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Old 04-13-2015, 10:07 AM
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Default Running processed brass through die without lube?

I have a question about running processed brass in my XL650. I wanted to know do you need to remove the resizing/de-capping die in station one if I am running resized/trimmed un-lubed .223 brass. Below is the steps that I already completed on another press:
1) Cleaned
2) Lubed resized/de-capped
3) Swagged
4) Trimmed
5) Cleaned again to remove the lube.
Now that I have my brass ready I want to load up the brass in the case feeder and start cranking out some ammo. My concern is leaving the resizing/de-capping die in station one and running all that good brass through it without lube. My first thought is that it will be fine because I know the brass is already resized then I thought maybe that’s not a good idea to run a large amount of brass through that die without lube. Any Thoughts….
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Old 04-13-2015, 10:16 AM
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Why even put a die in station one? You've already done that operation, so I don't see any reason to tempt fate and use a die; even with the expander removed.
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No need for the sizing die in station one but unless you want to inspect every flash hole for cleaning media, a universal decapping die works well to make sure every flash hole is clean.
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:18 AM
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I have a question about running processed brass in my XL650. I wanted to know do you need to remove the resizing/de-capping die in station one if I am running resized/trimmed un-lubed .223 brass. Below is the steps that I already completed on another press:

1)Cleaned

2)Lubed resized/de-capped

3) Swagged

4)Trimmed

5)Cleaned again to remove the lube.

Now that I have my brass ready I want to load up the brass in the case feeder and start cranking out some ammo. My concern is leaving the resizing/de-capping die in station one and running all that good brass through it without lube. My first thought is that it will be fine because I know the brass is already resized then I thought maybe that’s not a good idea to run a large amount of brass through that die without lube. Any Thoughts….

This should be pretty easy for you to figure out. What does common sense tell you?

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Why even put a die in station one? You've already done that operation, so I don't see any reason to tempt fate and use a die; even with the expander removed.

This seems sensible to me. If you really need advise, I'd follow this guy's.
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:52 AM
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Even though the brass is already resized, brass has a small amount of "spring-back" meaning your sizing die will still contact and rub against a sized case. Without lube, you might seize a case inside the die. There is less chance of this happening if you are using a carbide sizing die.

Like chknlyps2 said, a universal decapping die would be a better solution if you want to ensure all primer pockets are clear of primers and tumbling media.

Also, using just a decapper instead of a sizer/decapper will result in a smoother press stroke with less friction and jerkiness if your cases are not rubbing against a sizing die surface, which should lead to more consistent powder drops.
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Thanks Guys,

Common sense tells me to just remove the die from station one and do a good visual on the flash holes before I start the process......
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I decap and then SS tumble. Then I load on a xl650 without a die in station 1. I have always wondered if this puts a uneven pressure on my shell plate while I reload. specifically on OAL..... My ammo has always been very consistent so I haven't ever worried about it that much.


Has anyone ever done a test with/without a resize die in station one? It would be nice to see if it makes a difference at all
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