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Old 02-20-2012, 8:35 PM
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Default Best scope for the money to run on an AR?

Does anyone have knowledge of good quality and an affordable price for optics for an AR-15 with 20" barrel.
Millott circle dot at $230.00 seems like a good balance of Zero to 500yds, but it depends on a battery to run it.
Is there something similar that does not need batteries.
Needs to be rugged to take knocks.
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Old 02-20-2012, 9:16 PM
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I would look at the Konus pro m30 line. I have the 8.5-32x52 and the glass is very good for the money.

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I just bought the Nikon M223 2x8x32 and I am loving it. Great scope. I am a photographer as well and you aren't going to find better than Nikon unless you spend a lot more money. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...93T1054KYH9X9F

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I just got the Nikon ProStaff Rifle Scope 4-12x 40mm BDC Reticle Matte from Midway today for $169

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Old 02-21-2012, 4:17 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys.

I'll look up info on the Konus, nikon 223 and the nikon prostaff.

Thanks agian, and please give more ideas.
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Nikon M223
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I just bought the Nikon M223 2x8x32 and I am loving it. Great scope. I am a photographer as well and you aren't going to find better than Nikon unless you spend a lot more money. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...93T1054KYH9X9F

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I have the same glass. It is very nice.
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"What Scope should I buy with $XXX" is such a common question; Has anyone considered making a sticky database with ratings and reviews for a variety of scopes at different price ranges, as well as an overall rating/ranking system? I believe it would be rather helpful to anyone who doesn't have a few grand to blow trying out different scopes. Of course it will come down to personal opinion in some cases, but it could save a lot of hassle, and help a lot of people. Just my 2 cents.

And I'm seriously looking at the Nikon 3-9x50. Such a pretty piece of glass for $200-$300. Very tempting.
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I would definitely look into the Vortex Viper line - https://www.primaryarms.com/Vortex_s/348.htm and http://www.libertyoptics.com/index1.html

and the Weaver Tactical line - http://www.midwayusa.com/find?dimens...erSearchQuery=
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This thread was perfect, it helped me make a decision on a scope myself...thanks guys!
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Mueller APT has done me well. I've just recently shot an NRA 600 yard match with it. I happily took on the task of sighting in my brothers AR for the match back to back with my own setup. We have identical uppers but he rotates between a Weaver Grand Slam 3-10x and a Bushnell 5-15x vs. my 4.5-14x Mueller APT. And I like mine alot better. I get a larger field of view, a brighter picture due to the 30mm tube and 50mm objective, and the picture quality and contrast is pretty much equal. Plus I like my mildot reticle better, maybe its just the increased fov but my sight picture is effortlessly comfortable to hold all day. Got the APT with the intention to upgrade but nowcthats becoming less of a priority.

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Millet DMS 1-4 is a good scope for the money. The illuminated reticle will be washed out in bright sunlight but good in low light. I have one on my home HD rifle.
Burris XTR on my 3 gun competition rifle. Love the BDC feature on the Burris.
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I just bought the Nikon M223 2x8x32 and I am loving it. Great scope. I am a photographer as well and you aren't going to find better than Nikon unless you spend a lot more money. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...93T1054KYH9X9F

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I am no scope expert. What is the difference between the M223 and the P223?
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+1 on the Millet DMS I bought one last week and put it on my AR worked perfect for me nice clear sight picture ( of course not quite as clear as some of the higher end options ) but a very good buy for the money. If your budget allows a little more the Vortex Viper 1x5 is an awesome scope and for a little more the Trijicon Accupoint is excellent.
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I am no scope expert. What is the difference between the M223 and the P223?
I read that the P series is the "more economical" series, while the M is little more upscale.

I couldn't tell you feature for feature what the differences are though.

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Thanks again everyone.

Now can anyone give plus or minus for either mildot vs BDC?

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The 3 best scopes for the money in different price ranges for an AR15 chambered in 223 or 5.56 are...

Nikon M223 2-8x32mm
SWFA 3-9x42mm
Nightforce 2.5-10x32mm
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Try a Leupold 1-4 with heavy duplex reticle. Not too pricey and made in US.
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Thanks again everyone.

Now can anyone give plus or minus for either mildot vs BDC?

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Mil-dot > BDC

The problem with BDC is that it's made for a specific projectile at a specific speed and bullet drop.

Well of course, if you are using that round with same speed and drop as the BDC, it's KING, perfect hold overs, plain awesome.

Although, companies like Nikon have calculators that work specifically with their BDC where you input your bullet parameters and it'll tell you what each BDC hashmark will be... that's pretty cool too.

They're kind of the same... but kind of not.

I just make my life simple and made all my scopes mil-dot or a variation of mil-dot. Less confusion for my tired and confused mind.
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Optics planet has a sale on leupolds right now.
Mark AR 3-9x40 mildot for $350
http://m.opticsplanet.net/leupold-3-...flescopes.html
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Thanks for the replies guys.

I'll look up info on the Konus, nikon 223 and the nikon prostaff.

Thanks agian, and please give more ideas.
In addition to the Nikon Prostaff line there's also the Burris Timberline and Leupold Rifleman series, all economy price but with "parent company" quality.

Nikon makes a fixed 3X scope for the AR, costs about $145.00. If you want more magnification in a small package and low price the Burris Timberline 4 to 14X is very good. Front bell is about 32mm, doesn't take up much room & costs about $225.00.

I had the Millett DMS and thought the optics were middle of the road for even a $200.00 scope.
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Im considering this one for my 6.5 build.
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-16x42-Tactic...cope-P501.aspx
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Bushnell elite 10x hovers around $200.00
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CMR 1-4x scope!
In the $300 price range, the CMR would be my pick as well. Excellent reticle design along with exceptionally clear glass make the CMR stand out from the crowd at this budget level.
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Vortex has THE BEST warranty by far. No questions asked, they will replace it for free.
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you aren't going to find better than Nikon unless you spend a lot more money.
Too bad Canon doesn't make scopes.
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I bought a Lucid HD7. Seems to get rave reviews and I bought it for $166.32 with the 12% off coupon from optics planet.
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Heard a lot of good things about leupold mark AR scopes.
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I'm a big fan of either Barska or UTG scopes. They've each got a 3-9x that performs well on AR's. UTGs is the CQB Bug Buster 3-9x30, and Barskas is the 3-9x42.

A little bigger lens on the barska makes it my choice. Relatively same costs. Both way under 200$

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Vortex Viper PST 2.5-10x32mm FFP. It has every possible feature that you could ask for and very clear glass. Holds zero and tracks really well.

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believe it or not barska has a GREAT warranty. I have dealt with them in the past. Their scopes are decent. Not terrible, but not great. For money they are bargain scopes.

IMO Vortex is amazing. Best warranty for sure.
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For the money... (Just for the best quality at the cheapest price)

Red dot. Primary Arms micro dot
1-4x. Hi lux CMR
3-9x. Nikon
Fixed. SWFA 10x MRAD (I wish mrad was more standard on more manufactures)
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