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Old 10-19-2011, 8:15 PM
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Default More ABUSE now included !!!: S&W M&P15 Sport: Review and impressions thread.

It appears from several posts that we have a virtual "owners club" for this inexpensive AR15 variant here on CG. The purpose of this thread is to provide a one-stop place to post observations, reviews, rants and/or complaints.

I just picked one up out of jail today from Sacramento Black Rifle. My first impressions are that the fit/finish seems unusually good for such a low-priced rifle.

It's interesting to note that it was obviously test-fired a few times at the factory, but shipped uncleaned. The carbon came out with surprising ease with just a couple of patches of Otis UltraBore. This seems to be an early indication that the Melonite coated barrel is doing its job.

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I really like mine. I've always been an AK guy but I seem to find myself grabbing the AR out of the gun safe every time lately. Was thinking of getting a Draco but the M&P15 now has me thinking AR pistol :-)
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It appears from several posts that we have a virtual "owners club" for this inexpensive AR15 variant here on CG. The purpose of this thread is to provide a one-stop place to post observations, reviews, rants and/or complaints.

I just picked one up out of jail today from Sacramento Black Rifle. My first impressions are that the fit/finish seems unusually good for such a low-priced rifle.

It's interesting to note that it was obviously test-fired a few times at the factory, but shipped uncleaned. The carbon came out with surprising ease with just a couple of patches of Otis UltraBore. This seems to be an early indication that the Melonite coated barrel is doing its job.

More to follow, including a brief video overview and probably some abuse testing.

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Looking forward to your video! I'm sure it's an excellent rifle, I wouldn't confuse the price point with the quality of the thing. Good job, S&W.
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One interesting observation: The CA model has a muzzle-break installed instead of the standard flash hider. This seems to be an indication that S&W understood that some might choose to pin the stock, use a grip-wrap and thereby go "featureless". S&W simplified the process by choosing a break instead of a flash-hider. Nice touch, and indicates an understanding of the CA market.

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really?? I don't remember a brake on the model I handled, have a picture?
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They have a flash hider:




..and they are nice rifles. I was able to shoot one last week and it is a lot of gun for the money.
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I'll post a pic later. The bottom has no slots, vents upwards, and therefore acts as a brake. A flash hider is generally slotted around the entire circumstance. It LOOKS like a standard A2 hider until you examine it closely.

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Just sounds like a standard A2 flash-hider.

I've always thought the easiest way to differentiate between the two is if the front of the muzzle device is open or has a small opening for the bullet.

open=flash hider

I'm sure this isn't the case for everything, just something I've noticed looking at various muzzle devices.

I wonder if smith would sell just the upper for this rifle and what the price on that would be, anyone know?
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A buddy of mine has one of these with some Magpul stuff on it (MOE grip, handguard, AFG2, PMAGs) and loves his. I like shooting it because it's very lightweight compared to my piston Ruger. The only weird thing is the weird springy sound you hear while shooting. Dunno if it's specifically his gun/parts, but it has a distinct plasticy spring sound coming from the buffer tube on every shot.
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They come with an A2 on them, its the same thing my issued M4 has on it. Also my issued rifle has the same sound that cfusionpm is talking about. Come to think of it, every rifle I have been issued has had the same sound.
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yeah the buffer noise has been there on every AR pattern I've shot.
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I know the M&P AR sport had a flash hider not a muzzle break, the reason being that the Ports are located along the top of the suppressor and bottom is solid to reduce dust printing when shooting prone.
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You are all indeed correct ... it's a standard A2 hider.

Thanks for tuning in to this episode of "ZT Puts His Foot In His Mouth" ... I'm sure there will be future episodes.
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Bought my first AR, MR 15 Sport yesterday. Planning to shoot it tomorrow.

How does sport differ from the regular MP 15 in terms of performance, durability and reliability, I know it doesnt have bells and whistle like dust cover and forward assist?

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Hm. Weird. I'm pretty new to the AR platform and my Ruger SR-556E doesn't make any spring noise when shot.
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How does sport differ from the regular MP 15 in terms of performance, durability and reliability, I know it doesnt have bells and whistle like dust cover and forward assist?

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The lack of bells & whistles shouldn't affect the performance, durability and reliability. Shoot the hell out of it!
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Hm. Weird. I'm pretty new to the AR platform and my Ruger SR-556E doesn't make any spring noise when shot.
My Stag doesn't make the sound either... but my rifle length / rifle buffer system does.
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AFAIK, it's just like the others...without the bells and whistles.
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Anyone planning to get a CMMG 22LR conversion kit for their MP 15 sport?

I ordered one, will be delivered on Mon.

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Nope... I dont really like the conversion kits, Im going to hold out for a dedicated upper, seems like the way to go... .22 barrels have a 1:16 twist rate. I dont like the results from .223/5.56 twist rates. On top of that I dont want to gunk up an expencive upper... I dont like to clean too often, but my .22s need cleaning before any other gun I own.

For the money, I just went with a Ruger 10/22 in the mean time.
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That springy noise you hear is the buffer spring springing around in your buffertube. Every di AR makes that noise.
Anyways I pick my mp15 uo monday and boy oh boy I cant wait. I own 11 AK's and dumped all my AR's last year but im actually a little jittery about my new mp15!
Im also like the OP gonna torture the crap out of it n see how she does. Will she replace my ak's? I'll let you guys know in 10k rounds and a bunch of abuse and wolf ateel ammo.
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Well, I will be taking mine out for the first time tomorrow. Its never been shot and I cant wait. I've had it for about 3 weeks and its pretty much where I want it now. I'll be putting 500+ rounds through it. Mine isnt the "sport" version.
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probably gonna pick one up in th enext month or so, only completed ar i can find in my budget, super psyched
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Urgh I pick up mine tomorrow and I just finished an ak74 underfolder, both will be at the range tomorrow. I cant wait.
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the sport version has the 1/8 (yes, eight) right? I wonder how the accuracy is.

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the sport version has the 1/8 (yes, eight) right? I wonder how the accuracy is.

Marine, care to give us some info after your shoot?
it's as good (actually better) than my ability - and I imagine most peoples...

I've never read a negative review on the Sport. I like mine.
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do you think as accurate as a DD rifle lol?
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the sport version has the 1/8 (yes, eight) right? I wonder how the accuracy is.

Marine, care to give us some info after your shoot?
Mines 1/9, but then again it isnt the "Sport". After I got a decent BZO with my Eotech, I was doing transition drills on steel silhouette targets from 25yds out to 236yds standing/moving and had no problem hitting steel everytime.

Next time I go out I will do some shot groups at 100 and 200 with it and see what happens.
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You are all indeed correct ... it's a standard A2 hider.

Thanks for tuning in to this episode of "ZT Puts His Foot In His Mouth" ... I'm sure there will be future episodes.
HAHAHA!!! That's great! When going back to old threads/posts of mine where I started to embarrass myself with idiocy, I just wish I had thought of such a "diffuser."


BTW- S&W M&P AR's are great rifles. GTG forever. They are one of the few companies that actually machine their own parts (yes, even lower receivers!) in house. With as many years as they have under their collective belt(s), I'm not surprised. Another high-quality product made in U.S.A.
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ahhh, you put the Effin-A on haha. Cool!

Arghh..so tempted to just buy the S&W 15 sport and add stuff to it.
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Arghh..so tempted to just buy the S&W 15 sport and add stuff to it.
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Have any of you ran steel yet?
I was at the range today guy with a verynice looking danielle defense ar was trying to shoot steel but rifle wouldnt xycle it.
I gave him some miwal brass for a couple boxes of steel and the MP15 sport fired 80 rou.ds of wpa steel cased 223 perfect.

Hmmm DD?
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S&W MP15 sport?
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Have any of you ran steel yet?
I was at the range today guy with a verynice looking danielle defense ar was trying to shoot steel but rifle wouldnt xycle it.
I gave him some miwal brass for a couple boxes of steel and the MP15 sport fired 80 rou.ds of wpa steel cased 223 perfect.

Hmmm DD?
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I'll take the s&w sport
Did you take note of your groups at all?
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