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Old 01-04-2012, 6:46 PM
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theres my dis-patater..

still need to put the rear sight together which means i need to clean off my bench so i think thats going to wait till the weekend..
also need to figure out what i did with my dork wrench and borrow someones go/nogo..
gas tube is in but not pinned (pending torqueing of barrel nut) im still thinking of making this a dedicated .22 it can stay that way for now.. also keeps it as a bolt action till i maglock it (.22 conversion bolt is installed in photo but dust cover is closed)..
im not sure how i feel about the yhm comp but it keeps the upper switchable with my featureless 3gun lower..

ive got some triangular handguards but they dont fit the hbar barrel.. looks like ill have to build another one so i can use those hand gaurds
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theres my dis-patater..

still need to put the rear sight together which means i need to clean off my bench so i think thats going to wait till the weekend..
also need to figure out what i did with my dork wrench and borrow someones go/nogo..
gas tube is in but not pinned (pending torqueing of barrel nut) im still thinking of making this a dedicated .22 it can stay that way for now.. also keeps it as a bolt action till i maglock it (.22 conversion bolt is installed in photo but dust cover is closed)..
im not sure how i feel about the yhm comp but it keeps the upper switchable with my featureless 3gun lower..

ive got some triangular handguards but they dont fit the hbar barrel.. looks like ill have to build another one so i can use those hand gaurds
My DPMS upper has the HBAR barrel and with my USGI triangular guard I had to use the dremel tool to relieve the hand guard up near the front sight so it will close around the heavy barrel. Once done, It fits 98 percent. Seems like contact between the barrel and guard heat shield keeps the two halves apart about .080" Don't quite come together. Problem is, The gun shoots .300" at 50 yards so far with the other handguard so I'm worried the barrel contact will muck that up.
I'll see. Probably wind up putting triangle forend on a Factory contour A2 upper with a 20 inch barrel and reverting to the DPMS forend. The triangle does look cool on the rifle, just wish it closed a tad more.
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Well, I had to do it...

PSA Upper
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Del-Ton Dizzy barrel w/FSB
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UTG NM Rear sight
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I have not even cleaned her up from assembly yet; evidence is the anti-seize on the upper receiver (stuff gets everywhere) and bolt packed with cosmoline. No major issues in assembly except the FSB/gas block was not deep enough to accommodate the gas tube, so I drilled it out a little and it fit just fine.

The PSA trigger is lighter than my Stag trigger in my featureless but has more creep. I like the feel of the ACE stock but not sold on the looks yet...



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Old 01-10-2012, 4:14 PM
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...it was a Colt 605

And here's my recent "old skool" build:



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Old 01-10-2012, 6:41 PM
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605 had a 15 inch barrel probably the reason the design originally had so many problems and why people still think they don't work.

Good lookin Old School rifle!
how hot does that handguard get tho? have you ripped on it?
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Old 01-10-2012, 9:19 PM
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605 had a 15 inch barrel probably the reason the design originally had so many problems and why people still think they don't work.

Good lookin Old School rifle!
how hot does that handguard get tho? have you ripped on it?
No doubt that extra one inch will help, both functionally and legally.

I can't say about the handguard heat yet. Scheduled to go rippin' later this week.
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...my 9mm AR will have a rifle length handguard... dissipator style but no gas system so no worries about gas port size or anything
Same here...
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No doubt that extra one inch will help, both functionally and legally.

I can't say about the handguard heat yet. Scheduled to go rippin' later this week.
saweeeet! lookin forward to that range report!
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:14 PM
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saweeeet! lookin forward to that range report!
About 150 rounds of XM193 yesterday at the range. Zero issues. Cycles just fine with the 16" barrel and rifle length gas system. GTG with punching out the black ring after iron sights were adjusted. No handguard heat concerns with firing at a 2 sec (range rules) rate through a couple of mags. Best compliment was, "How did you bring that back from 'Nam ?"

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Just ordered my 7.62x39 dissipator upper from Model 1 sales. Impatiently waiting now....
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Mine.



PSA lower, Bushmaster upper, heavy fluted barrel. And it does get hot lol.
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7.62x39 and 556 with the front sight bases removed.

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OOOK I want a dissy upper bad, what is the best route to go for purchase... I do not want to construct an upper, assembled would be great.
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OOOK I want a dissy upper bad, what is the best route to go for purchase... I do not want to construct an upper, assembled would be great.
palmetto state armory seams to be a great place to start looking.
jsesurplus occasionally has completed uppers for sale, I have seen dissipator style uppers a couple of times.

EDIT:
the krylon on my dissy was getting pretty SAD. I won't paint it with duracoat because I just don't want to - so I repainted it with ultra-flat black and did a snakeskin sorta fade on the front with tan.
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Uhhh....don't take this the wrong way, but I think it's a case of where somebody might say, "...well, I'm sure she has a nice personality...."
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lmk what you think!
needs to go back further.. lookes like you poked it in the mud.. i like the way it came out though..
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Uhhh....don't take this the wrong way, but I think it's a case of where somebody might say, "...well, I'm sure she has a nice personality...."
bwuaaahahaha - nice :P

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needs to go back further.. lookes like you poked it in the mud.. i like the way it came out though..
oh yea! I really just wanted to draw attention to the front end of the rifle, since it's the short barrel end that always make people go "what is going on here?"
last time it was at the range it got quite a few looks and people just can't stop speculating - I let them guess and talk about it with their buddies... I hear the funny remarks like "yea it's a short barrel, like the navy seals use" or "it's got a gas block up front but probably has a short gas tube under there."

I love popping that handguard off and making people go >0.0<

plus having a heavy profile barrel on there always throws people for a loop
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Dang....never thought about a dissipator build. Hmmm...if I did, I'd probably do a 18"bbl in a 6.8. Been kinda wanting to do a 6.8 build anyway.
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I dig it! Do you have just a full side shot?

I've started collecting parts for my dissi build. Should be something close to my sig pic
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Ordered the hammer forged midlength-gas dissipator upper (with USGI handguards) from PSA almost two weeks ago. Still hasn't shipped. Would like to know what's up with that. They said they were in stock.

Anyways, once that gets here it's going on a Noveske blem lower that I've got sitting around half-built (no buttstock assembly yet).

I'm REALLY liking the new MOE Rifle stock that Magpul announced, but it's not shipping yet so I'll probably just get an A1 stock for now to pass the time.

For irons I'm a big fan of the RRA Tactical Carry handle. It's got an A2 sight, with a slightly elevated rail. I may top it with a Primary Arms red dot, but we'll see.
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Ordered the hammer forged midlength-gas dissipator upper (with USGI handguards) from PSA almost two weeks ago. Still hasn't shipped. Would like to know what's up with that. They said they were in stock.

Anyways, once that gets here it's going on a Noveske blem lower that I've got sitting around half-built (no buttstock assembly yet).

I'm REALLY liking the new MOE Rifle stock that Magpul announced, but it's not shipping yet so I'll probably just get an A1 stock for now to pass the time.

For irons I'm a big fan of the RRA Tactical Carry handle. It's got an A2 sight, with a slightly elevated rail. I may top it with a Primary Arms red dot, but we'll see.
I'm waiting for the Magpul stock for mine. I tried a PA red dot, but it felt too bulky and added too much weight. I'm liking my Matech 600m BUIS though.



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to the OP you will also want to add AIM Surplus to that list of dizzy suppliers. Spikes builds AIM exclusive uppers and they offered the Dizzy as well. was going to buy one but the new CHF uppers were in stock and would rather have the FN barrel and turn it into my own Dissapator!
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to the OP you will also want to add AIM Surplus to that list of dizzy suppliers. Spikes builds AIM exclusive uppers and they offered the Dizzy as well. was going to buy one but the new CHF uppers were in stock and would rather have the FN barrel and turn it into my own Dissapator!
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I've started collecting parts for my dissi build. Should be something close to my sig pic
I don't hav a full side shot, but I am shooting a video this weekend - so that will be up.

I hope to introduce a malfunction with steely wolf (havn't been able to the last 200 I shot) and also show off my fancy new plate carrier and ceramic armor I got.

plus you all get to see my sexay face (I am drunk right now)
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I don't hav a full side shot, but I am shooting a video this weekend - so that will be up.

I hope to introduce a malfunction with steely wolf (havn't been able to the last 200 I shot) and also show off my fancy new plate carrier and ceramic armor I got.

plus you all get to see my sexay face (I am drunk right now)
Haha!

Cool, can't wait to see the vid. I was already thinking of doing a fade with black on my FDE handguards, so it will be cool to see how yours looks.
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Not too shabby if I may say so myself! Especially considering that a little over a year ago I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with irons.

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Here is my Dissy. JD lower, DPMS upper HBar barrel. RRA match trigger. Likes HPR ammo with 60 Vmax bullets, also 75 grain Honaday Match ammo. Finally got to test it at 100yds yesterday. It really did well for an off the shelf upper and ammo. Need to reload soon. THis gun shot .300" at 50 yards with the HPR 60 grain ammo. (Turners Outdorsman)
I damaged one target removing it in a hurry, Four went into .482" but the staple destroyed where the fifth went. Could have been a great group but I don't know. Just in a hurry.


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http://www.addaxtactical.com/store/p...LY-57p5557.htm

I was at Addax Tactical in San Fernando last weekend (they are great, btw )and saw they had a couple of their own dissipator uppers (DGI). One was a 16" barrel with midlength gas block and the other was 16" barrel with rifle-length gas system. The guy told me they just came out with the rifle-length one, which explains why it's not on the website yet. Just an FYI
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I was at Addax Tactical in San Fernando last weekend (they are great, btw )and saw they had a couple of their own dissipator uppers (DGI). One was a 16" barrel with midlength gas block and the other was 16" barrel with rifle-length gas system. The guy told me they just came out with the rifle-length one, which explains why it's not on the website yet. Just an FYI
"Ships within 40 days" WTF?!??!!!!!
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I dunno. They have the two I mentioned on the shelf as of last Saturday. Give them a call

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Ill add addax to my list.... glad they are making true rifle length systems... 17k on mine its almost time to think about a new barrel
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Out of curiosity, why? I mean, besides the historical value, it's not an appropriate gas system length for the barrel.
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40 day lead time since we just released the new Dissipator uppers, and we will have the first units ready for delivery within 30-40 days. We are currently in the process of building our first batch.

We are currently only offering the mid-length configuration, which we recently tested shooting Tula .223 using a standard weight carbine buffer and carbine buffer spring without any issues.

The Rifle Length model in our shop is my personal upper that I am currently testing to see if we are going to release it.

I have been shooting both types (Mid and Rifle), and I don't feel that there is much of a difference in overall felt recoil.

The rifle length feels like the mid since the gas port hole on the rifle length needs to be larger to push more gas through the system to cycle reliably.


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Out of curiosity, why? I mean, besides the historical value, it's not an appropriate gas system length for the barrel.
yes it certainly is.

want to know how I know? check out my photos in this thread.

read the original post where I clearly outline why I think that rifle length gas systems are a good to go - I have well over 17,000 rounds through mine

I understand the AR-15 is a lego set, and each will have their own ideas about what is the best to use... I for one think that there is no single type that is better than the others. But I do prefer a softer recoiling and reliable rifle that doesn't use 2 gas blocks to achieve a longer sight radius when you could simply add a free float tube for far less work and money.

there is no historical value... it's a brand spankin new barrel

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In addition to the above reply:



shot blanks all day on Sunday - stuff is dirty.

gun was reliable enough to shoot blanks with ZERO problems all day using the red BFA (designed for rifles)
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I now own ONLY rifle gassed ARs. I can die happy now. <3
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Old 02-15-2012, 9:47 AM
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FK got rid of your SF muzzle brake?
yup! it is an amazing brake for sure, loved it. but unfortunately people shooting next to me in a group didn't like it as much.
since I now shoot all the time with others in classes and drills - with the added fact that I am now training with the Fortress America Project Militia with BFAs - I got an A2 cage.
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