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Old 11-23-2011, 9:26 PM
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Default What is a good mid range med priced scope for ar15

I have a Daniel defense AR 15.
Gun store tried to sell me a eotech 512. I liked it, just not sure I want to
Spend around 400.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
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Old 11-23-2011, 9:47 PM
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An eotech isn't really a "scope". Do you want a red dot, or a magnified scope?
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Old 11-23-2011, 9:51 PM
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Mid range price or scope for mid range shooting?
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:10 PM
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Not sure to both prior posters questions.
I'm open, although I thought there was some magnification with the eotech.
I'm trying not to spend too much $.
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Old 11-23-2011, 10:50 PM
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This is just an opinion, but it's based on some experience.
I would avoid red dots and Eotechs altogether unless you have access to a range that allows tactical style shooting. Otherwise it'll get boring really fast.
A few months ago I was loaned the latest/greatest Eotech and thought I was going to have a blast with it. But once I got it out to the range and started shooting, I realized that it was really no better than shooting with irons, except that I got to look at a really cool light. If you can't move around while you're shooting and take advantage of the strengths of a non magnified sight like that, it's just...useless. You'd be better off with something variable like a 1-4x or 3-9x if you're just going out and shooting steel or paper off a bench.
I started with irons and got good with those first, and then move on to magnified optics. The fun factor was greatly increased because not only did my range increase, but I could actually see what I was hitting.

How much are you looking to spend on an optic?
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:27 AM
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Droppin, thanks for the input!
I'm looking to spend about 350
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Old 11-24-2011, 1:38 AM
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No problem. I had the same question when I first got into it and had about the same price range. Remember, you're going to want to factor in the price of a scope mount as well.
Check out the a Leupold Mark AR 3-9x with mil dot reticle. Nikon makes a very similar scope called the M-223 which I understand is also outstanding, but I chose the Leupold for the mil dot reticle which I think makes it more versatile, and as you learn becomes a great tool.
You can typically find both of those scopes with a decent Burris mount sold as a package for around $375-$400(look at swfa.com)
Both Nikon and Leupod make 1-4x versions as well.

Someone should chime in with other suggestions, but those are the two that I would suggest.
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Old 11-24-2011, 3:17 AM
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I have this 1 - 4 x Burris Mtac. You can use it for close range and it has magnification for longer distances.
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Look at a Zeiss, "exile machine" who is a member here has them on sale. I walked into Cabelas yesterday and bought one. This scope is awesome.
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I like the look of the short stocky scopes, any recs? I think they are easier to use on an AR verses a full length scope (I think it also looks nicer).
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I have a Daniel defense AR 15.
Gun store tried to sell me a eotech 512. I liked it, just not sure I want to
Spend around 400.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Bushnell makes one like it (IIRC eotech uses Bushnell guts) that's not armored for ~$300


don't go cheep on glass, glass makes the rifle, for an optic with magnification, I would go with the SS 10X again around $300 good out to 300 yards or so, though I have rang gongs consistently out at 600 with mine
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Old 11-24-2011, 12:07 PM
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Where are you located? I have a couple of low budget sub $100 scopes/holo/red dots you can play with. Wouldnt recommend any of them, but at least you can try/get an idea of what type/style you might like/need. Norcal east bay. USI is 10 minutes away from my house.
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This is just an opinion, but it's based on some experience.
I would avoid red dots and Eotechs altogether unless you have access to a range that allows tactical style shooting. Otherwise it'll get boring really fast.
A few months ago I was loaned the latest/greatest Eotech and thought I was going to have a blast with it. But once I got it out to the range and started shooting, I realized that it was really no better than shooting with irons, except that I got to look at a really cool light. If you can't move around while you're shooting and take advantage of the strengths of a non magnified sight like that, it's just...useless. You'd be better off with something variable like a 1-4x or 3-9x if you're just going out and shooting steel or paper off a bench.
I started with irons and got good with those first, and then move on to magnified optics. The fun factor was greatly increased because not only did my range increase, but I could actually see what I was hitting.

How much are you looking to spend on an optic?
Listen to him, He has some sense.
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$40. 4x20mm leapers. this scope is awesome. comes with mount, rings, and covers. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/724...op-mount-matte
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Anyone have experience with this scope?
http://www.blacktydetactical.com/ist...product_id=147
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http://www.samplelist.com/Leupold-25...O-C-P3706.aspx

http://www.samplelist.com/Nikon-25-1...O-B-P3659.aspx

http://www.samplelist.com/Sightron-3...O-B-P3357.aspx

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No problem. I had the same question when I first got into it and had about the same price range. Remember, you're going to want to factor in the price of a scope mount as well.
Check out the a Leupold Mark AR 3-9x with mil dot reticle. Nikon makes a very similar scope called the M-223 which I understand is also outstanding, but I chose the Leupold for the mil dot reticle which I think makes it more versatile, and as you learn becomes a great tool.
You can typically find both of those scopes with a decent Burris mount sold as a package for around $375-$400(look at swfa.com)
Both Nikon and Leupod make 1-4x versions as well.

Someone should chime in with other suggestions, but those are the two that I would suggest.
Yup, Droppin Deuces is really on target with both of his posts.

I personally have learned some lessons the hard way. So, I recommend buying the best scope you can afford in whatever power you decide to get. I think a variable scope is more versitile than a fixed power scope. I think you should stick with manufacturers that have good names and back their products.

Good scopes retain their value and can be resold if you deide to get a different type. Lousy scopes lose their value almost immediately, so they are a waste.

Here are a couple suggestions. I personally do not know much about these scopes, but they are 2-8X which is a nice compact size and the first one is a Nikon Monarch (some of Nikons better scopes) with a very usable BDC reticle.

http://swfa.com/Nikon-2-8x32-Monarch...pe-P11158.aspx

This one comes WITH A SCOPE MOUNT, and it is made for an AR rifle (I assume that's what you want). It is also a 2-8X with a BDC reticle. Pretty good deal for a starter scope from a brand name.

http://swfa.com/Nikon-2-8x32-M223-Ri...it-P47974.aspx

I like 2-8x as it is a good flexible balance between close range and mid-range. They are also compact and not too heavy. A really good size to learn with. Fun and flexible.

Good luck

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