US-made IWI Tavor coming later this year

[m03]

As posted on BullPupForum:

http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?PH...h7&topic=478.0



I hope someone gets a pre-production unit to design a magazine lock for it (and I'm also hoping that there's a longer barrel version offered)

[MrPlink]

Who is making them? I know barret was supposed to way back when...

[chead]

It's 28.3" OAL, just put a slightly longer flash hider or brake on it.

[arc]

[21SF]

OMG thats the only good looking bullpup I have seen.

I think i got a semi watching that video....

Takes AR mags?

This and the CM901 are on my list...

[PolishMike]

I think half a dozen companies tried and failed... I hope these actually come out...

[starsnuffer]

That has to be the worst booth rep ever.

-W

[armygunsmith]

I'll believe it when I see it in a gun shop, until then it's vaporware.

[m03]

Originally Posted by starsnuffer

That has to be the worst booth rep ever.

That's Michael Kassnar. I think that's the same guy who imported Hungarian AKs in the 1980s and 1990s (Kassnar Imports / KBI).

If he says the Tavor is coming out later this year...well, he'd know better than anyone else.

[goodlookin1]

Vaporware is right.

I've always thought it looks like something from Halo...

Looks long and bulky, but what do I know.

[Dhena81]

LOL we hope out before the elections that is hilarious.


I wish I was super rich my list is already ridiculous this does not help

[TwinStick]

Originally Posted by MrPlink

Who is making them? I know barret was supposed to way back when...

Maybe Red Jacket.

[osis32]

Mag locks on bull pups suck.

[zfields]

Originally Posted by osis32

Mag locks suck

Fixed it for you.

[LovingTheYear1911]

Umm, looks like I'm saving up for this. I dont know how I will do it, but if it comes to it, my liver is for sale....

[xxINKxx]

Looks pretty dang futuristic.

Off topic, I thought Charles daly went under? Are they back under new owners?

(saw thier banner-booth in the background of the video/and link)

[vandal]

A Solar Tactical grip wrap should work fine!

Originally Posted by osis32

Mag locks on bull pups suck.

[osis32]

Originally Posted by vandal

A Solar Tactical grip wrap should work fine!

I have one on my msar I know. but apparently you still have to worry about that trigger guard being considered a fore grip...

[PachecoFTW]

That's What Charles Daly said.

[Maddog5150]

Thats pretty cool! I personally would rather have a FAMAS tho

[m03]

Originally Posted by xxINKxx

Looks pretty dang futuristic.

Off topic, I thought Charles daly went under? Are they back under new owners?

(saw thier banner-booth in the background of the video/and link)

Sort of. From a thread on arf:

"HARRISBURG, PA — After a two-year absence, the Charles Daly® brand and its tactical subsidiary, CD Defense™, have re-entered the American marketplace, with distribution by Trans World Arms LLC of Harrisburg, PA.

TWA President Michael Kassnar said the CD Defense™ product line will include six modern sporting rifle and carbine models, a trio of new shotguns and several handguns, including three all-steel models and six pistols with polymer frames in two versions, a full-size and a compact in 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP.

“We’re really excited about serving American shooters once again with quality firearms under the Charles Daly® and CD Defense™ brands,” Kassnar said. “Shooters familiar with these firearms lines can rest assured that they are as rugged and reliable as ever"

[jokat989]

ide tap that

[Boltz]

Don't know much about the Tavor, but the aesthetics don't do it for me. For example, what's with the massive handguard instead of just a simple triggerguard?

Also, what makes the Tavor stand out from other similar bullpups already on the market, ie the FS2000, Aug, or RFB?

[m03]

Originally Posted by Boltz

Also, what makes the Tavor stand out from other similar bullpups already on the market, ie the FS2000, Aug, or RFB?

I never get this line of questioning. What makes any rifle stand out from any other similarly-priced rifle of the same caliber on the market.

"Styling" and "operating system" would be enough for me, but beyond that...it probably doesn't handle like holding a tuna (FS2000), would actually be on the market (the AUG isn't at present), and AFAIK a 5.56 RFB isn't even available at present. This is, of course, assuming that the Tavor manages to hit retail stores in 2012.

[starsnuffer]

Originally Posted by Boltz

Don't know much about the Tavor, but the aesthetics don't do it for me. For example, what's with the massive handguard instead of just a simple triggerguard?

Also, what makes the Tavor stand out from other similar bullpups already on the market, ie the FS2000, Aug, or RFB?

Mainly the ease to swap to left handed. Apparently a lot of Israelis are leftys (compared to other genetic mixtures), and if you've ever fired a bullpup left handed, the ejection isn't pleasant.

I honestly think FN solved this with the way the F2000 sort of "poops" cartridges out the front, but FN has a lot of wasted space/plastic. The Tavor is the lovechild of the FN and the AUG.

-W

[proclone1]

Originally Posted by arc

LOL. Actually, I was really hoping that the Tavor would be resurrected. Hopefully this isn't all just more smoke & mirrors and that something actually comes to the market.

The Bullpup market just isn't that great especially since Microtech/MSAR died.

[chead]

I'm saving up for the preorder. Want so bad.

[Maddog5150]

I heard that they will be offering it for a low low price of $29.99 but then a week before the release they will raise it up to $2,500. I hear that tactic is going to be covered in the new Magpul video called, "Rip-off Dynamics" co-produced by Bushmaster and Remington.

[proclone1]

Originally Posted by Maddog5150

I heard that they will be offering it for a low low price of $29.99 but then a week before the release they will raise it up to $2,500. I hear that tactic is going to be covered in the new Magpul video called, "Rip-off Dynamics" co-produced by Bushmaster and Remington.

sweet, rockin. Even though your genuine excitement might have gotten the best of you there, I would wager that if it does come to market, the $2,500 mark would be about right for what they'll try to charge for it.

[m03]

Originally Posted by Boltz

Also, what makes the Tavor stand out from other similar bullpups already on the market, ie the FS2000, Aug, or RFB?

I just rewatched the demo video, and I think "ease of disassembly" is another good aspect of the Tavor. It looks like the bolt/carrier/piston/recoil-spring assembly comes out with the removal of a single pin, and the hammer pack drops out by pulling two pins.

I'm not sure about the RFB, but that appears to beat the FS2000 and AUG in that department.

[ptoguy2002]

The Israelis know what's going on when it comes to weapons.
That is probably the best reason for one.
Except I think I'm spending my vapor wear money on a Beretta ARX-160.

[cfusionpm]

Originally Posted by arc

^THIS.

[osis32]

The aug breaks down super easy. I don't think the tavor is that superior if at all.

[Solidsnake87]

I want one. Slap a G36 scope carry handle on it and it'l be the closest thing to a FA-MAS I'll ever get to.

[prerunners4life]

I will stick with buying the fs2000 with tax return for now, I will believe it when I see it...

[proclone1]

Originally Posted by Solidsnake87

I want one. Slap a G36 scope carry handle on it and it'l be the closest thing to a FA-MAS I'll ever get to.

haha brilliant. I wonder what it would take to mold some plastics to frankenstein the FAMAS asthetics with the parts. They can't be too dissimilar, right? After all, aren't the Israeli's pretty well known for making good stuff from alternating original designs? It would be interesting to see how different the two (famas v tavor) are in mechanics.

[Solidsnake87]

FA-MAS is a completely different platform. The Tavor is piston operated rotary bolt. The FA-MAS is straighy blowback, which is why it has an absolutely insane rate of fire. Either way, If both come out, I want both!

[NorCalK9.com]

I'll take it!
PM sent

[Mr310]

Based on my extensive experience with it in Modern Warfare, I can say with complete resolve that the IMI Tavor is an amazing rifle. It's ability to garner its user headshots, coupled with its high rate of fire and quick magazine changes makes it without doubt the 2nd greatest gun ever made, only surpassed by the Deagle.

[cfusionpm]

I loved it since before Modern Warfare.... It was cool way back in Rainbow Six Vegas :P