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Old 12-22-2011, 12:25 PM
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Default Glock 25 / 28 .380 cal

Are Glock 25/28 now available in the US? I want one for my wife.
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:32 PM
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I dont believe so, unless something has drastically changed.

I think those are for euro market...
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Why on earth would you want a blow back 380 for your wife that is the same size as the full power 9mm?
The 380 will even recoil more then the 9mm.
Now if you want it as a collectors piece that is a totally different story.
There are very few in this country at this point and glock has no interest in starting production in the US. They are mostly sold in country's that can not have calibers used by the military.
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They are not available in the United States. In order to import handguns into the US you must meet BATFE import regulations. Basically it's a point system based on features, caliber, etc.

The .380 does not score enough points due its caliber. The Glocks with the same frame in larger calibers (G19/G26) in 9mm make it in.
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Why on earth would you want a blow back 380 for your wife that is the same size as the full power 9mm?
The 380 will even recoil more then the 9mm.
Now if you want it as a collectors piece that is a totally different story.
There are very few in this country at this point and glock has no interest in starting production in the US. They are mostly sold in country's that can not have calibers used by the military.
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How does one know the 380 will recoil more than the 9mm? Speculation or have you shot one?
My wife is not from this country, scared of guns more or less...she has shot my 9mm and didn't care much for it so now I'm moving down a notch..I don't want to get her a .22 cal and definately not a .25 or.32cal
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If anyone wants more info here is the ATF page on it.

ATF Form 4590 has all the listing of categories in which you can earn points.
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I want one for the novelty, but I'd think it would be a very poor choice for a carry gun.
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How does one know the 380 will recoil more than the 9mm? Speculation or have you shot one?
My wife is not from this country, scared of guns more or less...she has shot my 9mm and didn't care much for it so now I'm moving down a notch..I don't want to get her a .22 cal and definately not a .25 or.32cal
What size gun is your 9mm? It isn't the power of the cartridge that causes too much recoil/snap, its the ratio of power vs weight of the firearm. For example, I know several females who absolutely hate my Glock 26, because it snaps way too much for them. The same females love my Glock 17C, even though its practically the same gun, but just larger and heavier while firing the same cartridge (and compensated helps too).
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If you want a .308 look at bersa, or my perticular choice would be a sig....
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What size gun is your 9mm? It isn't the power of the cartridge that causes too much recoil/snap, its the ratio of power vs weight of the firearm. For example, I know several females who absolutely hate my Glock 26, because it snaps way too much for them. The same females love my Glock 17C, even though its practically the same gun, but just larger and heavier while firing the same cartridge (and compensated helps too).
HK USP full size 9mm
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My mistake was trying to teach her with my 9mm...I should of started her with a .22 and later the 9mm & 45's

The 380 will not be for defense but for target shooting in the hopes of getting to the 9mm/45acp for PP when I'm not home
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If you want a .308 look at bersa, or my perticular choice would be a sig....
Yeah, I think I will have to search around with other mfg's
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If you want a .308 look at bersa, or my perticular choice would be a sig....
They make a Glock in .308???
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ive always wondered why no company has made a kit- similar to guncrafter with the glock 20/21- for a glock 26 or 27. it seems like it would be something a company like lone wolf would be all over. for $250 id buy one.
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Yeah, I think I will have to search around with other mfg's
the 238 is a great gun also. i currently have 2 and all told i think ive owned 5 and all have been great. colt is making the mustang again but at $700 or so i dont know if ill pick one up.
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I would so be over the Glock 25, friend from Canada has one and Ive got to shoot it a few times, I just wish I could convince him to sell it to me!!!
As for the gun, it fits nice, and doesnt have as much snap as many would think, a pleasure to shoot, and its a glock.
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[QUOTE=Ding126;7714132]How does one know the 380 will recoil more than the 9mm? Speculation or have you shot one?
My wife is not from this country, scared of guns more or less...she has shot my 9mm and didn't care much for it so now I'm moving down a notch..I don't want to get her a .22 cal and definately not a .25 or.32cal[/QUOTE
The fact that it is a blow back design is the first clue.
No I have never fired a glock 25.
The information was straight from the Glock LE rep for the western states when I asked about the Glock 25 ever becoming available. If you ever have glock questions go to a GSSF event they are all a great bunch of guys and very willing to help you or just hang out and talk.
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how about a beretta 84 or 85 cheetah? 84 is a double stack mag and the 85 is a single stack, VERY nice pistol.

The grip of the 84 is great. Plus, there are 13 round mags available.
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I think the Glock 25 is the same size as the Glock 19/23.

In doing research on this I did find a .380 barrel that would fit into the Glock 19. The magazines are the same.

A little expensive however.. And it would come from CANADA.. Don't know if that would work.

http://sporteque.ca/category.php?id_category=55


http://sporteque.ca/product.php?id_product=769

Surprisingly .380 kicks more than 9MM in most handguns.

Start the wife out on 10MM THEN move her down to 9......hahaha

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If anyone wants more info here is the ATF page on it.

ATF Form 4590 has all the listing of categories in which you can earn points.
Wow... More sporting purpose BS. Hopefully that goes away soon.
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I don't want to get her a .22 cal ...
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The Gun Control Act of 1968 created the point system for importing handguns into the USA.

The .380ACP Glocks (25 & 28) do not merit enough points to be legal for importation to the USA for civilian sales.

However, .380ACP Glocks are in the USA. They are imported in for sale to LE agencies.
Some LE agencies acquired them as back-up/off-duty guns for their LEOs and after about a decade of use, some of those LE agencies have replaced them and have sold/traded them in for replacements. After exchanging a few hands (distributors/dealers), then end up for sale to the public.
Due to it's rarity, they command a hefty price ($700+) for being a used Glock.

Even though the .380ACP Glock magazines are the same external dimensions of the other calibered Glock magazines, the back of the .380ACP Glock magazines are reccessed to ensure reliable feeding of the shorter .380ACP cartridge. (see pic below)
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Very good information..thanks.!

I learn several new things everyday..

Bet those magazines are big bucks.

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The Gun Control Act of 1968 created the point system for importing handguns into the USA.

The .380ACP Glocks (25 & 28) do not merit enough points to be legal for importation to the USA for civilian sales.

However, .380ACP Glocks are in the USA. They are imported in for sale to LE agencies.
Some LE agencies acquired them as back-up/off-duty guns for their LEOs and after about a decade of use, some of those LE agencies have replaced them and have sold/traded them in for replacements. After exchanging a few hands (distributors/dealers), then end up for sale to the public.
Due to it's rarity, they command a hefty price ($700+) for being a used Glock.

Even though the .380ACP Glock magazines are the same external dimensions of the other calibered Glock magazines, the back of the .380ACP Glock magazines are reccessed to ensure reliable feeding of the shorter .380ACP cartridge. (see pic below)
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However, .380ACP Glocks are in the USA. They are imported in for sale to LE agencies.
Good info Quiet, was unaware they were imported for LE agencies.
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I think the Glock 25 is the same size as the Glock 19/23.

In doing research on this I did find a .380 barrel that would fit into the Glock 19. The magazines are the same.

A little expensive however.. And it would come from CANADA.. Don't know if that would work.

http://sporteque.ca/category.php?id_category=55


http://sporteque.ca/product.php?id_product=769

Surprisingly .380 kicks more than 9MM in most handguns.

Start the wife out on 10MM THEN move her down to 9......hahaha

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Yea that would be a neat idea, but I thought the .380 was simple blow back on the model 25/28? Would it actually work?

I dont need that particular model, let alone caliber but I wish the Gov didnt not allow it to be purchased.
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.380 is Un-American. 9mm is the USA round, thank NATO.
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Yea that would be a neat idea, but I thought the .380 was simple blow back on the model 25/28? Would it actually work?
The .380ACP Glocks (25 & 28) are internally different and operate as a straight blowback pistol.
Not sure how reliable the aftermarket .380ACP conversion kits are.

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.380 is Un-American. 9mm is the USA round, thank NATO.
The .380ACP Glocks were originally made for countries that restrict their citizens in the ability to own handguns that are chambered in calibers that the Gov/Mil/LE uses.
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The .380ACP Glocks (25 & 28) are internally different and operate as a straight blowback pistol.
Not sure how reliable the aftermarket .380ACP conversion kits are.
Yea I figured. I mean I would think it wouldn't work but who knows.
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