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Old 04-14-2012, 7:40 PM
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who makes a good .40 caliber carbine / rifle? going a step further, are there any that are glock magazine compatible? I'm buying a Glock 23 .40 cal and I was thinking it would be nice to have a rifle that shoots the same caliber to add to my bug out set up. I figure a .40 cal from a 16" + barrel would make an effective weapon for personal defense, and also do a decent job on small game animals should I find myself moving out of an urban environment in to the local mountains.
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Old 04-14-2012, 7:52 PM
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There are only two .40 caliber carbines that I am aware of and the better one is out of production.

Ruger made the Police Carbine in 9mm and .40. It uses the same mags as their P-series Pistols.

Kel-Tec makes the Sub-2000, but that one is not CA-legal since the magazine is located in the pistol grip. It is compatible with Glock Magazines.
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Old 04-14-2012, 8:00 PM
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If you can find a ruger PC4 they're great to shoot. That was my first gun years ago, sold it about 3 years back still wish I hadn't let it go
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I've seen .40 S&W upper receivers for AR-15 type carbines as well. Generally include an magazine well adapter and utilize Glock pistol magazines.

Just one I found with a cursory Google search.
http://www.webarms.com/gun%20supplie...onversions.htm
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There are only two .40 caliber carbines that I am aware of and the better one is out of production.

Ruger made the Police Carbine in 9mm and .40. It uses the same mags as their P-series Pistols.

Kel-Tec makes the Sub-2000, but that one is not CA-legal since the magazine is located in the pistol grip. It is compatible with Glock Magazines.
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They can be made legal with a bullet button and I believe a stock extension
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PC4 is great I have no idea why they discontinue it. I did see a h&k USC converted to 40sw. Cost the guy some pretty pennies.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:28 PM
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who makes a good .40 caliber carbine / rifle? going a step further, are there any that are glock magazine compatible? I'm buying a Glock 23 .40 cal and I was thinking it would be nice to have a rifle that shoots the same caliber to add to my bug out set up. I figure a .40 cal from a 16" + barrel would make an effective weapon for personal defense, and also do a decent job on small game animals should I find myself moving out of an urban environment in to the local mountains.
The Kel Tec Sub2000 is a great little PCC. Lots of fun to shoot but a little bit of a pain to get in state. Out of the box they are not legal because 1. they have a pistol grip and a detachable magazine making them a CA assault weapon, and 2. they are a half inch under the CA minimum OAL limit.

They can be made legal with the Kel-Tec 1" Buttstock extension (bringing OAL to 30.5") AND either a bullet button (rendering it a fixed magazine weapon) or grip wrap/thumb block (eliminating the "pistol grip").

AFAIK the gun must be imported into the state converted to a CA legal setup or it must be shipped to a Class 7 in state and converted to a legal configuration by him. Don't quote me on this.

There was a company, in VA I believe, that was converting and shipping CA legal sub2000's but I can't remember the name of the website.
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hi-point but i cant say if its good.
http://www.google.com/search?q=hi+po...w=1502&bih=797

goes on sale at turners for $349.99
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I've been looking for a while too.

http://www.shop.justrightcarbines.com/main.sc

I have no experience with the carbines listed on that site, however they are okay in CA.

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There's always the mp5 in .40 they are a little pricey, and no glock mag love but they are great guns.
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There is a few people in this thread that have CA legal SUB 2000.Ask them how they did it.They say DDs Ranch does the conversions.Read it it will help.CDNN has them in there catalog for 299.99 in 40 s&w that takes glock mags.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=543708

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There's one FS here on the site. I have this exact one, fun!

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...&highlight=PC4
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+1 for the ruger PC4. Love those guns! There is also olympic arms. I have one of their 9mm uppers and enjoy shooting the crap out of it.
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Kel-Tec makes the Sub-2000, but that one is not CA-legal since the magazine is located in the pistol grip. It is compatible with Glock Magazines.
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You are confusing rifle laws with pistol laws. Pistols can not have a mag inserted outside of the pistol grip. Long guns have no restrictions on where the mag attaches.

As others have mentioned, the sub 2000's problem is having a pistol grip. Either BB or a grip wrap is required plus the butt stock extension for OAL.
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Berreta cx4 can be had in 9mm, 40, & 45.
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:56 AM
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Right... I totally forgot about that one.

Shot one a couple of years back - very smooth handling little carbine! Those also fall under the CA-AWB
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CX4 will require a BB or stock fill in, plus stock extension.
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IIRC Beretta makes stock extension modules...
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Get the Sub2000, if you are about portability.

And if you have a compatible Handgun (i.e. glock 22) It is very convenient to have 1 magazine for both firearms.

With a scope, as I have on mine, 50-75 yards.. it's damn accurate. I'll get 2-3 inch groups consistently.

Fold it up and put it in your backpack, and no one would ever know. I looked at other carbines..and this feature sold me on the Sub2000. I bought a Glock 22 and now I love it even more.


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