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Old 06-25-2017, 3:10 PM
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Hi,

I have a hankering for a 10mm that is not a Glock. That leaves the 2 Kimber that are on the roster. Anybody have any direct experience with either of these?

I like the 1911 format so that is not an issue.

Thanks in advance.
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I'm trying to justify the purchase of a 10mm next year, so I'll probably order a case or two of ammo before end of year. I don't really like Glocks, but I respect them, and as much as the G20 would make sense, the 1911 is so much more aesthetically interesting - I'd also like to know what people have to say ( or point me in the direction of someone who is roster exempt who just bought a Ruger or SIG and wanted to sell it )
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10mm is one of the (many) areas where we get SCREWED by the roster
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I have one and love it.

Here is an older thread with some pictures after it came back from Wilson Combat.
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I used to have a Colt Delta Elite. I liked it. I sold it because I did not want to deal with an extra caliber.
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I have read yays and nays about the quality of Kimber, would be curious to get to shoot one. I have a Delta Elite and a hand loaded 10mm is awesome!!
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10mm is expensive to plink. I got a G20sf so I could hunt and carry it. No point in a fancy 10mm.
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I've got one, stainless Target II, works fine.

Not quite as accurate as my Delta Gold Cup but better than my G20.
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i got the eclipse 2 its awesome
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Eh not a fan of the Kimber, if you want one in a 1911 style frame, Newer cold delta elite (try to find someone to do a PPT) or a Dan Wesson. Ugh, wish we could get the Sig 1911 in 10mm, that i'd buy in a heartbeat.
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10mm is hard on standard 5" and shorter pistols. That's why long slides are the trend if you want to hunt. You got STI, R1, Dan Wesson, RIA, Fusion and Glock. The Glock 40 MOS with a 9" Lone Wolf barrel will be a very nice set up, but the STI Perfect 10 and DW Bruin will be my bet for accuracy.
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I have the Stainless target II. I also wanted a non-Glock 10mm. Mine strugled with FTF, premature slide lock back, and sights falling off and apart. As it was only a range toy, I allowed 500 rounds of break in before returning it to Kimber for repairs. After it came back I installed a 24# recoil spring and shok-buff from Wilson Combat.

During my last range trip with the Kimber, it was flawless.
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Sounds to me like Glock is the no-fuss way to go... I just want real .357 performance in a pistol (and not that poser SIG round, either).
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To get true 10mm performance you'll have to either reload or carefully select your ammunition. Most commercial 10mm loadings are at the .40 S&W level (the "poser 10mm").
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To get true 10mm performance you'll have to either reload or carefully select your ammunition. Most commercial 10mm loadings are at the .40 S&W level (the "poser 10mm").
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Their hollow points or Xtreme rounds seem to have the most velocity. 1600-1700 fps. FMJ/TMJ is the slowest.
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Ruger just came out with a 1911 in 10mm.
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Sounds to me like Glock is the no-fuss way to go... I just want real .357 performance in a pistol (and not that poser SIG round, either).
And you can convert back and forth with 45. Two guns in one. At least that was my intention when I settled on a 21SF. But, with most factory 10mm loads, your basically shooting 40sw. Hard to justify the higher cost for ammunition.
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10mm is hard on standard 5" and shorter pistols. That's why long slides are the trend if you want to hunt. You got STI, R1, Dan Wesson, RIA, Fusion and Glock. The Glock 40 MOS with a 9" Lone Wolf barrel will be a very nice set up, but the STI Perfect 10 and DW Bruin will be my bet for accuracy.
And how many of those are on the DOJ roster?

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Ruger just came out with a 1911 in 10mm.
Not on roster. Moot.
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Thanks all.

Agree that the roster sucks; I wonder how many people in other states have been hurt by guns just going off by themselves? But I digress.

Sounds like the Eclipse might be worth investigating.

I have plenty of Glocks so just want tomtry something different this time.
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10mm is expensive to plink. I got a G20sf so I could hunt and carry it. No point in a fancy 10mm.

If you reload, 10mm is only a penny or two more than 40S&W. Primer and bullet costs are the same for 40S&W and 10mm. The 10 uses large pistol primers while the 40 uses small pistol primers, but the cost per 100 is the same. 10mm reloads will use slightly more powder.


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I have one. shot flawlessly last range trip. friends all loved it, they said it looks and shoots great. I have the eclipse model.

i saw the range model at turners used for 800 a few weeks ago and almost bought it so I could have a matching pair.
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Thanks all.

Agree that the roster sucks; I wonder how many people in other states have been hurt by guns just going off by themselves? But I digress.

Sounds like the Eclipse might be worth investigating.

I have plenty of Glocks so just want tomtry something different this time.
I bought the Eclipse a few months back, haven't put many rounds though it. Mine came with a bad extractor - not properly finished, sharp edge instead of a slight bevel and way too much tension. Easy to fix but still. I don't care for the Schwartz safety. Granted it's activated by the grip safety so there's no effect on trigger pull. I switched out the firing pin to a Series 70 & lightened the FP block spring. Which reminds me - the trigger pull wasn't very good. Gritty, creepy and too long. I replaced it with a Wilson.

I think Kimber could have spent a bit more time on the QC end, the FP block is probably inconsequential.
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I have a hankering for a 10mm that is not a Glock. That leaves the 2 Kimber that are on the roster. Anybody have any direct experience with either of these?



I like the 1911 format so that is not an issue.



Thanks in advance.


With range loads the G20 is fine. With the Underwood ammo you can really feel the kick and muzzle flip. I've got an S&W 1006 that handles the higher pressure loads better. The Kimber might be a better choice if you plan on using full power ammo. For a range toy the Glock makes more sense.


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Buddy bought one. Expensive gun. It jams a lot. Nice trigger though. But the jamming (not returning to battery, empty shell getting hung up during ejection, etc.), makes me not trust it. Was worse before breaking in but after 500 rounds it's still doing it every few magazines.
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Buddy bought one. Expensive gun. It jams a lot. Nice trigger though. But the jamming (not returning to battery, empty shell getting hung up during ejection, etc.), makes me not trust it. Was worse before breaking in but after 500 rounds it's still doing it every few magazines.
Wolff 10% (or 5%, not sure) extra power mag springs helped mine alot. I like MecGar in general, but their 10 mm 1911 springs seem a bit shy.
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Hi,

I have a hankering for a 10mm that is not a Glock. That leaves the 2 Kimber that are on the roster. Anybody have any direct experience with either of these?

I like the 1911 format so that is not an issue.

Thanks in advance.
I've had a Custom Eclipse II for about 6 years now and it has a couple thousand rounds through it. It is accurate and reliable so far. In addition, it has a beautiful black stainless finish that I really like. It's worth the money.
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I am not a "Glock guy". Having said that I would chose a Glock 20 SF over any other 10mm pistol.
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10mm is hard on standard 5" and shorter pistols. That's why long slides are the trend if you want to hunt. You got STI, R1, Dan Wesson, RIA, Fusion and Glock. The Glock 40 MOS with a 9" Lone Wolf barrel will be a very nice set up, but the STI Perfect 10 and DW Bruin will be my bet for accuracy.
A nine inch barrel in a Long slide G20 or G40 would be huge . But interesting . A longslide gets in the way a bit couldnt imagine hiking /hunting or fishing with a extra 3 inches of barrel . I looked at similar offerings as Op I decided on the G20 .
Reasons being
G40 wasn't offered at the time . Wouldn't pay the CA prices anyway .
I don't always carry the Longslide switch to standard slide often
The after market support for Glock
No one has a more reliable 10mm
At the time 15 rd or 33 rd mags
My Kimber in 45 ACP was a pos
Am able to shot 40 S@w with no mods to the Glock .
With a 22 lb spring my long slide will eat anything from 40s@w to anything Underwood offers.
It is by far my Favorite Pistol .
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I love the 10mm but be aware, ammo is not cheap especially if you want full power loads. I carry mine when I go hiking and as a back up on hunts (sometimes). .357 power in semi auto, what's not to like? Reload And the cost of ammo is negligible. I have g20 and kimber eclipse. Kimber is a far superior shooter with excellent trigger and the glock is,,,,,well a glock! Indestructible, I rough handle it and don't care if it gets banged up while hiking. If I need to take a shot at a moving target, kimber is superior. Very good weapon
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