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Old 08-06-2012, 8:19 PM
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Im considering purchasing a modern "California Legal" Colt 1911 Government size.

Theres several on the roster and these caught my eye:

01070XSE / Stainless Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP
01091 M1991A1 Ser 80 / Stainless Steel (matte) Pistol 5" .45 ACP
01980XSE / Carbon Steel (blue) Pistol 5" .45 ACP
01991 M1991A1 Ser 80 (Matte Blue) / Steel (matte blue) Pistol 5" .45 ACP


It looks like there is no way of getting a series 70 but I have read some good things about these current series 80.

Im torn between getting a basic model (m1991a1?) and sending it away to the custom shop to personalize or getting a 01070XSE Stainless and keep it stock.

Anyone have any experience with these?

Any recommendations on SoCal gun stores that can order one up?




Thanks in advance!!
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Old 08-06-2012, 8:58 PM
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It looks like there is no way of getting a series 70 but I have read some good things about these current series 80.
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Any recommendations on SoCal gun stores that can order one up?




Thanks in advance!!
Nothing wrong with the on-list colts you mentioned, but if you want a series 70 I am pretty sure EBR works (among others) can get you any colt you’re looking for.

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Old 08-06-2012, 9:01 PM
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I have the O1991. Got it November last year. A very nice high quality, reliable 1911. It does rattle some, as its not crazy tight, but it'll eat any type of ammo I load it up with. I had Alan Tanaka work on mine for some basic stuff. I had him put in a short trigger, trigger job set at 4 lbs, and then he fine tuned/polished certain parts/areas. I absolutely love it. I wanted a no frills classic looking blued 1911 and there's no other model that fits that bill more perfectly. Except maybe a Series 70 lol.

As to witch model to get, thats all personal preference. The XSE will be cheaper in the long run if you plan on keeping it stock vs sending the 1991 away. The XSE isn't too much more than the 1991s. Me personally, I don't care for front cocking serations and I think a tastefully modded 1991 or series 70 looks great. It'll have some modern goodies but still retain some of those classic 1911 lines, like no fcs, vertical rear slide serations etc. That's what makes 1911s great, soo many styles and options to suit everyone
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Old 08-06-2012, 9:34 PM
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Thomas-

Yeah I am leaning toward simple classic. A real nice blue. Nice wood grips. No FCS. No tactical.

I think I will look into the blue 1991 you mentioned. I like the idea with "growing" into a basic model and change what suits me as necessary.


Right now I have a Springfield TRP Operator full rail. A very accurate gun (love the 70 series style trigger!!) thats fun to shoot and looks cool but it comes complete and I had no input on its build. As im looking for something new and different (and a blue stock 1991 fits that bill), I will be selling the Springfield for the Colt.

If you dont mind me asking where did you get your 1991? Your not too far from me.

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Any of those listed would be fine choice.
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I got mine from Turner's. I actually got it at the Turner's in San Diego during a grand reopening sale. They only had a limited stock and they had them for $699 during their first week open. Deal of my life so far lol, got it on my 21st birthday. I'm not sure what the regular price is on them at Turner's but they always seem to have them in stock.
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I am actually in the same boat as you. I am thinking about buying a Stainless 1991 and doing some custom work myself of it or just buying a XSE in blue. The XSE is much more cost effective but there is nothing like working on a 1911 yourself and having a unique pistol, especially a Colt.

Good luck in your choice.
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I am actually in the same boat as you. I am thinking about buying a Stainless 1991 and doing some custom work myself of it or just buying a XSE in blue. The XSE is much more cost effective but there is nothing like working on a 1911 yourself and having a unique pistol, especially a Colt.

Good luck in your choice.
Yeah the XSE is nice. I think the railed version won the USMC contract for 4000 units.

It does seem "loaded" with extras though (FCS, etc). I think a more basic blue 1991 that I customize after a few thousand rounds would fit my bill better and be a fun project!
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:41 PM
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Yeah the XSE is nice. I think the railed version won the USMC contract for 4000 units.

It does seem "loaded" with extras though (FCS, etc). I think a more basic blue 1991 that I customize after a few thousand rounds would fit my bill better and be a fun project!
That sounds like a great idea. A personalized pistol is one that keeps its value to the shooter. It is also one that someone wouldn't mind passing down to their kids one day. Think of it as a really cool and useable family heirloom.

NTM, a great learning experience.
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That sounds like a great idea. A personalized pistol is one that keeps its value to the shooter. It is also one that someone wouldn't mind passing down to their kids one day. Think of it as a really cool and useable family heirloom.

NTM, a great learning experience.

I found a couple of Colt 1991 GI blued models at a local Turners for $989. A generous price for a basic model but it is what it is.

I tried shopping around but some other shops say its "impossible" to get a current Colt 1911 in California. I heard that Colt only sells to UAW shops like Turners?

Anyway, next step is selling my TRP full rail to fund my new Colt project. That should cover the new Colt and any Colt Custom Shop mods I need!
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Shoot a PM to BJT72 over on the 1911forum.com and he can answer any custom shop questions you might have since he works there.
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Love my XSE!
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A customized 1911 with the rear vertical serration which gives it the old school look is just Classic! Too many 1911s now have slanted serrations, then to make it worst add FCS !
I tried to custom a Les Baer, they said best they can do is no front cocking serrations, but the rear serration is only available slanted. NO Vertical . I thought they build custom guns. But to their credit their guns are a bargain for what you get.
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Old 08-07-2012, 3:33 PM
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A customized 1911 with the rear vertical serration which gives it the old school look is just Classic! Too many 1911s now have slanted serrations, then to make it worst add FCS !
I tried to custom a Les Baer, they said best they can do is no front cocking serrations, but the rear serration is only available slanted. NO Vertical . I thought they build custom guns. But to their credit their guns are a bargain for what you get.
I feel the same way, there is something beautiful about a "vintage" custom look to a 1911.

This is my favorite production 1911 on the market, wish I had the $2200+ to buy one right now.


http://www.coltsmfg.com/Catalog/Colt...overnment.aspx
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:27 AM
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I feel the same way, there is something beautiful about a "vintage" custom look to a 1911.

This is my favorite production 1911 on the market, wish I had the $2200+ to buy one right now.


http://www.coltsmfg.com/Catalog/Colt...overnment.aspx
Sweet!

I came across this on 1911forum. The guy posting it bought it recently off the calguns sales forum. Series 70!

This is the style I am going after:

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Old 08-08-2012, 3:12 PM
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PRK in Visalia has a 01970RG is stock right now...good looking Colt IMO.

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Sweet!

I came across this on 1911forum. The guy posting it bought it recently off the calguns sales forum. Series 70!

This is the style I am going after:

Ya those are pretty common I think. I just walked out of a smaller shop (guns direct burbank) and they had one in stock there, or at least it was very similar G.I. type just like that. I'm pretty sure it was that exact one tho.
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Sweet!

I came across this on 1911forum. The guy posting it bought it recently off the calguns sales forum. Series 70!

This is the style I am going after:

That is beautiful. I want that exact gun but in 9mm and with an arched MSH.
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That is beautiful. I want that exact gun but in 9mm and with an arched MSH.
Here you go...it needs some TLC but looks like a great project.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=299993748

Plus you need to get the seller to ship to CA...
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Nothing wrong with the on-list colts you mentioned, but if you want a series 70 I am pretty sure EBR works (among others) can get you any colt you’re looking for.

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+1 EBR has been great to work with and can get you, or perform SSE services, on an off-roster Colt 1911. I got my Wiley Clapp Commander through EBR, and love the piece. I have a blued XSE and that's a nice piece also. I preferred the XSE since it was fitted with most parts I wanted, and I wanted the Novak dovetail in the slide.
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