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Old 12-22-2016, 12:09 PM
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I am looking for ether a marksmanship school or private instructor in ether the Bay Area (most preferred), Sacramento (least preferred), or Ventura County.

Does anyone have recommendations on a place or person? I grew up plinking and such but never had any formal training. The eventual goal would be IDPA and such competitions.

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Old 12-22-2016, 6:03 PM
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Richmond Rod and Gun runs Action pistol matches. That's probably the closest to you. The talent pool there is pretty darn strong. I can't speak to their availabilities, but you can glean a lot just by checking out matches.

In the meantime, it would behoove you to research the requirements for each discipline you wish to pursue. There are plenty of resources on the web (e.g., youtube vids) that should help you understand the basics. The most paramount is being comfortable drawing from a holster--you mentioned you plink, but it wasn't clear if you have been practicing drawing from a holster. Fortunately, you can learn a lot by practicing at home in a safe manner.

Also, the start buzzer is another aspect of the shooting sports that can be a bit weird at first. You don't really need to shell out for a timer at first, but it is nice to have some sort of start buzzer when you practice. If you have a smartphone look for a timer app. I think I have one called ipsc shot timer (apparently, my version is still in beta . . . Oh well it works)

They also run classes from time to time. I suppose it wouldn't really be one-on-one, but there is going to be a class in May. There is a post about it in the training class announcements section
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1274339

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Intro to IPSC (USPSA) here:


http://www.richmondhotshots.com/intro_to_ipsc.html

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Old 12-23-2016, 9:26 PM
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Richmond Rod and Gun runs Action pistol matches. That's probably the closest to you. The talent pool there is pretty darn strong. I can't speak to their availabilities, but you can glean a lot just by checking out matches.
That is on my near term list of things to do. Checkout both the matches and the practices if they allow people to spectate the practices.

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In the meantime, it would behoove you to research the requirements for each discipline you wish to pursue. There are plenty of resources on the web (e.g., youtube vids) that should help you understand the basics. The most paramount is being comfortable drawing from a holster--you mentioned you plink, but it wasn't clear if you have been practicing drawing from a holster. Fortunately, you can learn a lot by practicing at home in a safe manner.
Right now I am looking to participate in SSP with IDPA. I might also do ESP/CDP since I have a slightly moded 1911 that does not qualify for SSP.

I don't have much experience with holster drawing at the moment. It had not been a priority for me since I can't get a CCW here and can't put it into practice at the range for the most part. But I did pickup a Blade Tech holster for my Glock 34 so I can start practicing now that I have a goal in which those skills help me.

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Also, the start buzzer is another aspect of the shooting sports that can be a bit weird at first. You don't really need to shell out for a timer at first, but it is nice to have some sort of start buzzer when you practice. If you have a smartphone look for a timer app. I think I have one called ipsc shot timer (apparently, my version is still in beta . . . Oh well it works)
That is a great point that I didn't think of. I will look into getting one. Do you happen to know if indoor or outdoor ranges allow you to use them on the lanes? I know I can really use it to record speed since rapid fire is not generally allowed. But it would be nice to practice with it regardless.

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They also run classes from time to time. I suppose it wouldn't really be one-on-one, but there is going to be a class in May. There is a post about it in the training class announcements section
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1274339

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I will watch that thread. Thank you for all the helpful information!
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That is a great point that I didn't think of. I will look into getting one. Do you happen to know if indoor or outdoor ranges allow you to use them on the lanes? I know I can really use it to record speed since rapid fire is not generally allowed. But it would be nice to practice with it regardless.
A timer is even more important to practice with for daily dry fire practice. Just about anything you can practice with live fire, you can practice with dry fire. Draws, reloads, trigger press and isolation, transitions, movement etc.. all can be done dry and with a timer.
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That is a great point that I didn't think of. I will look into getting one. Do you happen to know if indoor or outdoor ranges allow you to use them on the lanes? I know I can really use it to record speed since rapid fire is not generally allowed. But it would be nice to practice with it regardless.
Honestly, I'm not quite sure about square ranges. I'm fortunate enough to be able to practice at my local action pistol range from time to time (generally after the match is over) so I have access to a timer. I suppose it couldn't hurt to give them a call and ask.

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I will watch that thread. Thank you for all the helpful information!
No sweat.

Also, I'm digging the idea of that $25 intro class that was referenced in another post. Granted, it's geared towards USPSA, but it also gets you free entry to a USPSA match.

One of the unique aspects of IDPA is the use of a concealment garment. Some people opt for a garment (most often a vest) that is purpose built for the game. In reality, anything that meets the standards (i.e., covers your gear entirely while your arms are raised to the point that they are parallel to the ground) will do. I just use a slightly oversized rain jacket. I can't really say how much of an edge the vest will give vs. whatever you happen to have in the closet.

Whatever you end up getting: practice (safely), practice (safely), practice (safely).
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I would first get into shooting under stress and with a timer. I did this for 6 months, shot my first uspsa match, and painfully learned that there is so much more to the sport. Took a 2 year break to train before my next match, but that's on the extreme side.

Richmond hot shots is your best bet for uspsa, but the $25 intro course is really about safety and basic rules like not breaking the 180 and other things that'll get you DQ'ed. Reeds indoor range has a good introductory league on Mondays that will be a good interim training opportunity before getting into uspsa topics like exiting hard, coming in soft, and other non-marksmanship topics
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Go buy a steel target, find some public land Get a holster 1000 rounds of ammo and go shoot,

Practice drawing you weapon from holster slowly, it should be a five count from 1 putting your hand on the butt to 5 acquiring the sights.

Say the numbers, do the operation, by the numbers then it become force of habit. Shot one round and one round only until you can draw aim and fire and hit a standard business card. Then work on multiple targets, then work on multiple round on a single target and multiple rounds on multiple targets. Baby steps and lots of ammo.

Professional private lessons by an experienced respected shooter starts pretty damn high. like $200 for a two hour session $400 for a half day and just chock it up to a full grand for a two day weekend that provides about 12 hours of training with about 3/4 of that actual range time depending on your skill level.
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Go buy a steel target, find some public land Get a holster 1000 rounds of ammo and go shoot,
It's harder to unlearn bad habits than it is to learn good ones.

Starting early with proper instruction will go a lot further than plinking in the middle of nowhere.
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It's harder to unlearn bad habits than it is to learn good ones.

Starting early with proper instruction will go a lot further than plinking in the middle of nowhere.
Wise words to heed.

Starting off with steel targets by itself is going to slow your progress. You are on the right track to look for a qualified instructor.
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A timer is even more important to practice with for daily dry fire practice. Just about anything you can practice with live fire, you can practice with dry fire. Draws, reloads, trigger press and isolation, transitions, movement etc.. all can be done dry and with a timer.
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Also, I'm digging the idea of that $25 intro class that was referenced in another post. Granted, it's geared towards USPSA, but it also gets you free entry to a USPSA match.
I think I am going to take the IDPA class at the Sac gun range. They seem to be promoting IDPA more. Richmond looks like they pretty much focus on USPSA, do about 6 IDPA club matches a year and no practice sessions.
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I would first get into shooting under stress and with a timer. I did this for 6 months, shot my first uspsa match, and painfully learned that there is so much more to the sport. Took a 2 year break to train before my next match, but that's on the extreme side.

Richmond hot shots is your best bet for uspsa, but the $25 intro course is really about safety and basic rules like not breaking the 180 and other things that'll get you DQ'ed. Reeds indoor range has a good introductory league on Mondays that will be a good interim training opportunity before getting into uspsa topics like exiting hard, coming in soft, and other non-marksmanship topics
I think I am going to hold off on USPSA for awhile. I think right now it is a bit too fast pace for me and I could see myself getting a bad taste in my mouth on competing. I think I am going to head to the Reed's one this coming Monday and check it out. Also might do the Sac IDPA class in Feb or March.
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Go buy a steel target, find some public land Get a holster 1000 rounds of ammo and go shoot,

Practice drawing you weapon from holster slowly, it should be a five count from 1 putting your hand on the butt to 5 acquiring the sights.
Sadly I don't know of any public land near the Bay Area in which I can just go out and shoot. But I do like this idea.
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It's harder to unlearn bad habits than it is to learn good ones.

Starting early with proper instruction will go a lot further than plinking in the middle of nowhere.
Agreed.
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OP you mentioned Ventura County. There is a place that would be similar distance to VC. Its Max Ordinate Academy. maxordinate.com
They have a Facebook page as well
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If you have a decent one you can set up "second beep" for practicing par time drawing at home.

The way it works is that you have initial random delay (1-4s) for the first beep, then a configured second beep at, say, 3 seconds later (this is ample time to get you started slowly). You get in ready position, press the button and wait for the beep. When you hear the beep, you draw, acquire sight picture and press the trigger. The game is to do it before the second beep.

As a warm up, before you start with the timer, you can do reps of individual elements of drawing. Look up online what the elements are so you can practice each one. Some are there for efficiency, some for safety. Don't ignore the safety ones (e.g., rotating barrel forward early).

Pay particular attention to when the finger enters the trigger guard. In excitement it's way too easy to try to "cheat" by getting finger in position too early and that *will* lead to the shot to the ground or worse.
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I think I am going to take the IDPA class at the Sac gun range. They seem to be promoting IDPA more. Richmond looks like they pretty much focus on USPSA, do about 6 IDPA club matches a year and no practice sessions.
Sacramento has a very active IDPA club. Richmond's is currently heading towards oblivion if new blood doesn't show up soon, but they are committed to finishing out the scheduled matches for 2017.

To the OP, I'm one of the New Competitor Class instructors at Richmond. I am a USPSA shooter, but I'm historically more of an IDPA shooter (although I am trying to change that). PM me if you are interested in paying for private instruction. I'm not a Master-class shooter, but I am a very experienced instructor for people looking to get involved in competitions.
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