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Old 07-14-2012, 6:35 AM
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I ordered my 19ECB the day Costco put them on sale. I eeceived a confirmation email a few days later but I have not received the safe yet. It has been about a month.
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Does anyone know the depth of the Bighorn 36ECB WITH the handle installed? I will be putting mine inside a concealing cabinet with doors and need to know the depth required. All of the measurement I am able to find say it is 24" WITHOUT the handle. That is just a useless measurement.

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Does anyone know the depth of the Bighorn 36ECB WITH the handle installed? I will be putting mine inside a concealing cabinet with doors and need to know the depth required. All of the measurement I am able to find say it is 24" WITHOUT the handle. That is just a useless measurement.

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I have the 7144EL, but I'm pretty sure it uses the same five spoke handle as the 36ECB. And from the door face to the furthest point of the handles measured, 2 &3/4". Hope that helps.
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Thanks BL. That will work out great since I was planning on 4".

Another member PM'd me earlier and said they would check their 36ECB tonight, but I am sure you are right about them using the same 5 spoke.
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Thanks BL. That will work out great since I was planning on 4".

Another member PM'd me earlier and said they would check their 36ECB tonight, but I am sure you are right about them using the same 5 spoke.
26 3/4 inches total depth with spokes. 36ecb model.
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Thank you Mr82. That is exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate your help!
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No problem maho. Feel free to ask any questions. Were here to help out as much as we can.
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26 3/4 inches total depth with spokes. 36ecb model.
My suspicion was correct, they must use the same handle.
24"+2 3/4"=26 3/4"
But I'm glad that MR821907 confirmed this for you!
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Received the call and my new safe will be delivered tomorrow. I contacted a local safe moving company and they will come by and put it in place, level it, and bolt it down for me.
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Received the call and my new safe will be delivered tomorrow. I contacted a local safe moving company and they will come by and put it in place, level it, and bolt it down for me.
Congrats you won't be disappointed.
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did anyone hear receive their warranty part from bighorn? I contacted them a couple of weeks ago and still haven't gotten it yet. They didn't even say what they were sending out but it's making me paranoid that there's something wrong with it.
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Received the call and my new safe will be delivered tomorrow. I contacted a local safe moving company and they will come by and put it in place, level it, and bolt it down for me.
What is that going run you?
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$100

EDIT: I want to add this, the move for the new safe is only about 40 feet, worse case. No steps or stairs and simply a straight shot.
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If you wouldn't mind, could you provide feedback on the movers you used and if it was positive share their contact information for some of us who may be in the same boat (like me)

I originally had every intent to put a safe on the second/third floor but I'm not so sure it's a good idea load wise anymore.

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If you wouldn't mind, could you provide feedback on the movers you used and if it was positive share their contact information for some of us who may be in the same boat (like me)

I originally had every intent to put a safe on the second/third floor but I'm not so sure it's a good idea load wise anymore.

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Not sure where you are located, but the movers were Boswell Safe and Vault Co out of Temecula. They were professional and knew exactly how to do what had to be done. I could not be more pleased with the results.

Keep in mind my move was simply moving a few feet. I did not have to go up stairs or anything. I literally had the safe within a couple of feet where it needed to go. He positioned it to darn near the exact location I wanted (within about 1/4") leveled it perfectly and secured it to the floor. All of this was done in an hour, maybe a little less.

Highly recommended and would have no problem using them again.

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I just had my 36ECB delivered yesterday and of course, now it goes on sale at COSTCO for $100 less than what I paid for it. That is just my luck.

UPDATE: Called Costco and they credited my back the $100 difference. Gotta love Costco.
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I just had my 36ECB delivered yesterday and of course, now it goes on sale at COSTCO for $100 less than what I paid for it.
This is actually really great info! This deal may never happen again.

The 36ECB will be on sale, $500 off, on Costco.com, through August 12th!

If you have been waiting, now is the time to buy as this is an exceptional deal. A safe of this size at this price is incredibly hard to beat.

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This is actually really great info! This deal may never happen again.

The 36ECB will be on sale, $500 off, on Costco.com, through August 12th!

If you have been waiting, now is the time to buy as this is an exceptional deal. A safe of this size at this price is incredibly hard to beat.

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Damn... Sure wish Costco would hold it for me.
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Here is my newest review of my Bighorn 19ecb. I have 2 other reviews on my youtube page, from when I first got it. Anyway, I did this new one to show the led lights, and the liberty door organizer i put in. Check em out, and just for the record, I LOVE my Bighorn!!
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Here is my newest review of my Bighorn 19ecb. I have 2 other reviews on my youtube page, from when I first got it. Anyway, I did this new one to show the led lights, and the liberty door organizer i put in. Check em out, and just for the record, I LOVE my Bighorn!!
Awesome! Great review! Nice job on the LED lighting. It looks great! And finally someone wired in their own electrical box. I was beginning to think I was the only one who knew how. I decided against doing an outlet in mine, but nice job on yours!! Thanks for sharing!
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I finally got my safe bolted down. Stapled a couple of carpet samples over the bolts. And got most of my gun family in their new home. Lighting to come. I LOVE my Bighorn safe!

Lots of room for growth!
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Yes if anyone needs there safe installed, including the 2nd or 3rd story or if you have installation questions we're here to help. Thank you.

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Not sure where you are located, but the movers were Boswell Safe and Vault Co out of Temecula. They were professional and knew exactly how to do what had to be done. I could not be more pleased with the results.

Keep in mind my move was simply moving a few feet. I did not have to go up stairs or anything. I literally had the safe within a couple of feet where it needed to go. He positioned it to darn near the exact location I wanted (within about 1/4") leveled it perfectly and secured it to the floor. All of this was done in an hour, maybe a little less.

Highly recommended and would have no problem using them again.

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I finally got my safe bolted down. Stapled a couple of carpet samples over the bolts. And got most of my gun family in their new home. Lighting to come. I LOVE my Bighorn safe!

Lots of room for growth!
Geeze that safe is so big lol!
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Geeze that safe is so big lol!
I know! After I put my guns in there, for the first time in my life I thought, man I really don't have that many guns! But it's actually that I just bought a giant safe! Lol. But I love the extra space and the room for growth. No regrets. I'll post more pics when I get my lighting done.
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I know! After I put my guns in there, for the first time in my life I thought, man I really don't have that many guns! But it's actually that I just bought a giant safe! Lol. But I love the extra space and the room for growth. No regrets. I'll post more pics when I get my lighting done.
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Before you buy a Chinese built safe you should take a look at an all American made safe www.sunweldingsafes.com we have safes that compete with the Rhino, but they are American made.

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You say that now, but once you start filling it with other valuables (camera equipment, lenses, other electronics, paper documents/money (placed inside another safe), hard drive backups, DVDs, etc.), it should get tight!
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Before you buy a Chinese built safe you should take a look at an all American made safe www.sunweldingsafes.com we have safes that compete with the Rhino, but they are American made.

Send us an email: sun_welding@sbcglobal.net with an questions.
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Looks like nice safes. But if your comparing the scout s34 to the bighorn 36ECB. For less money you'll get thicker body steel, heavier safe, thicker locking bolts, more fire protection, a five spoke handle, more locking bolts, a much larger safe, and a made in china sticker : ) I will always root for made in America, but look at the comparison! There is a reason why people are choosing them.
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Send us an email: sun_welding@sbcglobal.net with an questions.
I took a look at those, and the prices just don't seem comparable at all for the product.
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Just punched the go-codes for a new 36ECB. Two quick questions for the guys that have already been through this.

1. How is the electronic lock? Did any of you ask Rhino to swap it out for a plain mechanical one?

2. How curbside is curbside delivery? What are the odds of me talking the delivery guy into rolling it the 25 feet from the curb to my garage?
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Just punched the go-codes for a new 36ECB. Two quick questions for the guys that have already been through this.

1. How is the electronic lock? Did any of you ask Rhino to swap it out for a plain mechanical one?

2. How curbside is curbside delivery? What are the odds of me talking the delivery guy into rolling it the 25 feet from the curb to my garage?
I love my electronic lock! Super quick and easy to open, and easy to set up. Easy to change the battery too without opening the safe.

The driver brought my safe not only up my driveway, but brought it right about where I needed it in my garage. I tipped my driver some cash to thank him. Almost every review reports the same treatment. I have yet to hear of a driver just leaving it on the curb.

Congratulations on the safe! I'm sure you will love it like the rest of us do!
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Thanks. Good to know on delivery. It seems like the electronic vs. manual debate is like 1911/Glock, etc. Maybe I'll give Rhino a buzz tomorrow to get some info on each.
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Just punched the go-codes for a new 36ECB. Two quick questions for the guys that have already been through this.

1. How is the electronic lock? Did any of you ask Rhino to swap it out for a plain mechanical one?

2. How curbside is curbside delivery? What are the odds of me talking the delivery guy into rolling it the 25 feet from the curb to my garage?

-The mechanical lock is easy to open but it feels kinda cheap. I am thinking about trying to replace it but I need to find something easy to swap it with that is silver, can't have a gold lock with silver handles.

-The guy who showed up to deliver mine was really nice. He was about 40 minutes late and apologized for it multiple times. He got it off the truck and I told him I was going to have to rent a pallet jack to put it where I wanted it. I told him I would give him the money it was cost me to rent one if he would do it for me. He said sure and then put it in place. I gave him $40 and he asked if I was sure and thanked me again. Overall great experience and a very nice middle of the road safe
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So, you gave him 40 bucks for being 40 minutes late? When the driver delivered my safe he was 2 hours late. He apologized but after making me wait for him he can kiss his tip bye-bye. Some of you guys are way too lenient.
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POS. owrked on multiple safe each brand. bolt work is cheap. the doors flex when you push on them and they cant even drill the holes for the keypad mounting straight.
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POS. owrked on multiple safe each brand. bolt work is cheap. the doors flex when you push on them and they cant even drill the holes for the keypad mounting straight.
I'm not a locksmith as you profess to being. However, I've said it before and I'll say it again. FOR THE MONEY this safe has yet to be beat, if you are buying new. If you can show a better alternative WITHIN THE SAME PRICE RANGE, everyone would love to see it. Bighorn safes offer an incredible bang for the buck. No one in this thread has ever said they are THE MOST secure or impenetrable. However, they offer a great level of protection to a would be dirt bag thief. And good luck flexing the door to my 1100 pound 44" Bighorn safe. You'll break your leg first. Believe me, I've tried.
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Like most first-time safe owners, I'd gotten enough guns that I really felt a safe was no longer an option. After some looking I bought a Bighorn from Costco (on sale) June 2010. I didn't have unlimited funds to buy the most expensive safe money could buy - I needed a good value - good safe for a good price.

On Sept 14 my home was burglarized while I was at work. A**hole took a quick trip through the house, and then looks to have taken a real interest in the safe, where he spent some time beating and prying on the door and hinges. Broke off the handle (this is supposed to break off inside the door - and did) and pulled the keypad off. Didn't come close to getting the safe open. So, while I'm not going to pretend that the safe outlasted a sophisticated criminal who came to take down a safe, I am more than satisfied that the safe did what it's supposed to do.

Contacted Rhino Metals and told them my story - Sent police report number, photos and a written statement to Rhino and they didn't hesitate a single second to do what was needed to open and repair my safe. They shipped parts to a local safe company, who scheduled a trip to my house to open the safe and repair the door. Rhino Metals even sent a bottle of touch-up paint. All covered under their warranty. Safe company said the bill that day would have been $500 if I'd been picking up the tab.

I can't say enough about the good folks at Rhino Metals, my Bighorn safe and the value that it was from Costco.

That's my story - your results may vary.

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That's a great story. I got burglarized as well back in March. Unfortunately I didn't have a safe and they took EVERYTHING of any value. Which is why once we get into our new home I will get a safe before I buy anything replacements to the things that were taken.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:14 AM
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Default Rhino Metals 5942XP Safe Review

Review of the Rhino Metals, RHINO Series Safes……..
After waiting 4 plus months, my safe has finally arrived at my home. With that said let’s talk about the actual safe. Packaging was very good and the safe survived transportation without any issues. First appearance is good, the safe looks nice. The exterior is finished nicely and is very attractive. The interior is well assembled and the carpeting is done very well. The door has a nice full 3/16 inch plate on the front and the door fits nice. So from the first inspection all looks good.
Close inspection reveals the down sides.
1) While they claim a 10 Gauge body and the actual sides of the body appear to be 10 gauge, the material in the door jambs is only 12 gauge. Why they felt it necessary to reduce the steel by two full gauges in the door jamb leaves me wondering. After all, this is the area that will be subject to prying in a burglary attempt.
2) The door is listed as a massive 4.5” thick composite door. What they really meant is that it that the door has a single layer of 3/16” plate on the front, followed by a 90% coverage of sheetrock against the inside of the plate, then a ton of air space and then 2 more layers of sheetrock. So that massive 4.5” thick composite door really has but only one layer of 3/16” plate steel protection period! There is minimal additional steel protection around the lock mechanism, but just enough to protect the dial/electronic latching area only.
3) The 3/16 in plate is stitch welded to the inner door frame. The stitch welding accounts for about a 20% coverage around the frame, about 1.5” to either side of the center of the bolts and then a few extra 3” beads here and there. They listed the body as continuously welded, I guess the door is not considered part of the body and therefore stitch welding it is acceptable. After all, thieves never pry on the door, Right?.
4) The door has only 4 active bolts on the open side with 4 fixed bolts on the hinged side. No bolts on the top or bottom. The fixed bolts may be 1 inch in diameter but have been turned down in size to ¾” where they are bolted to the door and locking mechanism. The bolts are attached (bolted) to the safe with SMALL 5/16” hardware. Therefore making them far less than 1 inch true door bolts.
5) The doors active bolts move through rough cut holes in the door frame with no sleeves or guides, just riding on the thinner gauge material they use in the door frame.
6) All four active bolts are mounted on one fixed plate that moves all the bolts together at one time, so once the thief gets one moving they all will move together.
7) The upper and lower bolts have tension adjustment in the door jamb, yet the middle two do not. The holes are oversized and not tight.
8) The lock handle mechanism feels a bit rough and sluggish, not nearly as smooth as others out there. The handle appear to be directly linked to the movement with no slip clutch for added protection.
9) My safe arrived with a mechanical dial, not an electronic lock. The dial spins with a soft to hard motion while making clicking sounds with a spring loaded feel and floats off the number once you remove your hand, kind of like a giant out of balance wheel.
10) The roof loses some fire protection as they have notched the fire material to make room for the included fluorescent light fixture instead of leaving a full sheet and hanging the light lower or using a lower profile light. To me this almost makes the last layer insignificant as it is not a full layer of fire lining.
11) The safe has two fire seals. The outer seal is metal to metal and fits well. The inner seal is metal to carpet (barely, almost misses that). I am not so sure this does much good in the event of the first seal failing as the carpet will surely deteriorate due to heat far faster than the seal, making the second seal irrelevant.
12) They say the safe is pre drilled for floor mounting and it is, kind of. The bottom metal of the body is drilled, however the sheetrock and carpet are not. So if you don’t punch the holes through from the bottom prior to removing the shipping feet, good luck finding the holes without removing the safes interior (what a pain that could be).
13) The safe has a UL RSC rating, basically that means it has the ability to withstand 5 full minutes of rigorous prying, drilling, punching, chiseling, and tampering. Don’t count on this safe (fancy, expensive, metal box) being secured for any length of time after that.
14) I purchase this safe more for its fire rating than its theft security rating. I am optimistic that should the first fire seal do its job (I have little to no faith in the second seal), the safe should meet my fire protection needs.
15) I would not considerer this one of the more secure safes out there (thin door jambs, low bolt count, bolts reduced in size at mounting point, bolts mounted with 5/16” hardware to safe frame, door is stitch welded, other areas appear to not be fully weld as well, not sure about the whole locking mechanism). I hope never have to test either quality of this safe.
16) To put it in a nutshell, the first impression is good if you are looking for overall appearance of the exterior and not true security. However, this safe is nowhere near a good as they make it sound and nowhere near as good as I had hoped it would be. There are far better products out there to choose from. Don’t get fooled like I did, do some research, get your money’s worth and solid security, my next safe will NOT be from Rhino Metals.
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