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View Poll Results: Would you kill and eat another human being to feed your family in a collapse
Yes 39 21.31%
No 85 46.45%
Yes, but only if they were strangers 18 9.84%
Never under any circumstances, I would kill myself before resorting to cannibalism 26 14.21%
Why wait, let's dig in and grab some good eats while everyone is healthy. 25 13.66%
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Over history there have been documented examples of humans turning to cannibalism, some to survive life threatening situations, religious beliefs and others who are the sickest and most depraved psychopaths the world has known.

Fortunately, few if any of us on this board have experienced real starvation, so much of this is conjecture and done on a full belly. The one resource this planet has in abundance is people. We've been successful at reproducing at an accelerated rate, much more than natural balance and we find ourselves at a point in history where resources, supply chains, manipulated crops are on a razors edge of efficiency. What happens when the music stops and there are no chairs left for millions without food ?

Do you think, in a true collapse of society, could you kill and eat a human being to keep your family alive ?
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are you talking 100% human meat, or mixed in with some other animal meat to make sausage?
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I also would not eat my family pet as I stated in an earlier post, but I also would not outright kill a living person for food, although I would take advantage of the recently deceased stranger (no one I know) if there were fresh enough.
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are you talking 100% human meat, or mixed in with some other animal meat to make sausage?
100% Human meat in any form you'd like. The supply of wild and domesticated animals would feed the US population for 2-3 months at best, so you can't expect much in the way of another source of meat.

Don't forget, the family pet is also a force multiplier, being on guard 24/7, companionship, protection, so I'd have a hard time eating a loyal member of the family who's got my back.

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Nobody can truly answer the question, since they have never experienced the situation.

The people at Donner Pass likely would not have answer affirmatively, until it happened.
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Nobody can truly answer the question, since they have never experienced the situation.

The people at Donner Pass likely would not have answer affirmatively, until it happened.

By that rational you can't imagine being with 3 hot girls at one time or being weightless in space or any other fantasy ? I'm assuming most here haven't accomplished those events either but we can imagine.

I agree that it's difficult to imagine a scenario where we're having to kill and eat another human. Look at the starving people in Jamestown 1620 who resorted to cannibalism to survive. Then you have millions of starving North Koreans who are eating tree bark and grass to survive.

Still, the question is, would you kill and eat a human being to avoid dying and watching your family die from starvation ?

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Good luck with that one. Humans are made of meat and requires meat protein to survive long term. Vegetarians and vegans have more illness and are less robust at surviving than meat eaters. Then you have the problem of having to wait months for a crop to grow and the competition from other starving people who are looking to feed their families.
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Nobody can truly answer the question, since they have never experienced the situation.

The people at Donner Pass likely would not have answer affirmatively, until it happened.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Also, the Uruguayan rugby team that crashed in the Andes made the decision. A bunch of them were pretty religious also, iirc.
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I start sharpening the knives when the cable goes out.

Just sayin'.
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Our family was filling out a health directive document recently, we were laughing that when we die, my 14 year old will be rolling in cash. So I was complaining about a splinter when my son says "well.....it looks like we'll have to put you to sleep and end your suffering".
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Donner party said tastes like chicken!
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Good luck with that one. Humans are made of meat and requires meat protein to survive long term. Vegetarians and vegans have more illness and are less robust at surviving than meat eaters. Then you have the problem of having to wait months for a crop to grow and the competition from other starving people who are looking to feed their families.
Protein can be had from plenty of sources. Granted you must grow them or harvest them (such as eggs and beans).

There's plenty of cultures throughout history that have maintained a voluntary vegetarian diet and have thrived.

I have been a vegetarian for 20 years now. It's a diet that I think would be foolish to attempt to maintain if SHTF. If SHTF, I would immediately start integrating small portions of meat into my diet to acclimate my system to meat.

To OP's question... that's a though provoking question. I'm going to say no, I would not hunt, kill and eat a human. Now if someone attacked me and was killed in self-defense AND I was on the brink of starvation (ie death or cannibalism) then probably.
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What would it be like?
Here's a link to an article about the siege of Leningrad during WWII:
http://articles.latimes.com/1994-01-...0-day-blockade
I can't imagine the horror of that city's long starvation.
Glad I live where it's warm.
I'd eat bugs for protein, probably try to breed them.
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People generally taste like salty bacon depending (don't ask how I know, long story lol), so why not.

That said, it would have to be the very LAST resort for survival, I mean like the ONLY thing to eat. Most people disgust me just from a hygiene standpoint so it's difficult to get past that. I'm sure by the time I got to the point of needing to eat a person though, I'd be way over it haha!

This would really be a stretch, there are lots of sources of food.
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Roll your own... Democrat-pushed planned parenthood is WAY too wasteful.

You're not far from the truth. Back in the mid 80's an ex-girlfriend was an OB/GYN RN, she was hired by a Chinese hospital to help train surgical nurses. She spent 1 year in Shanghai, the working conditions were pretty good and she was having a great time.

Then one day a doctor from the hospital took her to an abortion clinic and she said it was something out of a horror movie. I ****e you not, the nurses at the abortion clinic told her they put the aborted fetuses in a blender and made soup out of babies. Apparently this was a common practice at many of the abortion clinics because the access to healthy food was not available.

Afterwards my girlfriend noticed how all of the nurses who worked at the abortion clinic had the most beautiful skin and hair and they had a glow about them, not seen among the average person. She was offered some of this soup but declined.
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i have recently had this conversation with my close family. If it came down to it, we sure as heck would eat another human. Not family but some other person.

I bet most of the people here saying they wouldnt actually would IF it meant death to their children or SO.

The need for survival is strong and although we wouldnt want to we would need to.
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Protein can be had from plenty of sources. Granted you must grow them or harvest them (such as eggs and beans).

There's plenty of cultures throughout history that have maintained a voluntary vegetarian diet and have thrived.

I have been a vegetarian for 20 years now. It's a diet that I think would be foolish to attempt to maintain if SHTF. If SHTF, I would immediately start integrating small portions of meat into my diet to acclimate my system to meat.

To OP's question... that's a though provoking question. I'm going to say no, I would not hunt, kill and eat a human. Now if someone attacked me and was killed in self-defense AND I was on the brink of starvation (ie death or cannibalism) then probably.
Very few people live in an area where all the necessary vegetarian foodstuff required for a healthy diet can be grown. It has become much easier to maintain a vegetarian lifestyle with the availability of shipping systems that deliver a large variety of vegetables to areas that either don't have the seasons to grow them, or the soil conditions to grow them.

If the transportation system shut down, then you had better have a large amount of stored veggies, or you will definitely be needing meat protein.
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Very few people live in an area where all the necessary vegetarian foodstuff required for a healthy diet can be grown. It has become much easier to maintain a vegetarian lifestyle with the availability of shipping systems that deliver a large variety of vegetables to areas that either don't have the seasons to grow them, or the soil conditions to grow them.

If the transportation system shut down, then you had better have a large amount of stored veggies, or you will definitely be needing meat protein.
I don't think you read my whole post that you quoted. I said my plan if S really does HTF I will start integrating meat into my diet (small portions at first) immediately. I do not expect to maintain a vegetarian diet if SHTF.
Also eggs are my primary form of protein right now (I love eggs!). As soon as I move to a new house, keeping chickens is a top priority.

My point was simply that are plenty of examples of cultures in the world historically that have maintained a vegetarian diet and thrived. Mostly in India and Asia.
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Don't eat the brain or internal organs to lessen then chances of getting Kuru?:
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