the rest not. Certainly not what I paid for. I really don't want to sort 1500 pieces to see how many are or aren't. The idea would be to just grab and prime.

Should ask for a full refund and paid to ship back? Partial refund? Pretty frustrating as I now have to sort it to use it.
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Old 04-08-2016, 5:20 PM
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ask them and see what they say . 40 % is alot . I would just sort them out and give them the count . see if they will match the quantity . paid shipping on their ends of course
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Poor quality control to miss 40%.
Maybe they will ship you that 40% definitely swaged and checked.
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Old 04-08-2016, 6:58 PM
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They didn't miss 40%, they missed 60-75%.

Let the vendor make it right.
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Old 04-08-2016, 7:32 PM
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They didn't miss 40%, they missed 60-75%.

Let the vendor make it right.
Ouch, read it wrong!

They should send you the full amount done right.
I hope you have more luck than I did.

I ordered some brass from a "veteran owned" business in Texas and the first order was fine.
But the last order dragged out for months before I contacted VISA and got a refund.
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Old 04-08-2016, 7:43 PM
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Ugh! I hate swaging. Demand they make it right.
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Old 04-08-2016, 7:43 PM
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Went through some more and looks like the ones that didn't get swaged also didn't get trimmed. Maybe batches got mixed up. All sized but the swaged one seem to be the only one that are trimmed.

I suppose I could sort through on a white towel what's swaged and not then see if they'd refund that amount per brass or something.
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Old 04-08-2016, 7:59 PM
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The only brass I have ever purchased was "once fired" Lake City 5.56. Since then, I have realized that I can buy Wolf Gold for about 6 cents per round more than steel case. Now I know that any brass I reload really was only once fired and wasn't fired through a machine gun.

I have a Dillon swager and a Giraud trimmer so swaging and trimming is no big deal to me.
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Old 04-08-2016, 8:19 PM
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Are they Annealed? or did they forget that too...
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Old 04-08-2016, 8:25 PM
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Not annealed. That wasn't offered which is fine.

I have the tools to trim and swage but work and girlfriend time = find brass already processed.

Once a better way to mount the dillon 1500 trimmer on a hornady progressive comes out I'll upgrade. Right now it's a drill press for trimming and countersink in a drill for removing crimp. Hate hate hate I have to handle each piece of brass. Converting to a Dillon 650 is lots of $$$ though since I do 6 calibers.
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Old 04-08-2016, 8:44 PM
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I have bought a ton of brass from these guys:

http://www.brassbombers.com/

I bought cleaned, deprimed and swaged Lake City and it is very fine. But you do have to size and trim it--it's not ready to reload when it arrives. Since they're in California you'll have to pay sales tax, but they do pick up the shipping and are prompt and easy to deal with.

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Old 04-09-2016, 8:28 AM
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Some .223 is not crimped and does not need any swaging. You might want to look again and make sure you are not mistaking crimped and non crimped brass.
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If primers are not going in, the pockets aren't swaged.
Bitter experience taught me this long ago
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Old 04-09-2016, 5:13 PM
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Definitely 300-500 were not swaged/crimped removed AND trimmed. I have a case guage and checked. I'm familiar with crimps and usually swage my own but thought I came across a deal for fully processed 223. I went through the whole batch. Figured this way I can ask for a $30 refund now or have them ship me 500 completely processed now.
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Old 04-09-2016, 6:38 PM
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So, what company, and what did they say when you approached them about the issue?
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Just reread. Your post was only yesterday. Looking forward to the outcome.
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