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Old 05-17-2012, 8:29 PM
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Default Federal .22lr ammo compariso: red 550 vs red 325 vs blue 525 box

I was looking for information online and didn't find any, so I went and bought all kinds and would like to share the specs of these federal ammo with others.

In comparison are all Federal .22lr ammos in different packaging.
We have 550 red box Walmart, 325 red box and 525 blue box.
It appears they're identical. Same weight, speed, same drop at 100 yards.
The only difference is the load number which I have no idea what it means.
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Old 05-18-2012, 1:34 AM
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Interesting. I haven't used Federal bulk ammo in a long time so I can't really weight in, but I look forward to seeing input from others.

Could be a lot like Winchester, they change their box colors and how they package their ammo, but it's basically all the same.
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Old 05-18-2012, 1:50 AM
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probably all the same, just different packaging for different market/vendor
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Old 05-18-2012, 2:46 AM
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The best I can tell is that the Load Number possibly refers to the powder being used or some other quality that's hard to examine with the naked eye. The stuff in the blue box ("Champion" load #745) cycles pretty well in my Marlin 795. I haven't had as many problems as I have had with the stuff in the 550 bulk #750 maroon box (lots of jams and FTEs for me). Never tried the stuff in the 325 case, though.
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Old 05-18-2012, 7:10 AM
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i have [3] 22s mossberg tactical 22, savage mark 2 and a savage 64. all good rifles. last time out i tried CCI to see if i could shoot better groups. MAJOR stove piping etc in both savages. so i tried my trusty bulk 525 pack WM federal. everything normal. before going home i tried the CCI and surer enough the problem came back. now i know CCI is very good ammo. but you just never know what your 22 is going to like and not like. for the price i will stick with the federal.
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Old 05-18-2012, 8:16 AM
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I don't shoot for tight groups, but as far as reliability goes, I've always had good luck with all of the Federal bulk pictured, that's through 5 different firearms and a CMMG conversion kit.
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I didn't see much difference in the blue or red bulk. Both worked fine for me on a Winchester Wildcat rifle. Same repeatable accuracy on both types, no fliers and pretty good accuracy.

New report - I did notice one of my CMMG upper, and 10/22 didn't like the accuracy, very large sporadic grouping. Blazer for 10/22 best, CCI SV was so-so, the CMMGs like the Winchester M-22s a lot, tight groups - It only works well in my Winchester.

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I've used the 550 Red and the 525 Blue. I have to say, after firing the 525 Blue I felt like the rounds were inconsistent. Some rounds sounded like they fired fine others sounded like they had half the powder (quieter). Since then I've stuck with the 550 Red and all has been well.
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now i know CCI is very good ammo. but you just never know what your 22 is going to like and not like. for the price i will stick with the federal.
Ain't that the truth. My decade old 10/22 *hated* the Federal blue box ammo-- out of 525 rounds, I was getting a FTE maybe 1 in 10 rounds, and a FTFire about 1 in 20. 425 rounds of CCI blazer, had a total of 4 rounds FTFire and no FTE. Both 40gr lead nose, roughly the same velocity, totally different results.
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I just bought a case from Dunns of Fed. Blue box. I've never had any issues with it, though I would give the slight edge to CCI Blazer. Cleaner brass and slightly more accurate ammo.
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you just never know what your 22 is going to like and not like.
yep, my 15-22 eats anything. Ive run every variety of Fed bulk with no issues, but I have better groups with CCI blazer.

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i think we are in 2 camps. some of us want match grade ammo and will pay for it. others want reliable plinking ammo. the bulk federal works great in my 3 22s.
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used federal in my 10/22 for a while. fussy ammo, jams and innacurate. got some win 22 ammo and it shot 1" groups at 20 yards compared to 2.5" groups with the federal ammo. i also noticed the quality of the brass on the win ammo is way better compared to federal
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I love the federal blue box. I grab it anytime it's on sale. All my .22s like it.
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you're missing the water box.
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I used them all in my 10/22 and to be honest, I do not see or feel a difference. Just different packaging IMHO.

I have been sticking with the Federal loads as I have yet to one FTF. I did pick up a couple of boxes of CCI recently on a good price but have not yet been to the range with them.
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Old 05-27-2012, 4:47 PM
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I've used Federal bulk packs for years, never had a FTE and never had a FTF in many thousands of rounds. The 36gr CCHPs are fine, and accurate enough for offhand shooting. I don't shoot groups, I usually shoot at moving targets and the Federal 525 is fine. I haven't seen a Federal 550 in years. Who sells them these days?

I want to try the Federal Champion 40gr solid noses because Remington sucks these days (didn't used to) and unless I have a mag loader, I don't like Blazer, get too much lead on my fingers.
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These federal ammo works just fine on my mk3 and Beretta Neos but not on the AA G23 conversion kit.
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