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Old 02-10-2014, 7:42 PM
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So I shoot about 3-400 rounds a month out of my ar I have about 40lbs of brass. Should I stop buying brass and concentrate on projectiles as I stocked up on Tula primers (which shoot very well) and I am buying a pound of powder a week. How long should this brass last me?
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Old 02-10-2014, 7:48 PM
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Well you have about 3000 cases at 7-10 firings each is 21k-30k.

You will need about 75 pounds of powder.
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Old 02-10-2014, 7:49 PM
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40lbs = approx 3,000 pieces.
Reload each piece 5 times (conservative) = 15,000 rounds
15,000 rounds divided by 400 rounds per month = 37.5 months.

You easily have over 3 years worth of brass. Which won't do you any good if you don't have the projectiles to fire out of them.
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Well I have a couple thousand projectiles but I know I need more, so I think I will stop buying brass. Well I don't really buy it. I mostly pick it up at the range that others leave behind. Thanks for the advise.
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Old 02-10-2014, 8:34 PM
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Widener's is doing the 5000 52grain .224 for $470 shipping included thang again...
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Sound like all you need is bullets and you will be GTG for quite a while. You might want to save up your money and buy an 8 lb jug instead of 8 one pounders. It will be a little cheaper in the long run and you use the savings for bullets.
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well I have been getting it for 27 a pound average depending what I get.
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well I have been getting it for 27 a pound average depending what I get.
Some people up here buy an 8 pound jug for $169.99 + tax. You do the math, but that saves quite a bit if you want 75 pounds. Order it through powder valley if you want to safve some real money, just be prepared to wait for your order.
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At $27 a pound you really aren't beating Wolf pricing. I would almost go back at that price.
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Brass is the least of my concerns... point being you can reload it. It just come down to how much do you want to load at one time...

If you want to play the bulk game play the bulk game... Just figure out what your primary load(s) are and go to town... its the only way to really save money, plus its convenient.

2k projectiles is a start... I really like those 6000 pack of Hornady bullets, along with 5000 pack of bulk 75s from wideners.

Same with powder... just make sure you like the load before committing to a large order.
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Should I stop buying brass...?
you should have never started! 223 brass is literally top 3 easiest casings to come across at ranges.
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An earlier poster calculated that you have 3 years worth of brass. That is perfect. You need to figure on a years worth for shooting and having 2 years worth in reserve will allow you to wait out any supply storms like the one that is slowly starting to ease up now. Just make sure you build up stocks on the rest if your components to match your brass. I had plenty of stock before the current supply storm, so I never had to purchase any components at the ridiculous "panic buy" pricing. If you slowly build up 3 years of stock, then you should be fine for the next storm
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yeah I think I will be picking up some more extreme projectiles
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When I was still actively competing in High Power XTC, I would keep about 700-1000 rounds of short line 200/300yard ammo (77gr mag length) and maybe 100 rounds of long line 600 yard (80gr VLD) loaded and ready to go.

Note that the reason I didn't have much long line ammo loaded and ready to go is because I shot VLD so I like to load about .005" into the lands, so I'm chasing the lands during the life of the barrel.

My practice ammo I would keep around 300-500 rounds. Note that I would only shoot about 50-70 rounds per practice session.

Outside of the loaded ammo, I would have about 3000 cases in rotation (e.g. dirty and not sized, clean but no processed, sized and primed, etc).
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Brass is the least of my concerns... point being you can reload it. It just come down to how much do you want to load at one time...

If you want to play the bulk game play the bulk game... Just figure out what your primary load(s) are and go to town... its the only way to really save money, plus its convenient.

2k projectiles is a start... I really like those 6000 pack of Hornady bullets, along with 5000 pack of bulk 75s from wideners.

Same with powder... just make sure you like the load before committing to a large order.
Tell me about these bulk bullets?!
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well the bulk bullets are actually 55gr FMJBT for like 525 shipped or something like that
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stash 5000 for reserve and shoot as u go
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I will definitely keep picking up after others so it should grow to that size rather quickly.
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I pick up brass that the other shooters leave behind.

I like the hornady 55 fmjbt/c bulk boxes from wideners, h 335 powder in 8 lbs jugs, and wolf 223 or cci primers. My load is 2950 fps from an 18" AR 15. I shoot in 3 gun competitions and it seems like the ammo is at least as good as I am, if not better.
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maybe you should consider getting the bench source annealer so u don't need to hold that much brass. If you anneal your brass it should reload indefinitely. Just trim and prep your cases. I would store no more then 1000 pieces.
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maybe you should consider getting the bench source annealer so u don't need to hold that much brass. If you anneal your brass it should reload indefinitely. Just trim and prep your cases. I would store no more then 1000 pieces.
I wouldn’t even bother annealing .223 cases, they are so easy to come by I rather recycle them at end of life and just start on a new batch. If you run exotic or expensive stuff like Lapua brass, then I can see going through the trouble.

Plus reading about how some people on this forum size their cases, they might just run into case head separation before the necks give out... so indefinitely is a bit optimistic unless you really know what ur doing.
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I always anneal military stuff initially just to get it through my dies.
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Xtreme has 55gr j-words for 45.99 per 500- Do the math and it is $460-5k delivered...
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Yeah that's were I've been buying them from
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