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Old 11-13-2011, 9:07 PM
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Default Glock 19 or Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm?

Thinking of trading my Glock 19 for a M&P. For whatever reason I love my Glock but feels funky in my hand which causes me to shoot to the left. I've adjusted my grip, try different styles, but never the less it feels uncomfortable. I put a M&P in my hand and it felt great, just never shot one yet.... What do you all think, is this a fair trade, or a down grade?

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Old 11-13-2011, 9:12 PM
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Yes, I think its an upgrade, the m&p 9 fits my hand perfectly and even offers adjustable backstraps if it diddnt fit me; lighter trigger and better looks imo
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Old 11-13-2011, 10:56 PM
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I like the M&P way more.

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m&p 9 you wont regret it
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Glock 19...
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Old 11-15-2011, 6:32 AM
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I've owned my G19 since 03. I loved it ever since. I recent got into MP9s and it keeps feeling better and better. But now I keep going back a forth with the two. I love both. For me, I say keep the G19 and add the MP9 to your collection.
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The S&W MP series are fine weapons, as are Glocks but if you are shooting consistently to the left you need to reapply yourself to mastering your fundamentals.

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Old 11-15-2011, 6:42 AM
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I own several Glocks and recently held a M&P as well and I can tell you this. I will not be getting rid of my Glocks but I will be adding some M&P's to the collection.
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Old 11-15-2011, 6:47 AM
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I like my M&P 40, feels better than my friends G23
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Old 11-16-2011, 6:41 PM
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I bought a M&P a few months back hoping to replace my Glock 19. After shooting both guns I sold the M&P.
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The S&W MP series are fine weapons, as are Glocks but if you are shooting consistently to the left you need to reapply yourself to mastering your fundamentals.

Fix the software before you go looking for the hardware solution.
I only shoot to the left with my Glock... I mean all guns are accruate it's the shooter. I get that, but the Glock doesn't feel comfortable in my hand, and battle that everytime I grip the pistol.
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I like my M&P 40, feels better than my friends G23
Yeah I've only handle the gun at the range, but it feels way comfortable... I'm going to rent one to see if it shoot as good as it feels in my hand.
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Old 11-16-2011, 7:50 PM
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I have both, and I prefer the M&P. Not saying anything bad about the Glock.
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[QUOTE=97F1504RAD;7500948]I own several Glocks and recently held a M&P as well and I can tell you this. I will not be getting rid of my Glocks but I will be adding some M&P's to the collection.[/

Yeah I hope this weapon shoots as great as it feels. Going to find out this weekend!
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I bought a M&P a few months back hoping to replace my Glock 19. After shooting both guns I sold the M&P.
What made you get rid of the M&P if you don't mind me asking?
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Old 11-16-2011, 7:56 PM
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Fair trade...IMO
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What made you get rid of the M&P if you don't mind me asking?
There were a few things that I didn't like about the M&P. To field strip the gun you had the use the frame tool to lower the sear deactivation lever to release the slide. Also, to get to the safety plunger you had to take off the rear sight. The Glock was just more "simple".
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There were a few things that I didn't like about the M&P. To field strip the gun you had the use the frame tool to lower the sear deactivation lever to release the slide. Also, to get to the safety plunger you had to take off the rear sight. The Glock was just more "simple".
I've never had to use the frame tool. I rotate the takedown lever then let the slide forward. I insert an empty magazine partway then pull the trigger and the slide comes right off.
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I would go with what fits your hand the best. But aslo your local range should have a M&P9 to rent. Try it out, and see how you like it.
I used to have a G23 and I hated the grip also, I added a beaver tail grip adapter and it helped some what but still, wanted something better.
I have since settled with a Beretta 92FS (I know totally different guns-steel/polymer ect.) But its something that fits my hand much better. good luck on your quest.
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I don't really like both after I tried a rental Glock 19 and I bought the M&P 9 to try it out. The M&P feels good in my hand at the gun shop but did not perform quite as well at the range. It kicks more and I can't keep the grouping as tight as my other pistols. My grouping is smaller with the first mag out of my friend's FNP 9.
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Old 11-20-2011, 7:34 PM
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the stock glock trigger is better than the stock m&p trigger. you can buy an after market trigger for the m&p (apex). m&p feels better, but i like and have both.
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Old 11-20-2011, 7:40 PM
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I don't really like both after I tried a rental Glock 19 and I bought the M&P 9 to try it out. The M&P feels good in my hand at the gun shop but did not perform quite as well at the range. It kicks more and I can't keep the grouping as tight as my other pistols. My grouping is smaller with the first mag out of my friend's FNP 9.
My M&P 9c is very accurate. Not everyone can shoot every gun. rent a few and see what you like.
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Old 11-20-2011, 7:46 PM
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Old 11-20-2011, 9:10 PM
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Really depends on how it feels for you. I've shot both and they both shoot well, but the M&P feels so much better in my hand which makes me shoot it better.

I just went with an M&P for a 9mm which is also beneficial as I'm a lefty and the M&P is fully ambidextrous.
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Shoot before you buy. In 9mm, Glock works better for me. Better trigger out of the box and more accurate when I get beyond 15 yards. If I were going to buy an M&P of any type. I would put an apex trigger on it. If I bought a 9mm, I would also get the apex/bar-sto match grade barrel due out next year.

IMHO, the M&P works really well in .45 and pretty well in .40, but not as well in 9mm and all the ones I've shot need trigger work.
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i don't own, nor have i shot the M&P.

i have owned the G19 in the past, and own an OD G19 now. the G19 has always been responsive to what i've wanted from it. it offers utterly reliability with good accuracy for a compact semi auto; what i'd expect to get from a defensive handgun. the ergonomics of the gun work for me.

shoot the M&P before purchasing/trading. it may be just the ticket for you. give one a workout and see how it goes.
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Old 11-20-2011, 11:26 PM
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I'm on my phone so I can't see where you're from. If you're in the Fresno area I can let you shoot mine. Look at my avatar, ill let you try any of those so that you can make up your mind. I like, no, I love my M&Ps

I sold my glock but I don't think ill sell my s.w.
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I love the fit of the M&P in my hands I bought one and I was really excited to pick it up. With all that said I just couldn't get used to the trigger reset its really long and there is no feel and because of user error I constantly short stroked the trigger.

I put about 600 rounds through it and sold it I'm not sure why your not looking at the 17 since their both full size handguns. I wasn't ok with buying a +/- $550 dollar firearm and having to dump another $150 dollars in trigger upgrades so I could shoot it like my Glock YMMV.
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I've got 1000+ rounds through my M&P and it's performed flawlessly..
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Does your finger reach the trigger properly on the GLOCK? I'm all about picking a platform and training yourself to it, but sometimes things just don't fit.
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I've owned and shot various Glocks for over 10 years which was the main platform I've owned/shot/trained with and now standardized on the M&P platform which I shoot as well but is much more ergonomic. IMO, you can't go wrong with either platform but neither are perfect in my eyes and both need some work. But that's how I feel about every production gun.
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It's up to you OP. There are more aftermarket parts, support and little goodies for glocks. If the Glock just plain doesn't fit your hands and you cant hit a barn right in front of you, dont keep it. I grew up shooting Sigs and SW (3rd gens) and Beretta's and revolvers. Needless to say, if you like the feel of the SW get it. I'd recommend shooting it first if you can. I personally didn't like the feel of the M&P, but I know its decent, I saw a bunch of departments switched to them over the glock. I found that article a while ago, I think most were east coast or something.

I never had a problem with the grip angle ever, if I anything I like it alot.
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I love the fit of the M&P in my hands I bought one and I was really excited to pick it up. With all that said I just couldn't get used to the trigger reset its really long and there is no feel and because of user error I constantly short stroked the trigger.

I put about 600 rounds through it and sold it I'm not sure why your not looking at the 17 since their both full size handguns. I wasn't ok with buying a +/- $550 dollar firearm and having to dump another $150 dollars in trigger upgrades so I could shoot it like my Glock YMMV.

You do not have to spend $150, if you just want a shorter reset than just buy the sear for $39.95 but you will also end up with about a ~4# pull add in the duty springs for $20 if you want it back to about ~5.5 pounds. The full DCAEK is $89.95 unless you buy it from Brownells with a discount and the RAM is $22.95.


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I love the fit of the M&P in my hands I bought one and I was really excited to pick it up. With all that said I just couldn't get used to the trigger reset its really long and there is no feel and because of user error I constantly short stroked the trigger.

I put about 600 rounds through it and sold it I'm not sure why your not looking at the 17 since their both full size handguns. I wasn't ok with buying a +/- $550 dollar firearm and having to dump another $150 dollars in trigger upgrades so I could shoot it like my Glock YMMV.
I think that is one of the biggest problems with the M&P line. However, I'd rather spend $550 on a new M&P and then spend another $150 for the Apex parts than buy a new Glock and a new connector. The Glock route is cheaper but the M&P route gives me a very ergonomic gun with a great trigger. I could probably get a great trigger in a Glock but unless I spend even more money on some sort of grip reduction on the Glock I am stuck with a brick of a gun. I still own a Glock 19 but I'll take the more expensive M&P/Apex option every day.
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I think that is one of the biggest problems with the M&P line. However, I'd rather spend $550 on a new M&P and then spend another $150 for the Apex parts than buy a new Glock and a new connector. The Glock route is cheaper but the M&P route gives me a very ergonomic gun with a great trigger. I could probably get a great trigger in a Glock but unless I spend even more money on some sort of grip reduction on the Glock I am stuck with a brick of a gun. I still own a Glock 19 but I'll take the more expensive M&P/Apex option every day.


Ponder this, what's the cost and turn around to modify Glock ergonomics for those that want to change it? For the work I want done correctly on a Glock it would be over $245 and get it back ?????
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Ponder this, what's the cost and turn around to modify Glock ergonomics for those that want to change it? For the work I want done correctly on a Glock it would be over $245 and get it back ?????
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Oh, no. I completely agree. Even then the grip angle wouldn't be the same as the M&Ps and I still couldn't swap around palm swells to fit various shooters.
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I love the fit of the M&P in my hands I bought one and I was really excited to pick it up. With all that said I just couldn't get used to the trigger reset its really long and there is no feel and because of user error I constantly short stroked the trigger.

I put about 600 rounds through it and sold it I'm not sure why your not looking at the 17 since their both full size handguns. I wasn't ok with buying a +/- $550 dollar firearm and having to dump another $150 dollars in trigger upgrades so I could shoot it like my Glock YMMV.
I don't find the trigger reset long at all (M&P .45 duty weapon) and I own two Glocks (17 and 26, and the 17 has a 3.5 connector.)

It's a fine duty weapon. I've only carried it two months and I have 800+ rounds though it. Other than a fail to chamber in my first 50 rounds, I've had no malfunctions.
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