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Old 02-27-2013, 10:36 AM
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I almost, ALMOST bought one yesterday. BUT they didn't have anything but the floor model to see on house and no one could get over to the storage or wherever to pick one up. I was 90 miles from home, so it was a no go to drive back today and then again in 10 for p/u. I was very impressed at the larger size frame. It really is almost the same as the "big brothers" My heart is still set on the M&P shield in .40 caliber though.(as a carry/self protection gun) I'd like to get a chance to fire one of these though out of curiosity. It appeals to me because it's still affordable to put a few hundred rounds through at any time instead of costing an arm and a leg!
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GomezFamilyMan, I like the Pachmayr grips, Its a little annoying that they move slightly but makes it feel really comfy in the hand. So give and take. I got it really cheap on Amazon so can't complain its not a bad buy. I hear a lil silicone will make it stay but I like to remove it when I clean the gun and don't want to hassle with reapplying silicone every time. So if you are not as lazy as me this could be awesome. These are technically made for the 9mm / 40 so it might be a that it fits slightly bigger on the .22LR...
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Old 02-28-2013, 8:11 AM
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I am so weak. Yesterday, I went to my local gun shop to start a transfer DROS on an out of state rifle I just bought, and saw one of these little bad boys sitting in the almost empty display case along with some obscure revolvers. I've been thinking about getting a 22 semi for a while and was leaning towards the Ruger SR22. But I pulled the trigger on this and put it in jail. This morning, I just got off the phone with S&W to place an order for 3 more mags. Maybe I'll receive them this year, LOL.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:45 AM
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I was able to go to a rental gun range and shoot 100 rounds of mini mags with each of the M&P 22, SR22 and the GSG 1911 22, out of the three I shot . I liked the GSG 1911the best, the weight and size of the gun just felt right. I am glad I had a chance to shoot all three that I had been debating about. I had a mind set before I shot them that I wanted to buy the M&P 22 but I have changed my mind and will buying the GSG 1911 22.
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Never got a chance to post pictures of mine, so here they are. Got this M&P 22 back in October of 2012; waited close to two months from the pre-order through Turner's.

P.S. You guys should try CCI Stingers over the Mini Mags and Blazers. They cost a a tad bit more, but you won't regret it.





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P.S. You guys should try CCI Stingers over the Mini Mags and Blazers. They cost a a tad bit more, but you won't regret it.
Stingers are not worth the extra price. There are no performance gains using hyper velocity round. Most folks will agree that you should shoot the cheapest .22LR ammo you can find and that will cycle your pistol. If your pistol cycles fine with high velocity rounds (i.e. Minimags), then you're simply wasting money buying Stingers.
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Stingers are not worth the extra price. There are no performance gains using hyper velocity round. Most folks will agree that you should shoot the cheapest .22LR ammo you can find and that will cycle your pistol. If your pistol cycles fine with high velocity rounds (i.e. Minimags), then you're simply wasting money buying Stingers.
I agree. And I do usually shoot the cheaper .22LR (Federal bulk, Winchester, Remington, CCI Blazer, American Eagle, etc.), but the Stingers are a lot of fun to shoot every now and then. Makes your .22LR feel like a 9 at times.
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I just picked up mine last Wednesday from a 10 day wait, I tested it today and I am very happy and satisfied with it. I used a variety of ammo from cci mini mags hp, velocitor, federal bulk, cci blazer. All in all I shot 500 rounds and 5 FTf only from cci blazer ammo. The rest is all good.
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Never got a chance to post pictures of mine, so here they are. Got this M&P 22 back in October of 2012; waited close to two months from the pre-order through Turner's.

P.S. You guys should try CCI Stingers over the Mini Mags and Blazers. They cost a a tad bit more, but you won't regret it.




What kind of grips do you have on there? Do you like their performance?
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I got two questions before a purchase...

Sights: Are the center fire sights compatible with the MP22?

Magazines: where can I find them?
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What kind of grips do you have on there? Do you like their performance?
Yup, love them. Just apply a little heat afterwards, otherwise, easy to install.

They're the X-Treme laser cut grips from Powder River Precision:
http://shop.powderriverprecision.net...?categoryId=13
9mm/40 Cal, Full Size.
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Yup, love them. Just apply a little heat afterwards, otherwise, easy to install.

They're the X-Treme laser cut grips from Powder River Precision:
http://shop.powderriverprecision.net...?categoryId=13
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Thanks for the info! They look great!
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Thanks . Mine are the rubber textured ones btw.
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Old 03-06-2013, 7:42 PM
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Just picked up my M&P22 today...man, that thing was just soaking in factory grease - gave it a thorough cleaning. Barrel was pretty dirty - weird considering its brand new from factory (I mean, the test shots couldn't have been that dirty??)

Can't wait to shoot it!!! Now if I could only find some mags!!!
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Old 03-06-2013, 7:58 PM
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I just picked up mine from jail. Waiting on my amazon order of ballistol before I go shoot it.
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I got two questions before a purchase...

Sights: Are the center fire sights compatible with the MP22?

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The rear sights of a center fire M&P will fit the 22 and the front will not.
The mags are very hard to find right now.
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Old 03-07-2013, 8:23 PM
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If you decide to swap sights from a centerfire pistol, keep in mind that the centerfire sights are steel and the 22 slide is aluminum, softer than steel.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:00 PM
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I got two questions before a purchase...

Sights: Are the center fire sights compatible with the MP22?

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I hear that you can install both but may have to file them down a tad bit. I purchased the Meprolight sights Part# ML11766 and my gunsmith got them in and zero'd without filing and without any issue. They were pretty cheap. It was a toss up for me between Night Sights and the truglo fiber optic sights. The ability to shoot zombies in zero light per my lawyers suggestion won but the truglo's were only $52.99 on Amazon I was so tempted and they are still on my wish list in case I get one for my girl. The Meprolights were only $82.00 on ebay. Magazines are no where to be found. Still waiting on mine from S&W, They are the cheapest for the Mags on back order so I would call and order some. But look at the bright side, at least 22LR is easy and fast to load.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:11 PM
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Default S&W M&P 22 Recoil Spring

I've put a few thousand rounds on her and don't need them just yet but does anyone know where to get some or better yet, maybe some after market ones? Or maybe if you know the size and how many pounds are on the OEM one so maybe we can get one that fits from another pistol so we can play around with the weight slightly. Suggestions? Ideas? Comments?
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Old 03-13-2013, 8:18 AM
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I've put a few thousand rounds on her and don't need them just yet but does anyone know where to get some or better yet, maybe some after market ones? Or maybe if you know the size and how many pounds are on the OEM one so maybe we can get one that fits from another pistol so we can play around with the weight slightly. Suggestions? Ideas? Comments?
Why are you wanting to change out the recoil spring??
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Picked this up about 6 weeks ago. I put 300 CCI mini mags 36 gr HP's and 300blazers throught it with no problems, it ran flawless.
I picked up the Burris FastFire II and a Speed Shooters mount last week.

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Yes, nice setup.

I had a similar red dot on previous .22LR pistols, and it got boring after a while because it was too easy after a while...
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It took less than 10 minutes.
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Yes, nice setup.

I had a similar red dot on previous .22LR pistols, and it got boring after a while because it was too easy after a while...
Never gets boring shooting steel at our ranch.

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Why are you wanting to change out the recoil spring??
Not really looking to change it just yet but in the future once its taken enough of a beating but seeing what is out there. If anyone tried any aftermarket ones and were there any advantages? Just curious? Seen some for the 9MM and they have lots of options. So Just wondering?

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Not really looking to change it just yet but in the future once its taken enough of a beating but seeing what is out there. If anyone tried any aftermarket ones and were there any advantages? Just curious? Seen some for the 9MM and they have lots of options. So Just wondering?
The internals of the M&P22 is nothing like the internals of the standard M&P 9/40/45. So the recoil springs are not interchangeable.
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Gave up on calling S&W. Sent them an email re: my the issues with my M&P 22. They responded the next day. I filled out their return form. I had a Fedex label the next day. They asked for a description of the issues and any targets I used. Let see what happens. I'm hoping for the best.
Just got my M&P 22 back from S&W today. Work order states:
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2. Repaired rear sight.
3. Checked and Repaired feed. Tested with Hi Vel. Ammo.

Don't have any time until Sunday to see how it shoots now. Crossing my fingers
the good folks at S&W took care of business. Does look like the ramp got a quick buffing.
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Just picked up my M&P22 today...man, that thing was just soaking in factory grease - gave it a thorough cleaning. Barrel was pretty dirty - weird considering its brand new from factory (I mean, the test shots couldn't have been that dirty??)

Can't wait to shoot it!!! Now if I could only find some mags!!!
Just got mine back from S&W after some repairs. Came back dirtier than when I sent it. Nicely oiled, but dirty ! Ordered more mags directly from S&W. They are backordered, but rep said S&W was giving their customers' orders priority. They're also $32.00. Lowest price I've found.

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This gun is awesome! Picked it up and gave it a good cleaning. Two applications of frog lube.
Went to the range today and shot the red federal bulk pack. Shot almost flawlessly, 1 FTF. 550 rounds and only 1 FTF. I'm amazed.
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Anyone cleaned out the firing pin? I've ran about 2500 rounds through it and I noticed the firing pin was pretty gummed up but don't know if I should try to take it apart to clean or what. Has anyone done it and is there a youtube video or some detailed instructions on here. Did a search but couldn't find anything.
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EDIT: Sold out. MidwayUSA.com currently has 10 round M&P 22 magazines in stock. Limit 2. Search for product code 320012.

I just picked up 2 for $27 each.
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Ugh! I just missed the mags by a few minutes!!!
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When I rack the slide from the slide back position, it stove-pipes the first round. After the 2nd rack it starts to run OK. This issue repeats quite often. If I just press the slide lock lever down, it chambers just fine.

Does anyone else have this problem?
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Just love my M&P22, I've ran 5 or 6 hundred round threw it so far & it gets better every time I shoot it. I have shot almost every kind of ammo threw & today I shot some cci's velocitor but I'm not sure they were any better than some stuff I picked up from Big 5 called Fiocchi. Anyway I pick up my gsg1911 tomorrow & I'll see how that gun comparer's to my M&P.
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I've shot Fiocchi in my M&P 22 and it did well with those, as it's done well with EVERYTHING I've fired in it.

I've been thinking about the GSG 1911 for a couple of months now. Please let us know how your new gun compares with the M&P.
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When I rack the slide from the slide back position, it stove-pipes the first round. After the 2nd rack it starts to run OK. This issue repeats quite often. If I just press the slide lock lever down, it chambers just fine.

Does anyone else have this problem?
Are you "slamming" in the magazine before you rack the slide? Others have had stovepipe feed failures following this action. What happens is that the bullet nose on the top round flips up when the magazine stops abruptly as it's "rammed home". The solution is to insert the magazine less forcefully so as not to dislodge the top round.

Another possibility is that you are racking the slide too slowly and gently, causing a FTF as the round tries to feed into the chamber. Try pulling back on the slide firmly and releasing fully and abruptly as the slide reaches full rear battery, allowing the full force of the recoil spring to close the slide and chamber the round. It also helps to keep the gun clean and the rails well lubed.
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Are you "slamming" in the magazine before you rack the slide? Others have had stovepipe feed failures following this action. What happens is that the bullet nose on the top round flips up when the magazine stops abruptly as it's "rammed home". The solution is to insert the magazine less forcefully so as not to dislodge the top round.
Yes, that was it! Just tested it several times and noticed that if I slam the magazine the top round's nose moves up quite visibly. If I rack the slide in that position it stovepipes 100%. Thanks for the tip!

Hmmm, that's actually not good - MP22 can induce "training scars". An operator is supposed to insert the mags firmly, even slam them, because a) it guarantees successful feeding even on full mags with tight springs and b) that's how you operate under stress. All real combat pistols will handle it just fine.
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I've shot Fiocchi in my M&P 22 and it did well with those, as it's done well with EVERYTHING I've fired in it.

I've been thinking about the GSG 1911 for a couple of months now. Please let us know how your new gun compares with the M&P.
I have both the GSG 1911 and the M&P22. Overall both are fun to shoot. The GSG is a bit heavier (almost the same weight as a full size 1911). There is almost zero recoil. The M&P22 because it's lighter has a slight recoil. I put about 100 rounds of assorted ammo thru both of them and had zero issues with the GSG and had one stove pipe on the M&P22 but I think on that one I slammed the mag in too hard because the stove pipe was on the first round.

As for what ammo I used I don't recall. I had a ziplock back of misc .22lr ammo that I consolidated from open boxes of different types of ammo ranging from CCI, Federal, American Eagle, PMC and maybe a few others.

Overall I'm happy with both pistols. Both performed well had almost zero issues and I didn't even clean them before taking them to the range. I'm going to put a couple hundred more rounds thru both of them before I take it apart.
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