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Old 02-23-2012, 5:11 PM
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I know nothing in regards to the pro series but I know my standard m&p 40 had like 6.5 trigger pull. Appex comp trigger pull is like 3.5 lbs of pull some people have complained its to light. And I had similar concerns but I'm very happy with my trigger it's still fairly crisp. But I would not be comfortable with this on a concealed carry weapon hahahahaha god no
Eh anything over the stock trigger. I really thought people were making it overblown then I dry fired it and went wow it really is bad. It was more of the reset that bothered me then the actual break, but neither were great. The APEX is the fix though.

That said I could make stuff connect with it I'm sure. I figured though if the Pro series is almost as good, you can have it out of box that way and still have a warranty (assuming this APEX does void it, if I'm wrong correct me).
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Old 02-23-2012, 5:41 PM
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Thanks. Ya I don't know if I should splurge on the expensive truglo tritium or go with the more responsible cheaper fiber opticfront sight. Or PLAN C! Buy the sight mentioned earlier in the thread.
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Old 02-23-2012, 5:44 PM
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Appex doesn't void anything. I have all original parts and will exchange them if I need to involve the warranty. And ya the original trigger was crud! U really could jerk the hell out of it. The break was terrible. I love my gun other than that
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Old 02-23-2012, 6:42 PM
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Does the Pro series have a similar trigger to the APEX kit?

In any cases its a pretty good gun stock, for the most part. The trigger was my only gripe. APEX seems to have squared that away and its fairly affordable, unless its worth the investment of going Pro series. I haven't got to hold or try a Pro series though.
The Pro has a re-profiled striker block similar to the Apex Tactical Ultimate Striker Block. Even the duty sprung D/CAEK will result in a nicer trigger than that in the Pro.

If you wanted to shot the M&P in competition and wanted the longer sight radius, you'd be better off getting a M&P 9L and adding the Apex Tactical parts
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Appex doesn't void anything. I have all original parts and will exchange them if I need to involve the warranty. And ya the original trigger was crud! U really could jerk the hell out of it. The break was terrible. I love my gun other than that
Thats good but surprising considering its third party and not owned by SW, unless something happened recently that I dont know about. And yea if I even contemplated a M&P it would be a APEX or no go.

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The Pro has a re-profiled striker block similar to the Apex Tactical Ultimate Striker Block. Even the duty sprung D/CAEK will result in a nicer trigger than that in the Pro.

If you wanted to shot the M&P in competition and wanted the longer sight radius, you'd be better off getting a M&P 9L and adding the Apex Tactical parts

Thats good to hear. Yea I'll stick with a M&P 9L if I did.
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Thats good but surprising considering its third party and not owned by SW, unless something happened recently that I dont know about. And yea if I even contemplated a M&P it would be a APEX or no go.




Thats good to hear. Yea I'll stick with a M&P 9L if I did.
Now I know ur not that dull. I'm sure after I re install all the original parts which I have. And which are almost all springs pooooof! Warranty Is back in action
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Old 02-23-2012, 7:26 PM
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Bro I'm sure it does void the warranty but theres a gray area. But the appex competition kit includes that striking block. And to be honest the trigger was horrid and I needed a change. I appreciate u being the devils advocate here.

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Old 02-24-2012, 9:20 AM
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Thanks. Ya I don't know if I should splurge on the expensive truglo tritium or go with the more responsible cheaper fiber opticfront sight. Or PLAN C! Buy the sight mentioned earlier in the thread.
expensive truglo's?
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...ducts_id/61021
TRU TG131MPTY TFO S&W M&P
$76

Best money I spent on my M&P.
Out in the daylight they fiber optics POP!
Green front with yellow rear is the way to go.

I have a Serpa CQC holster for it and have maybe 1,000 rounds fired with them on. Lot's of double-taps and controlled pairs. In and out of the holster MANY times.

The only downside is that they are not as bright at night as dedicated tritium sights are.
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Old 02-24-2012, 9:30 AM
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expensive truglo's?
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...ducts_id/61021
TRU TG131MPTY TFO S&W M&P
$76

Best money I spent on my M&P.
Out in the daylight they fiber optics POP!
Green front with yellow rear is the way to go.

I have a Serpa CQC holster for it and have maybe 1,000 rounds fired with them on. Lot's of double-taps and controlled pairs. In and out of the holster MANY times.

The only downside is that they are not as bright at night as dedicated tritium sights are.
There was a guy on youtube in some central northern state who bought a M&P 9 and was doing a review. He had a Red fiber front and black rear sights. When he showed the POV on camera I almost bought some myself.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:08 AM
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Anyone get the apex FRE? no problems?
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:13 AM
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I have an FRE installed by Randy Lee, let the pic speak for itself.



No problems after a few thousand rounds, it will probably outlast the rest of the gun lol
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:16 AM
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Looks beastly. Sold. haha. Gf now has her M&P9c. sending her and my FS9 in next week..
Getting Level II, FRE, RAM, and FRE on both. Am i forgetting anything?(defensive/range use only)
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:20 AM
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That's what both of my M&P's have except the Large Sear Housing is on the Compact (Make sure you have that on both) and I need it for my FS9, My FS9 has the FRE which I want for my 9c.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:22 AM
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Hmm good point. Compact probably has it as its new. better add that to my list haha. Thanks brother.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:37 AM
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No problem. Good luck!
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:43 AM
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Hey I realize this isn't your decesion? But what do u guys think if I'm going to spend 120 bucks should I buy a truglo tritium ( which all my local stores carry ) or this a better option that I can order online? Just don't really know how wide the sight spectrum goes if u know what I mean. If I'm spending too dollar on sights. Just thinking if there are anymore options I'm not considering?
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:47 AM
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I dislike the Truglo sights, too big, too bright and if you happen to break a vial you're screwed and need to replace it outright. Just my opinion.

Notice that neither serious competitors or Law Enforcement use those sights.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:50 AM
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I appreciate the insight. What is a common competition sight. I do. Realize that targets often get covered up with the standard larger front sight post.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:52 AM
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Dawson, Warren Tactical, Heinie, Ameriglo,Trijicon etc...
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:56 AM
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I dislike the Truglo sights, too big, too bright and if you happen to break a vial you're screwed and need to replace it outright. Just my opinion.

Notice that neither serious competitors or Law Enforcement use those sights.
The TFO's are a little longer that most, but unless you're carrying in your waistband without a holster I don't see the problem with them. The vials are protected every direction except straight up. I've been rolling around on the ground with mine and haven't worried about them.. UNTIL NOW! haha
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:01 AM
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They are also too bright and cover up too much of the sight picture IMO. I prefer these sight pictures that I have and ones like them with Tritium or FO only front.

Ameriglo's with a Hackathorn front:



Heinie Ledge's


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Old 02-24-2012, 11:07 AM
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They are also too bright and cover up too much of the sight picture IMO.
When I'm outside I have sunglasses on, besides the fact that they are not THAT bright. Indoor ranges up my way are all too dark for the sites to be too bright, and light enough to not have the tritium show.
In the conditions up here you may find them acceptable, brightness wise.
What are you comparing them to? You make these things sound nuclear. haha
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That red front looks nice.
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Not a great pic but it's Orange, Ameriglo's pic makes them look like Truglo sights lol


”Hack' Stlye sight set for the SW M&P. Rear sight is serrated with a generous .165” wide notch. Front sight is green tritium with orange outline. front sight is .140” wide and stock height.
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I like the heinie's that were pictured. And the ameriglo in the second post ameriglo are trijicon?
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Ameriglo and a few other companies.use Trijicon tritium tubes
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Makes sense thank u. For real thanks for all the help
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I have an FRE installed by Randy Lee, let the pic speak for itself.

[IMG]http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad251/SShenaniguns/35dfbbe0.jpg[/MG]

No problems after a few thousand rounds, it will probably outlast the rest of the gun lol
Did you have issues with the extractor or was it a proactive solution? I feel like my stock extractor is very sturdy for its application. That thing looks beastly though.

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Proactive, it was at Apex Tactical so I said why the heck not?
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lol
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I feel like my stock extractor is very sturdy for its application. That thing looks beastly though.
The stock extractor is very study, but it is optimized for the .40 S&W
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The stock extractor is very study, but it is optimized for the .40 S&W
Lucky me I guess (.40 S&W owner)
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I will be ordering ameriglo proglo 2 dot system 88 bucks shipped
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Thanks for the help def glad I didn't go an spend 125 at my local fun store on truglos.
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That's what both of my M&P's have except the Large Sear Housing is on the Compact (Make sure you have that on both) and I need it for my FS9, My FS9 has the FRE which I want for my 9c.
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Pull the sear housing block and look, but if it was made over a year ago than it probably needs to be upgraded. I believe Midway and Brownells carries them which reminds me that I need to buy one.
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Theadjack. I also have a M&P40 that's in need of some upgrades. DCAEK for sure and new sights. I know I want a red fiber optic front, but not sure about the rear. Thinking about keeping the stock rear with a red fiber optic front. Anyone have any thoughts in this?

Also thinking about a 9mm conversion barrel. I like the 40S&W, but I don't have a full size 9mm in my safe yet. I do have a Glock 26. Any thoughts on the 9mm conversions for M&P40s? Threadjack over.
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I'm interested to hear your decesion with sights. I talked to this guy at the local gun range he said ameriglo and truglo are at the lower end of the brightness game and at a brand that starts with an "m" was the best. He was also really big on the heinie 8 sights? I will begin research now haha. Seems like there's just a **** load out there.
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Brightness doesn't determine the quality of the sights, Meprolights may be brighter than Trijicon but I prefer the more defined vials from Trijicon. YMMV
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Truglos are bright, two of my guns wear them. Truglo nitesights on the left(G27) TFOs in the center(XDm .40)

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