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Old 09-19-2012, 1:00 PM
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My lovely wife got a cite for throwing a cigarette out the window (23111cvc) in Burbank . I've read that fines are 100 to 1000. Has anyone here got one or knows of anyone that got one. How much should I expect including court fines. thanks.
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Never had one cause I don't smoke, but found this online.

The statewide schedule calls for a fine of $380 for a violation of Vehicle Code section 23111. But the mandatory fine may be as high as $1,000, plus a minimum of 8 hours of picking up trash is required pursuant to CVC section 42001.7.
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You're lucky she didn't start a fire. That's a heavy fine!
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You're lucky she didn't start a fire. That's a heavy fine!
She would have a better chance winning the lottery than starting a fire by throwing a cig out the window. Yea, they can and do start a few fires a year but, more people win the lottery!
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No ashtray? Quit smoking in the car.
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they are biodegradable. this state is so stupid.
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You're lucky she didn't start a fire. That's a heavy fine!
Not to mention if they prove it was youre cigarette that started the fire you get a bill for the resources used to put it out. In the summer months a standard vegetation fire dispatch around here is something to the effect of(TCU);
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they are biodegradable. this state is so stupid.
I did a search and it looks like the butts are NOT biodegradable and people say they take from 10 years to some say never to decompose...

Butt even if it took 1 year why would anyone want to see your litter for that long...
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She would have a better chance winning the lottery than starting a fire by throwing a cig out the window. Yea, they can and do start a few fires a year but, more people win the lottery!
Maybe not a fire, but I'll tell you it's no fun getting hit with one on the freeway while on a motorcycle. I don't find it unreasonable to ask someone not to throw them out the window.
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I ride a motorcycle, so I may have the opposite view of many on here. I've been hit in the face with lit cigarette butts and it is no fun.

If it's good enough to stick in your mouth, it's good enough to hang around in your car with you for awhile.

Please don't throw your butts out the window.
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Maybe not a fire, but I'll tell you it's no fun getting hit with one on the freeway while on a motorcycle. I don't find it unreasonable to ask someone not to throw them out the window.
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I ride a motorcycle, so I may have the opposite view of many on here. I've been hit in the face with lit cigarette butts and it is no fun.

If it's good enough to stick in your mouth, it's good enough to hang around in your car with you for awhile.

Please don't throw your butts out the window.
Same here, among other things (bottles, cans, etc). Seems that if people feel its ok to throw one thing out of the window they start throwing other things out of it as well.
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My brother and i were at a stoplight once and the lady in the car next to us tossed her cigarette butt out the window, my brother said politely "hey mam?" She said "yes?" and my brother then yelled IS THE WHOLE WORLD YOUR F***ING ASHTRAY!!!!!!!
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Even flicking ashes out the window is illegal from a report I saw on the news.
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they are biodegradable. this state is so stupid.
IMO what is stupid is that people have no regard for anyone but themselves or accept any responsibility for what they do. I ride a motorcycle and getting hit with a hot one is not fun.

That said, to answer the OP's question I would say during this time of the year expect the judge to be displeased with your wife's actions. As for the amount of the fine, expect the max and if you get out for less you'll feel lucky!!
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+1 on yzernie's take. It's dangerous to riders, a big time fire hazard especially at this time of year and I once had a discarded butt come in my open window. Think that driver got a pinch?

I don't care if you want to smoke. I used to. But I do care if you are doing something so disrespectful to public safety.
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Well, they might not start a fire every time, but in my career I put out two that were caused by cigarettes.

And I always wrote a ticket for this when I saw it. Zero slack....
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Issued a ticket to a person who threw one out as I pulled her over. It was her birthday, guess what she got as a present.

To 556, define biodegradable in this sense?

To the OP, good luck.
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She would have a better chance winning the lottery than starting a fire by throwing a cig out the window. Yea, they can and do start a few fires a year but, more people win the lottery!
How about a lot of fires every year? Ever seen a cigarette thrown from a vehicle at night? How about the sudden glow from the influx of oxygen, and the burst of sparks each time it bounces on the roadway surface? Yeah, I've seen a lot of fires started along the roadways that were caused by careless and selfish morons flicking their trash everywhere.

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they are biodegradable. this state is so stupid.
Because cigarette butts are so lovely floating down the water ways, sidewalks and landscaping.

The one violation that is just about guaranteed a citation from me is this one. Every time, no mercy. How about drivers use the @#$%@ing ashtray in their vehicle and not burn the countryside down?
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Even flicking ashes out the window is illegal from a report I saw on the news.
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I am American Indian (1/4 Cherokee and 1/4 Yaqui Apache). When you through your trash on the ground you are littering in my church. Please don't.
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I bet she won't do that again!
Driving a good amount of time for work I see to many people
just tossing lit butt's out the window. I'm always wondering why they didn't buy the ash tray with that model?
I'd like to see more tickets handed out to people disreguarding litter laws. -g
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Way back in my younger years, when I did my fire fighter 1 internship with CDF (now CalFire), our station was right off Hwy 101 in San Martin, we literally, in the summer months, we're going to fires started by tossed cigarettes almost everyday along 101. Albeit they were not big ragers or anything, but they definitely started up. Most were simple enough, roll out, pull a side line, throw a few gallons of water, call it good, but it did require us to gear up, start the engine that gets a whopping 2 mpg, tear *** out, and then an hour of writing reports and other associated BS.

To those that think tossing cigs out he window don't start fires..... You are quite dillusional.
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Not to mention the butts make their way into our rivers and ocean, and spread toxic chemicals to our wildlife, and ultimately our food and water supply...

http://dpw.lacounty.gov/prg/pressroo...newstype=media
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There are lot of idiots that throw cigs out the window . I wish they would all get caught and given the maximum fine. Don't get me started on the cell phones.
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Two months ago I actually put out two grass fires in one week that appeared to be started from cigarette butts....
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People who litter discust me.. I hope the fine is the max.
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I used to throw them out the window. Then I almost coughed a lung out the window. Now I have a 10 inch scar in my side from cancer. Been cancer free for 12 years
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She would have a better chance winning the lottery than starting a fire by throwing a cig out the window. Yea, they can and do start a few fires a year but, more people win the lottery!
depends on where you are at. we have several each summer on all the heavily traveled two lane back roads and highways up here when the grass dries out. Its illegal to even ash out the window in Roseville. I keep an empty can in my truck(my ashtray is my coin tray), or I toss them in my bed and sweep em out later(I rarely travel on the interstate so they stay in the bed).
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I ride a motorcycle, so I may have the opposite view of many on here. I've been hit in the face with lit cigarette butts and it is no fun.

If it's good enough to stick in your mouth, it's good enough to hang around in your car with you for awhile.

Please don't throw your butts out the window.
Echoing this for emphasis. Those of us who ride tend to get angry when people throw things out the window. If it actually hits someone it's a safety issue for the rider and the litterbug.
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Personally, I'm not a fan when someone's unextinguished butt comes in through my window and showers me with embers.

It's really hard to enjoy my own cig while small bits of flesh are being seared.
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There are lot of idiots that throw cigs out the window . I wish they would all get caught and given the maximum fine. Don't get me started on the cell phones.
Why cell phone use is just a ticket and not points agaisnt your record is beyond me. Its just as dangerous or worse as drunk driving and it gets a free pass. Texting is even more dangerous as you can't text and watch the road.

Throwing cigarettes out the window in SoCal deserves a fine of at least $1,000.00..its a tinder box out there.

That said, I hope she gets some slack as it was her birthday and I bet she learned her lesson.
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I agree with all of you. I blew a gasket when she told me. The crappy thing here is she ain't paying for it, I am. I'm the only income in the house. If she worked had money, I would want her to pay the Max, that's one of my pet peeves. I know the first offense has a mandatory 8hrs of community service. U guys think she can do more hrs of picking up trash instead of a fine. Because I don't want to get pentilized for her screw up.
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I remember as a kid going to traffic school that only clear water and chicken feathers may be discharged from a vehicle. I'm guessing that hasn't changed.
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And THAT is just one reason why smokers are disliked.
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I bet she won't do that again!
Smokers toss cigarette butts on the streets and sidewalks because they do not care and they're so used to doing it (and resent anybody telling them otherwise).

And I bet she will continue tossing her cigarette butts out of the car. She'll just look around for cops before doing so.
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I remember as a kid going to traffic school that only clear water and chicken feathers may be discharged from a vehicle. I'm guessing that hasn't changed.
I'm guessing hay feed must have been added. Those trucks are also a pain in the butt to follow in a 2 wheeler.
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Litterbug. Wonder what else she throws out when she's not caught
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