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Old 11-03-2011, 12:40 AM
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Sure, they're "only" squirrel... but still...

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I'd say

A) you make scope "clicks" (adjustments to those of us non-retards) on the range

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B)if your not going to learn how to shoot well, get an auto loader to help ease suffering.
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It doesn't look to me like the squirrels are suffering. I've hunted squirrel before and more than any other rodent they really seem to have their nerves go haywire after being killed. However he really is a poor shot to have missed his first 1 at 40 yards. Although cute, squirrels can be a nuisance and suffer from overpopulation in areas.
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The last squirrel shot crawls off with a broken back, rear legs dragging. going through that guys youtube videos, he seems like a POS.
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The last squirrel shot crawls off with a broken back, rear legs dragging. going through that guys youtube videos, he seems like a POS.
Hello,

This is mainly what I'm getting at.

I love to squirrel hunt -- but c'mon, unless you're starving, give fair chase. If you are starving, better off trapping them with snares.

Also, don't be spending money on video cameras and internet.

He gives all ethical hunters bad names.

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It doesn't even look like he was using proper JHP ammos. I don't hunt, but I have nailed a squirrel once or twice with some CCI Minimags, and the results were markedly different, even with less than ideal hits. This was deplorable, I think that even these vermin/pest/whatever you want to call them deserve a proper and prompt death, not "hey ima sever his spine and let him go" crap.
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It doesn't look to me like the squirrels are suffering. I've hunted squirrel before and more than any other rodent they really seem to have their nerves go haywire after being killed. However he really is a poor shot to have missed his first 1 at 40 yards. Although cute, squirrels can be a nuisance and suffer from overpopulation in areas.
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I love to squirrel hunt -- but c'mon, unless you're starving, give fair chase. If you are starving, better off trapping them with snares.
I also agree with the above statement. I personally feel that hunting over a baited area is messed up. However, in many states hunting over bait is perfectly legal. Many view it as ethical as well, many do not. It's a personal belief and to each his/her own. Here in Cali, it's not legal for any game to be hunted over bait. I'm assuming, he's in a state where it's legal, so that's that. Some agree with baiting, some dont.

One other point and that is snares can be viewed by many as a "cruel and slow" death as well. Personally, I don't find it offensive to use traps (snares), that's been a part of the American (hunting) fabric before America was even "America."

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It doesn't even look like he was using proper JHP ammos.
Regarding the above statement, I too thought the exact same thing. Those that haven't hunted or shot squirrels much may not be aware that killing a squirrel is tough with a solid .22LR bullet. In fact, I believe they are a much hardier animal to kill quickly than a larger rabbit. Those squirrels are tough as the "Terminator!" For killing small rodents and pests, one should absolutely use HP's because it's a much quicker death, albeit messy.

My opinion however is that if one is killing squirrels for food, one should "try" to aim for the head or at least come in quickly with a second shot to the head and not let the animal suffer. Sometimes that's not possible to do, but it should always be attempted. In the video, it's clear that the guy DID NOT attempt to dispatch the dying animal with a follow up shot at all. Read= NOT COOL.
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Respectfully, I disagree and so does the Fish & Game commission. At least here in Cali, killing of rodents such as "non-game" animals (as listed in the DFG regs) like skunks, possums, starlings, GROUND SQUIRRELS etc... is legal year round with no bag limit. Grey or "Tree" squirrels are different. The DFG commission as well as thousands of hunters believe that the ground squirrel is a major carrier of the bubonic plague, therefore it's not an animal thats eaten on a regular basis (unlike the Grey squirrel).

Many people kill the rodents and pests with firearms and quite frankly, enjoy doing so. Me included. How about Coyotes? I don't know anybody that kills Coyotes for food. Oops, I must correct myself. I do know of ONE hunter here that makes coyote jerky. Yuck! But, to each his own.

I fully respect a person that has an opposite belief regarding killing for food only. I just don't agree with that and it's a topic that has been debated for decades. It's an issue that many of us hunters will just have to agree to disagree on. The practice has been going on in this country and before for over 250 years.

As for the guy that made the video on Youtube, none of us actually knows for sure, but eventually after every kill he made, he pretty much (I'm assuming) recovered the animals. We don't see the dead ones lying out in a pile or squirrel corpses. It appears that eventually, the guy recovers each animal (except the one squirrel that has his "rear wheel drive" blown out and escapes!!!) Yeah, there was a couple times he said he'd leave the dead squirrel up there for a "decoy," however it wasn't long before the area was void of any dead squirrels before he shot the next one.

Just "my thoughts" because the OP asked for our thoughts. This doesn't mean that I'm right, it just means that we all have different opinions about the subject.

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I've hunted squirrel for the pot... my grandmother liked to make squirrel stew. My Grandpa would have smacked me silly if I'd behaved the way this "hunter" did. I'd call him a butcher, not a hunter.
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I've shot many a squirrel, and ground squirrels are pests. But, if your going to take it's life, a clean kill is the least you can do. I hate to see anything suffer, period. Head shot, or behind the shoulder through the heart and lungs, that puts them out in a second or two. If the squirrel does the funky chicken, you missed. If you don't put it out first shot, a quick follow up of two. A shotgun with #6 puts em out quick if you can't shoot. I was at a friends ranch recently and shot a good 20 ground squirres because the chew up the wiring on the farm equipment. None of them did the funky chicken. Found a skunk caught in the pit under the cattle guard, and put a board down there so it could get out and be on it's way. I found a tree squirrel by my house that fell out of the nest, so I got a ladder and put it back. There are times to kill, and times to live and let live.

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SAD. VERY SAD TO SEE THE LAST BREATH TAKEN FROM THE LITTLE GUY. PERHAPS ONES MIND WILL CHANGE WHEN THEY TAKE THE LIFE AWAY FROM AN INNOCENT PERSON AND WATCH THEM TWITCH ABOUT EVEN IF ITS THE THE ENEMY. BEEN THERE, DONE THAT AND HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. THAT IS BECAUSE OF A DO OR DIE SITUATION. NOT JUST FOR FUN. LOOK INTO THERE EYES. ONE MAY LEARN ALOT.
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I hunt dove and quail for food, I hunt coyotes for sport/population control, I shoot ground squirrels for sport/damage control. I enjoy doing it otherwise I wouldn't be doing it. Guess I'm sick.
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It doesn't even look like he was using proper JHP ammos.
I thought the same thing. However, earlier last year when I called Fish and Game about FMJ 22LR's, the warden basically chuckled and said there is no such thing as FMJ 22LR's. He even went as far as all 22LR's are legal for squirrels.
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I thought the same thing. However, earlier last year when I called Fish and Game about FMJ 22LR's, the warden basically chuckled and said there is no such thing as FMJ 22LR's. He even went as far as all 22LR's are legal for squirrels.
You can hunt squirrel with a throwing stick if you wanted.
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This clown pauses before the finishing shot, going to adjust his scope. For Pete's sake, it wasn't a wounded rhino. Move in quick and stop it's suffering. Friggin Cecille B DeMille Retarded shmuck, I hope he at least ate it.
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I always considered squirrels pests. I blow them up, poisoned them, shot them and use restricted use chemical warfare (aluminum phosphide) on them. Damn rats !

But yeah, that guys not much of a hunter.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOkpcKCjVBg

And the rest of his vids...

http://www.youtube.com/user/KSOLOBRO

Sorry guys, I'm just having a lot of trouble being impressed.

In that vid above, he says that he only hunts 10 acres, so he has trouble recovering a lot of deer he shoots!

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He fails. Horrible shot.

I love watching squirrels, gotta be one of my favorite animals.
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Baiting an area and then killing animals with a scoped rifle from less than 150' away definitely is a demonstration of manhood. Much talent needed.
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He fails. Horrible shot.

I love watching squirrels, gotta be one of my favorite animals.
They are pretty cool. There's one that is all scared up and missing half of its tail that hangs out in my apartment managers office and eats peanuts from people
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he still shoots better then me, but i always use irons. never hunted before.
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They are pretty cool. There's one that is all scared up and missing half of its tail that hangs out in my apartment managers office and eats peanuts from people
I agree. I have a couple that live in the palm tree in my front yard. One of them barks and my dog and I from time to time, and I can't help but be amused.

As far as the OP, the guy is despicable. Reminds me of the idiots that go on "safaris" in Africa where they shoot Zebra and other game that is either drawn to bait feeders or even worse, staked down so it can't even try to run away.

It's not sporting, it's not quick, I don't see the point. From the rest of the guy's videos he seems like a class act-POS.
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I've shot many a squirrel, and ground squirrels are pests. But, if your going to take it's life, a clean kill is the least you can do. I hate to see anything suffer, period. Head shot, or behind the shoulder through the heart and lungs, that puts them out in a second or two. If the squirrel does the funky chicken, you missed. If you don't put it out first shot, a quick follow up of two. A shotgun with #6 puts em out quick if you can't shoot. I was at a friends ranch recently and shot a good 20 ground squirres because the chew up the wiring on the farm equipment. None of them did the funky chicken. Found a skunk caught in the pit under the cattle guard, and put a board down there so it could get out and be on it's way. I found a tree squirrel by my house that fell out of the nest, so I got a ladder and put it back. There are times to kill, and times to live and let live.
Im like that also, being a sportsman was taught early to me. I wince when people that do this stuff to animals, use bait to hunt with, shoot game birds on the ground.
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He fails. Horrible shot.

I love watching squirrels, gotta be one of my favorite animals.
Tree squirrels are cool, ground squirrels suck....speaking pest wise on a ranch.

Im almost 50 and my mom said she would smack me if i ever popped a tree squirrel at the ranch lol, I know some eat them but never tried so no reason bag them for me...ground one are different story.
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The Chemical Warfare comment made me lol but on a serious note the guy is a horrible shot and seemed to enjoy to watch the suffering...dueche bag for shizzle!!
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Im like that also, being a sportsman was taught early to me. I wince when people that do this stuff to animals, use bait to hunt with, shoot game birds on the ground.
Agree. I also hate when people do this kind of stuff....




I couldn't find any pictures, but I have also seen people doing this with deer and such too. Total and complete lack of respect for game and it makes all of us outdoorsman look like monsters. Heck, not even cavemen treated their game like this!

I know one guy that I thought was a guy that treated his kill with respect. That was until I saw him drive into the office on a monday morning with a dead dove head placed on the top of his truck antenna like the little jack-in-the-box antenna tops. Most at the office thought it was a tasteless gesture and it sure did give good hunters a bad rep at the office.
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altho I dont think Id post videos, those squirrels died quickly. and we need to get over our selfs. very few animals just drop dead. but hunters reposting these to pick them apart and monday morning quarterback them does more harm than anything else we could do. DR
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altho I dont think Id post videos, those squirrels died quickly. and we need to get over our selfs. very few animals just drop dead. but hunters reposting these to pick them apart and monday morning quarterback them does more harm than anything else we could do. DR
But you can always do a follow up shot to ease the misery.

I've had better results from my .177 air rifle, these guys are a POS.
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I think hunting is a fun sport -

Using a firearm, a bow, or a snare.

The guy in the video is just a douche bag -

Nothing more.

Maybe a little less...
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killing animals for sport or amusement without merit of food or other sustenance is wrong.. the size of my parents farm qualifies everything from white tail on down as legal varmint by state law and likewise year-round fair game.. regardless, my parents would have whipped my azz in to the next century if I would have ever senselessly killed any sort of animals for any form of entertainment or any other reason than to stock our freezers or protect our herds and flocks.. killing critters like coyotes that endanger domestic herds is a chore that most of us growing up are familiar with but find no joy in it.. people that kill for their own amusement are shallow and weak.. killing out of necessity is not any fun in and of itself but rewarding for its accomplishments of food or protection..
What he said, but ground squirrels vs grey or red, blast 'em all day. The dudes a poor shot. One shot one kill applies to squirrels too. PAX
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This vid is pretty sad..... We had a rancher nearby when we were kids that would give us bounty on ground squirrels on his cattle pasture. We learned to be good shots quickly because we were shooting bolt action single-shots, and if that squirrel got back into his hole, we didn't get anything for it. That said, the first couple of weekends out there were not too successful as we were honing our skills. If we did get a flopper, there was always someone nearby to make a follow-up shot and share in the credit. The end result was the same for the rancher however, as the squirrel population declined over time, and we made the attempt as young teenagers to go about it without undue cruelty.
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I enjoy hunting, I don't enjoy killing. There IS a difference. There is a hunters creed and this guy isn't a hunter and gives all of us a bad name!
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Old 11-13-2011, 10:25 AM
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I think hunting is a fun sport -

Using a firearm, a bow, or a snare.

The guy in the video is just a douche bag -

Nothing more.

Maybe a little less...
have you ever seen an animal die in a snare? how about shot with a bow? its been done for centurys but its not pretty. I think Turos got it right, Dont post videos! DR
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Old 11-13-2011, 10:37 AM
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Note to self, don't ever post any hunting videos on Calguns.

Time to go to the range and learn to shoot if you are similar to the guys in the video......

I always get a sinkin feeling in my gut when I see the twitch... haven't seen it in person since I was 12.
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Old 11-13-2011, 10:39 AM
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Sure, they're "only" squirrel... but still...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6rdFRswtY4

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Old 11-13-2011, 12:50 PM
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If you think that's cruel, you should see what animals do to each other!
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