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Celebrating my wifes birthday today in Napa, St Helena & Calistoga. Shopping, olive oil tasting, WoodHouse Chocolates and wine tasting & Lunch at V Satui. I didn't think today could get much better.....I was wrong. This is great news. 2012 is going to be a good year. Thank you CGF, SAF ( if you could see my smile )
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I don't see the 1-in-30 mentioned at all in this lawsuit.
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I had to explain the 10-day wait to my friend today.. he didn't understand why he needed a "cooling off" period when he already had registered guns at home. It's a stupid rule that is only in place to discorage and punish gun ownership.
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Of course, this is obviously just step 1.
South Carolina wants to have voter ID. The US Attorney General has opined that Quote:
(h/t to Instapundit)
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Get on'em CalGuns... Get ON'EM...!
Daggum stupid ridiculous asinine 10-Day waiting period... freaking HATE IT...!!!!!
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so has long as the system shows you own a firearm we shouldn't have to wait 10 days right? it seems that if
CGF wins here it won't go into effect until 2014. otherwise how will the system know you already own a firearm? currently only handguns are registered so that might be a problem. Sent from Los Alamos Nuclear Facility
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No.
And you do have a workaround on that - get a C&R & COE.
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In a perfect execution of this, just walk into a gun shop with a gun you own. California evidence code already says this is an indicator of ownership, etc
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No postings of mine here, unless otherwise specifically noted, are to be construed as formal or informal positions of the Calguns.Net ownership, The Calguns Foundation, Inc. ("CGF"), the NRA, or my employer. No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer. |
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Very very
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Good stuff. I just contributed to both CGF and SAF.
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If this does indeed telegraph a shift in the strategy, then I for one am glad that our side has the flexibility to do such a thing when needed. (It's almost Christmas, so I guess I'm feeling a bit more upbeat than usual. Enjoy it while it lasts. )
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I had never thought about that...I am going to start using that.
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I'm really looking forward to seeing CA try to defend this one. They will be tripping over themselves trying to come up with justification. Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
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i just cried a little.. merry xmas to us all.. since i see this as a precurser to killing "the list"
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Is this a "facial attack" or an "as-applied challenge" on the statute, and what's the difference? I've heard that the Roberts Court favors as-applied over facial. If that is so, why would that be? Erik. |
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Read closer.
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Well, CGF has finally done it, it got me to dust off the credit card and send a donation to the CGF.
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I thought my holiday season was going to be crappy this year because of needing to work through it, but this surprise really makes up for it. Woohoo! I think I need to send a little Festivus present to CGF!
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This made me laugh pretty good. So you DO know that there are those if us who look forward to reading the results of your skills at highlighting potential issues with or defects in our 2nd Amendment lawsuits. But certainly this in not a "shift in strategy." There are already similar CalGuns suits brought over the last few years. This is surely a continuation of ongoing strategy.
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As that South Carolina suit moves through the courts it probably won’t be legally linked to our Second Amendment litigation but it might set up a two-pronged fight for our Constitutional rights. It should certainly call attention to an administration that’s been trying to castrate our rights and bastardize our laws.
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You could always ask for your AFS report: http://oag.ca.gov/sites/oag.ca.gov/f...ateCitizen.pdf
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