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Old 09-07-2012, 12:38 PM
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Question new hunting law? a rifle in the truck has to be in case??

I was told yesterday (from a buddy) that there was a new law passed about guns in the car when hunting. Something along the lines that it has to be in a case.
I know last year when driving from camp and to camp we would have our guns next to us (unloaded of course).
I have looked at this yearís regís and canít find anything about it?
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:59 PM
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my understanding is that every time you get in your car, your long gun has to be unloaded, cased, and ammo in a separate container, even if you're just driving down the road to a different hunting spot.
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Can't shoot an animal from a moving vehicle unless you were hunting whales.

This is similar to that thread about carrying a handgun on an ATV. It has to do with the road that you are on. If it is a county-maintained road, then it has to be unloaded.
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Can't shoot an animal from a moving vehicle unless you were hunting whales.

This is similar to that thread about carrying a handgun on an ATV. It has to do with the road that you are on. If it is a county-maintained road, then it has to be unloaded.
I know you can't shoot from a vehicle you also have to be off the road (and can't shoot across a road, my question was that he said it has to be unloaded (including the mag) and in a case.

Last year unloaded when hunting meant no round in the chamber and you could have the gun in your lap.
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I know you can't shoot from a vehicle you also have to be off the road (and can't shoot across a road, my question was that he said it has to be unloaded (including the mag) and in a case.

Last year unloaded when hunting meant no round in the chamber and you could have the gun in your lap.
Your title does say "hunting with a rifle in the truck??".

Even so, nothing has changed last year to this year. A loaded weapon means a cartridge in the chamber. If there is no cartridge in the chamber, it is unloaded. You can have the rifle in your lap. I just wouldn't have it there when you're on a major highway, even though it's not illegal to do so.
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my understanding is that every time you get in your car, your long gun has to be unloaded, cased, and ammo in a separate container, even if you're just driving down the road to a different hunting spot.
You understand wrong on a couple counts.

Long guns do not have to be cased or locked nor does the ammo need to be in a separate container whether you're talking long guns or handguns.
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Your title does say "hunting with a rifle in the truck??".

Even so, nothing has changed last year to this year. A loaded weapon means a cartridge in the chamber. If there is no cartridge in the chamber, it is unloaded. You can have the rifle in your lap. I just wouldn't have it there when you're on a major highway, even though it's not illegal to do so.
OK thanks, I hate these "I heard that...." but he said it was a game warden that told him.

I will change the title a little.
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You must have missed this thread from last week
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=615818
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"How to Own A Gun And Stay Out Of Jail."

I keep one in the glove box and one in the house for reference. Book covers CCW, storage while traveling and much more and it's written so the average Joe can understand all that lawyer gobbledygoop. These books make great gifts to gun owners. Other state editions too.

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yes I did miss it thanks for the link DD!
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I posted this in another thread, I think this is what you're friend is refering to:

California AB1527 is the bill that Assemblyman Anthony Portantino, D-La Canada Flintridge came up with to counter the Open Carry folks that went to shotgun and rifle open carry after the concealable firearms law was passed. That law banned the open carry of concealable firearms. Now this is what they got us. I think some of them are anti gunners that kept pushing buttons to get the long gun open carry banned too.

AB1527 passed the assembly but I think the exception for hunters in California PC Section 10227 (e) still applies or there's another execption that is incorporated into
AB1527; we need to find the amended bill (AB1527) that passed.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-...n-carry-rifles
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Sub Quote from 12027 (g);
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(g) Licensed hunters or fishermen carrying pistols, revolvers, or other firearms capable of being concealed upon the person while engaged in hunting or fishing, or transporting those firearms unloaded when going to or returning from the hunting or fishing expedition.
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Does the hunting/fishing allowance trump GFSZ?
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They say no because that is a Federal Law too, carry in the trunk when in a GFSZ or avoid them.

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Next time a buddy, Warden or Cop tells you that your "long gun" needs to be locked in a case etc.... politely ask him, "sir what's the penal code or vehicle code section for that specific law, because I want to be 100% compliant?"

He/she won't have a clue.
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Your title does say "hunting with a rifle in the truck??".

Even so, nothing has changed last year to this year. A loaded weapon means a cartridge in the chamber. If there is no cartridge in the chamber, it is unloaded. You can have the rifle in your lap. I just wouldn't have it there when you're on a major highway, even though it's not illegal to do so.

Just to clarify, this applies while one is hunting, only. Otherwise the it is considered loaded when rounds are in or attached to the rifle in any way.
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Has Brown signed it yet? Also, I believe it is only in incorporated areas.
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Even LEO's perpetuate FUD. On wild justice last year a warden said a handgun was loaded bc rounds were in a detached legal mag. He was either wrong or lying to try to get the suspect to cop to illegal activity.
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Just to clarify, this applies while one is hunting, only. Otherwise the it is considered loaded when rounds are in or attached to the rifle in any way.
Also incorrect. People v. Clark (http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/Peo...ark-(1996).pdf) clarified that in order to be "loaded" the shell or cartridge has to be in a position where it can be fired, such as the chamber or magazine. Rounds in a holder such as a side saddle or storage compartment do not count as loaded.

I know this was incorrectly taught at my Hunters Safety class. I tried to talk to the instructor but he didn't care to change his teachings.
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It seems like there are new gun laws every day and I was wondering whats the point? Are these laws suppose to make owning guns better or safer for us? Or does it make it easier for us to un knowingly break a law and get fined or eventually loose our guns? Just thinking, do they not have something better to do like fix our country.
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It seems like there are new gun laws every day and I was wondering whats the point? Are these laws suppose to make owning guns better or safer for us? Or does it make it easier for us to un knowingly break a law and get fined or eventually loose our guns? Just thinking, do they not have something better to do like fix our country.
Plain and simple, they want to disarm the nation. It will never happen so don't worry!.............oh man I can see the it coming now.
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Also incorrect. People v. Clark (http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/Peo...ark-(1996).pdf) clarified that in order to be "loaded" the shell or cartridge has to be in a position where it can be fired, such as the chamber or magazine. Rounds in a holder such as a side saddle or storage compartment do not count as loaded.

I know this was incorrectly taught at my Hunters Safety class. I tried to talk to the instructor but he didn't care to change his teachings.
Thank you for clarifying that... So much FUD out there it's unbelievable.

I've been stopped by DFG, on a dirt road with my shotgun next to me in the front seat, unloaded, though I had shells in my vest. He looked at the gun, ask me if it was unloaded, checked my lic and off he went....
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