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Old 05-23-2012, 9:00 AM
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I'm not trying to crap on this GB by any means but my concern is the pricing they list on the website. One frame for $99.95 each, 20 for $3000.00 and 100 for $12,500.00? Doesn't seem to be an appropriate pricing schedule which leads me to wonder if they are legit.

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If you're going to use a dremel, use one of the acra mill plus's. I used one to turn a Garand receiver into a BM-59 receiver (there are some rails to cut). Pretty sure it's going to hold better precision than the router table...

Those who are worked up about the lack of precision in a dremel are thinking of the way most folks use dremels. Chuck it into an acra mill, use calipers, go slowly, and finish your cuts with a file. If YOU are willing to put in the time to do it right, then it can be right. If you're impatient, yes you're going to screw it up badly.

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to be fair, the description clearly states $99 now, and $99 at TOD.

but you are correct, the price listed is only $99, my best guess is it's a system thing, where the cart automatically adds the item price to the total, seeing how they want it to add $99, they might have no choice but to put $99 there. just a wild guess.
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On a side note, the design is reminding me of this - http://www.cncguns.com/projects/stiframe.html
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On a side note, the design is reminding me of this - http://www.cncguns.com/projects/stiframe.html
Yes, it's clearly an STI-style design, although unlike Justin's the Ares model (like the original) is machined as a single piece.
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Spoke to the boys are Ares, they will be fixing their website, and reminded them on pictures.

Also, their build parties are usually around $65, though in this case there will be less work to be done given the reduced work over an ar15, so the cost may be less.

Anyone on this group buy is welcome to drop by Ares' Build parties and complete your build when released
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Spoke to the boys are Ares, they will be fixing their website, and reminded them on pictures.

Also, their build parties are usually around $65, though in this case there will be less work to be done given the reduced work over an ar15, so the cost may be less.

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Just so I'm clear here, we pay the down, pay what's left (which seems to be up in the air right now), and we can be involved in a build party? I like this plan.
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The party is hosted by people with CNC machines, which still have to be paid $65 for their tooling use...just so we're clear....
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The party is hosted by people with CNC machines, which still have to be paid $65 for their tooling use...just so we're clear....
480v/440v 3phase to the machines isn't cheap either.

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The party is hosted by people with CNC machines, which still have to be paid $65 for their tooling use...just so we're clear....
is this a cost per frame? .. any type of break if you have multiple frames, like 2-4 frames?
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The party is hosted by people with CNC machines, which still have to be paid $65 for their tooling use...just so we're clear....
Question: I'm in for a build party! So, do I still need to purchase my own jig to participate? Or does paying the build party $ include use of a shared jig?
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Question: I'm in for a build party! So, do I still need to purchase my own jig to participate? Or does paying the build party $ include use of a shared jig?
I'm not sure how the 1911 party will work but that is how the AR15 ones work. Ares provides all needed to build your lower.
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Why is everyone so confused, it says this right in the description:
want to preorder it is only $99.95 to reserve your Rudius and $99.95 at time of delivery
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The party is hosted by people with CNC machines, which still have to be paid $65 for their tooling use...just so we're clear....
Yes, you are paying or the use of the machine and what the machine shop would normally be making during the time they r shut down for the build party. This is normal for all BP wether your r building and AR or a 1911. If u have to mill it out using someone else's CNC then u have to pay. If you want to do the work yourself using your tools at home then great. Most people are not machinists though and could screw up their 80. If you are going to be doing more than 1 or 2 then it might be worth it to purchase the tooling you will need to do your own builds.

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I agree. Not sure why people are not understanding this. Total price if ordering a single from Ares is $200. Participate in this GB and your total is $125.
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[/QUOTE]I agree. Not sure why people are not understanding this. Total price if ordering a single from Ares is $200. Participate in this GB and your total is $125.[/QUOTE]

So they're not $100 if I buy directly from them and we are getting cheaper right?






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When do you need payment by? Interested in 5 frames and 1 jig. I kinda picked up a lot of Sarco 1911 kits two Black Fridays ago...
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I'm not sure how the 1911 party will work but that is how the AR15 ones work. Ares provides all needed to build your lower.
Right, so it sounds like there are some details we need to gather about the Ares 1911 "sponsored" build parties.

1) do we need are own jig?
2) mill $$ estimate per paperweight?
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Is this a 2011 frame ??? 5" dust cover or short dust cover??? pls let me know I want 2 if its the widebody / 2011

will it accept sti magazine tubes???

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Is this a 2011 frame ??? 5" dust cover or short dust cover??? pls let me know I want 2 if its the widebody / 2011

will it accept sti magazine tubes???

can you send me info rippspeed1@yahoo.com
I'd recommend you read the first post, etc. from page 1 of this thread. It should answer your questions. Links are included.
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I'd recommend you read the first post, etc. from page 1 of this thread. It should answer your questions. Links are included.
Now where in the first post does it say its a single stack or double stack... And a carbon steel frame with a polymer grip is exactly what and STI and older SVI pistols are... Some people call a 2011 pistol a 1911 double stack or a 1911 with a polymer grip. so if it was mention whether it was a single stack or a double stack would have helped.

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Are everyone's questions going to be answered and pictures posted of the actual product before the June 15th deadline for payment?

*I am on the list even though in my original post I agreed at $102.5 instead of the $125 price. I am fine with remaining on the list until pictures are posted and some of the questions surrounding the frame are answered, then I may or may not still be interested*
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Now where in the first post does it say its a single stack or double stack... And a carbon steel frame with a polymer grip is exactly what and STI and older SVI pistols are... Some people call a 2011 pistol a 1911 double stack or a 1911 with a polymer grip. so if it was mention whether it was a single stack or a double stack would have helped.

PS. yes I can read and if it was mentioned I wouldn't have asked...
Actually the question of whether or not this was an STI compatible/clone was not only mentioned but briefly discussed. Had you bothered to read the whole thread you would know that and wouldn't have had to ask. We know that you can read. The question is why didn't you bother to do so before copping a tude?
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Now where in the first post does it say its a single stack or double stack... And a carbon steel frame with a polymer grip is exactly what and STI and older SVI pistols are... Some people call a 2011 pistol a 1911 double stack or a 1911 with a polymer grip. so if it was mention whether it was a single stack or a double stack would have helped.

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Actually the question of whether or not this was an STI compatible/clone was not only mentioned but briefly discussed. Had you bothered to read the whole thread you would know that and wouldn't have had to ask. We know that you can read. The question is why didn't you bother to do so before copping a tude?
Technically.. Ripp is correct, there is no mention as to capacity. As I'm sure you know, the grip frame and magazine release assembly, are the components which will determine single or double stack compatibility... The 1st post, hell the 1st page make no mention of single or double stack. Granted there is a mention of 70 Series in the 1st post, but as a term "Series 70" compares to the "Series 80" (the only other series type 1911). While both are Colt products, the primary difference being the firing pin block.

The modification of the grip frame does in fact provide an opportunity to run a Para, or STI, or SVI type double stack magazine...

Valid question, and it was not directly answered.
But I assume it'll be single stack... Given CA and all...
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Technically.. Ripp is correct, there is no mention as to capacity. As I'm sure you know, the grip frame and magazine release assembly, are the components which will determine single or double stack compatibility... The 1st post, hell the 1st page make no mention of single or double stack. Granted there is a mention of 70 Series in the 1st post, but as a term "Series 70" compares to the "Series 80" (the only other series type 1911). While both are Colt products, the primary difference being the firing pin block.

The modification of the grip frame does in fact provide an opportunity to run a Para, or STI, or SVI type double stack magazine...

Valid question, and it was not directly answered.
But I assume it'll be single stack... Given CA and all...
I'd also like to know the specifics about this polymer lower part, thats really the only major unknown that I see. Is it specific to ares? Can I get others, how much are extras? What grips fit it? All questions I need answered before I spend money. I'm sure others feel the same.
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I'm already on the interested list for one frame, but I won't be sending payment until I see photos of a finished product.

Hard to believe payments are already being accepted considering the grip detail isn't even nailed down. Let alone injection mold tooling/etc. Not saying this is a scam by any means but I'm hesitant to spend Monday on something I haven't seen, especially considering it isn't a standard configuration like the STI frames. As of right now I would rather save my cash and spend it on an STI grip and mill my own STI style frame.
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So a few questions.

Will and members in SoCal be available to help finish the 80% frames? I am willing to drive a bit. I just want to do one and dont want to invest in the jig and tooling for it - all ready did that for the 80% AR's . Would or course be willing to pay for machine time.

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Right, so it sounds like there are some details we need to gather about the Ares 1911 "sponsored" build parties.

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2) mill $$ estimate per paperweight?
1. Since they're renting out CNC mills, no jig is needed.
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1. Since they're renting out CNC mills, no jig is needed.
Speculation on my part since I have been to the AR Lower build party but the jig will most likely be needed for drilling the holes. They also provided that one on the AR lower parties. That is assuming we even need the CNC. The first post is saying a router table will be needed.

I'm thinking the 1911 will probably be similar. Only time will tell.
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don't know why no one including myself didn't check their facebook. this picture was dated may 6th. So it does exist. The grip will have checkering says previous posts. THERE WE HAVE A PICTURE. back to bussiness. What the heck is the difference between the 70 and 80 series? I've asked and no one answered. I believe someone could take the time to explain to me now =D. Are we limited to just 70 series or would an 80 work as well? I want to start gathering parts but this unanswered question is stopping me


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also stated under their comments for this picture was this "Ares Armor First one we do will be a single stack... we have it worked out to do a double stacked as well but that will be released at a later date.
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don't know why no one including myself didn't check their facebook. this picture was dated may 6th. So it does exist. The grip will have checkering says previous posts. THERE WE HAVE A PICTURE. back to bussiness. What the heck is the difference between the 70 and 80 series? I've asked and no one answered. I believe someone could take the time to explain to me now =D. Are we limited to just 70 series or would an 80 work as well? I want to start gathering parts but this unanswered question is stopping me


If they had one posted on their fb why the big deal of not posting that same pic here... interesting...
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If they had one posted on their fb why the big deal of not posting that same pic here... interesting...
Giving Ares the "Benefit of the doubt"...

It's possible this FB pics is NOT what we are looking at for our GB. Just a thought.
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Old 05-30-2012, 12:39 PM
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