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Old 08-20-2012, 4:30 PM
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Stack-On Gun Safes - You get what you pay for

About 2 years ago I started a search for a budget friendly gun safe. I didn't have $500+, but needed to secure my guns at home so they weren't just laying around. I ended up getting a '10 Gun' safe from Stack-On for $249 (on sale from $299)

Rather than go on a huge rant, here's why I will not buy another on of these:
  • These safes are made in China
  • In less than two years, a weld on one of the hinges broke loose
  • Customer Service accused me of hanging on the door, or putting too much weight on it (a Glock mind you)
  • Customer Service 'missed' my email for over a week when I sent in what they requested
  • They shipped me a 'comparable' model, which I then discovered was 29% smaller than the original
  • They refused to send me a safe that had similar internal dimensions to the original
  • The replacement safe no longer had a tray on the door like the original
  • I demanded a door tray to install myself, which they sent me a broken one (box had no damage), that was too large to install fit the door
  • They agreed to send me a check for $75 as compensation for the new safe being smaller... however, that doesn't help me fit all of my stuff back in it

So there you go... stick with a local US made company that cares about their product and your business.
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i suggest you recontact the company, and go up their food chain with the issue of proper product replacement. document names/dates of people you speak with, and take notes as you work through the hierarchy of the company.
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I read a news article about STACK ON safe flaws opened by 3 year old. The news interviewed Stack on and they didn't care and continue to manufacture those safe. They have many bad rep but they sell them so cheap they don't care. So I'm not surprise they don't care about their customer service
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I keep a thorough log any time I deal with this sort of stuff... But at some point it becomes too much of a hassle. I'm not there yet. Can't wait to call tomorrow.

I other news, the door tray they sent me is 3 inches too wide. The customer service gal must have gone off the external dimensions when she "double checked" that it would fit. *facepalm*
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You said it in your first post...you get what you pay for. Don't expect Fort Knox service on a Stack-On.
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I have a stack on gun cabinet to store my ammo. I swear you can open it with a screw driver or maybe take a can opener to the sides. I wobbles even when secured to the ground and wall.... I did get it for less than 100 and as of now only keep the 12 gage and 22lr ammo in it. the more expensive ammo is in my gun safe.
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There seems to be a huge difference between what Stack-On calls a Safe and a Gun Cabinet. I have one of their cabinets and it's just that, a locking cabinet. Not much in the way of real security but keeps curious little ones out. That's all I can expect for $119.
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There seems to be a huge difference between what Stack-On calls a Safe and a Gun Cabinet. I have one of their cabinets and it's just that, a locking cabinet. Not much in the way of real security but keeps curious little ones out. That's all I can expect for $119.
I agree, I have the same "Gun/Rifle cabinet" and it works great for what it is.
It is in no way a safe.

I purchased the 14 Gun version and it fits 4 long guns perfectly on one side and ammo next to it stacked (x3 .30 cal cans and x3 .50 cal cans)
I also drilled some holes and installed 3 shelves (1 long shelf along the top, x2 shelves half the size mounted on the side)
Holds all my gear and ammo fine.
When I am more stable and able to afford a real gun safe I will.

I have had mine for almost a year and so far, no damage (other then a few holes i made drilling)

I hope mine lasts awhile!
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I gave them additional grief for double checking the replacement shelf, and it still being the wrong size. [pic below for fun]

The csr lastly offered me either a full refund and they pic up the replacement safe, or a $100 refund.

I took the $100, totaling $175 in refund cash from them.
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I have a 10 gun stack on safe hope it last me long... Now I'm worried. I should of paid attention where it was made I had no clue
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I gave them additional grief for double checking the replacement shelf, and it still being the wrong size. [pic below for fun]

The csr lastly offered me either a full refund and they pic up the replacement safe, or a $100 refund.

I took the $100, totaling $175 in refund cash from them.
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despite the hassle involved at your end, it seems the deal has worked out for you. great job at asserting yourself in a frustrating situation.

thanks for update.
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You could build a more secure container for your guns/ammo with 2x4's and nails.
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I have a similar looking Stack On, but i think mine is the 12gun model. Can you post a picture of the broken weld?
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Can you post a picture of the broken weld?
I honestly was never able to get a decent photo of it... i tried to crawl as far in the safe as I could to snap pics but the outcome was worthless.
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I have an old stack on. I use it to store ammo. I keep my guns in real safe.

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Dear gun friend. Thank you for posting the tips. I am looking for some advice on safes. I was told that a jewelry safe is more secure than a gun safe. Do you have any insight on this? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you!
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You bought a gun cabinet not a gun safe. Stack-on doesn't make safes.

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You bought a gun cabinet not a gun safe. Stack-on doesn't make safes.
JDay beat me to it.
Big difference between a "gun cabinet" and a "gun safe".
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I have the 8 gun cabinet from stack- on bought at walmart about 8 years ago. For what it is it works great and I have no complaints. The door was installed upside down at the factory though. lol
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I read a news article about STACK ON safe flaws opened by 3 year old. The news interviewed Stack on and they didn't care and continue to manufacture those safe. They have many bad rep but they sell them so cheap they don't care. So I'm not surprise they don't care about their customer service
Those were lock boxes not true safes that had the problem. My Stack-On safe is much larger (weighing 450lbs) and I'm confident that even a 30 year old person would have a difficult time getting my safe open.
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You bought a gun cabinet not a gun safe. Stack-on doesn't make safes.

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Stack-on makes all sorts of safes

http://www.stack-on.com/categories/secure-storage
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Sorry to hear about the OP's troubles. I have a Stack-On locking cabinet and a smallish safe ($300 Black Friday Special) and they both work fine. They are not used to keep valuable stuff, just for overflow but they work as designed.
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I got the stack on 8 gun security cabinet, it works great for me. I am moving a lot, didnt want something too large/heavy.
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To the OP, that is what you get for being cheap so quit whinnying!
In order for a safe to be called a Gun Safe it will have to be made in the USA which will cost you at least a minimum of $1200 and up!
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The stack on "safe" isn't an actual safe and you should have known that when you purchased it. Don't blame stack on because your being cheap. Stack ons are good for keeping children away from firearms and that's about it. Anyone who's actually seen one knows this sooo stop being a cheap skate and spend money on a real safe. Costco has a couple of decent ones for a fairly reasonable price go to the website and check em out.

Here's on for a single long gun and pistols $479


http://www.costco.com/Sentry%c2%aeSa....11755536.html

and one a little better for $360


http://www.knobsandhardware.com/safe...=1613&cse=1613
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An additional use for a cheap Stack-On safe:

I have one firearm & ammo in a Stack-On in an alternate location within the residence. It is in sort of a secondary or fall-back position. Lot s of people have massive arsenals in their big safe but what if you get cut off from it?

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The stack on "safe" isn't an actual safe and you should have known that when you purchased it. Don't blame stack on because your being cheap. Stack ons are good for keeping children away from firearms and that's about it. Anyone who's actually seen one knows this sooo stop being a cheap skate and spend money on a real safe. Costco has a couple of decent ones for a fairly reasonable price go to the website and check em out.

Here's on for a single long gun and pistols $479


http://www.costco.com/Sentry%c2%aeSa....11755536.html

and one a little better for $360


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HAHAHA! Both of those safes you mention weigh less than 120 pounds and the Paragon only has 19 gauge steel. I could either carry that away by myself or punch though it with a screwdriver. My Stack-on weighs 450 pounds with 14 gauge steel - if you are going to diss something you could at least recommend something more substantial
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I have a Stack-On.. but I only use it for ammo storage.. to flimsy for firearms.
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I read in the long term gun storage thread that you should not store guns and ammo together because the offgas from the gun powder can harm the metal in the guns. I think it was in this link http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=681050
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I have a couple of stack on gun cabinets and they have been really good but they are very lightweight and great for keeping the kids out but definitely not build to withstand a determined effort nor are they fire rated.

They are good for storing ammo in. I added shelves to mine and it has been awesome. A real convenience for $100 or whatever it cost me.

But even amongst reputable safes, there are good and bad. And salesmen sell them.....
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck OP.

My 10-gun stack-on cabinet wifey bought me years back gets used on a daily basis and no broken parts yet. I figure I can break into any gun safe I've ever seen (given enough time), so I just make my cheap safe inaccessible to most burglars .

It's seems mine is the only one that doesn't it have bad hinges. I may have gotten lucky.
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Sorry to hear about your bad luck OP.

My 10-gun stack-on cabinet wifey bought me years back gets used on a daily basis and no broken parts yet. I figure I can break into any gun safe I've ever seen (given enough time), so I just make my cheap safe inaccessible to most burglars .

It's seems mine is the only one that doesn't it have bad hinges. I may have gotten lucky.
It seems that people are using the term "safe" and "cabinet" interchangeably in this discussion. Just to be clear - a "cabinet" is pretty much just something similar to a school locker. A "safe" is far more substantial with thick steel walls and door used for securing valuable objects against theft or damage
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Wow, just logged in tonight to see that this old thread got resurrected somehow. Good times.

To be clear, the original post is regarding a Stack-On SAFE, not CABINET.

Also, thanks for the overload of douchey comments basically calling me a cheap ***. Look, I visit CalGuns for the positive, educational atmosphere. I didn't grow up under a rock, and I know that you get what you pay for. I was renting at the time of purchase, and needed something inexpensive and effective to protect my guns from the shady neighborhood kids who were breaking into homes. This was all happening while trying to buy my house in a better neighborhood, and had obvious financial commitments elsewhere.

What I was most irked about was that the 'equal replacement' they sent me was 30+% smaller than the original, and lacked similar features. So that's why I posted the 'heads up'. May reconsider next time.
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I just bought a "Stack-on" 14 rifle locking gun case on sale at Big 5 for $179.00. Cabelas sells the same model for $329.00. It was made in the USA, DOJ approved and although it isn't, and doesn't claim to be a fire proof or tamper proof gun safe it is exactly as advertised. Very well constructed and finished especially considering the price.
I wanted something I could easily move around myself and keep any kids from accessing. I think there is a false sense of security that comes with any safe. A cutting torch within a minute or two will open the most expensive steel safe ever made.
Many fairly expensive gun safes (e.g. Winchester) are tack welded, and easily broken in to with a chisel and hammer in less that 15 minutes. Unless you know what to look for this method of cheap construction is difficult to detect.
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I keep the mosin collection in a stack on, its a security cabinet. I ran out of space. The good stuff are in real safes... I like my stack on does its purpose well... protect inexpensive firearms
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PS walmart best pricing even shipped it was better than turners sale price.. was less than anyone else.
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The stack on "safe" isn't an actual safe and you should have known that when you purchased it. Don't blame stack on because your being cheap. Stack ons are good for keeping children away from firearms and that's about it. Anyone who's actually seen one knows this sooo stop being a cheap skate and spend money on a real safe. Costco has a couple of decent ones for a fairly reasonable price go to the website and check em out.

Here's on for a single long gun and pistols $479


http://www.costco.com/Sentry%c2%aeSa....11755536.html

and one a little better for $360


http://www.knobsandhardware.com/safe...=1613&cse=1613
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I got the stack on 8 gun security cabinet, it works great for me. I am moving a lot, didnt want something too large/heavy.
Just because a lot of you come across as douches....

http://www.stack-on.com/categories/total-defense-safes

Guess stack-on DOES make safes.
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I've had a 10gun for about 11 years now. All my cheap guns and 22's go in it. It's mainly there just to keep the kids away from the guns. It wouldn't take long to get into it with out a key. Cheap as hell yes. Serves a purpose yes
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Just because a lot of you come across as douches....

http://www.stack-on.com/categories/total-defense-safes

Guess stack-on DOES make safes.
Notice how they conveniently leave out the important details such as wall and door steel thickness? I would not trust a "safe" from a company that doesn't disclose that information.

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