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Old 09-06-2011, 5:20 PM
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Default Remington 700 .308 vs Savage Arms .308!!??

Which is a better rifle? A Remington 700. .308 or a Savage Arm .308 Model 10... Please let me know which is better and why!? Thanks all!
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Old 09-06-2011, 5:38 PM
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everybody has their own opinion. Every out of the box savage that I have shot, grouped tighter than any out of the box 700 ive shot.
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There is a lot more aftermarket support for the 700. My advice would be to:

1. Get a cheap 700 because all you'll need down the road is the action.
2. Shoot, alot.
3. Learn internal and external ballistics.
4. Learn to reload.
5. Find a stock that fit's your ERGO's (AICS,Manners, McMillan, ECT)
6. Get the action trued and re-barreled with a quality barrel like Bartlein, Krieger, Rock.
7. At that point you'll have fundamentals plus a rifle that will out-shoot any Savage.
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There is a lot more aftermarket support for the 700. My advice would be to:

1. Get a cheap 700 because all you'll need down the road is the action.
2. Shoot, alot.
3. Learn internal and external ballistics.
4. Learn to reload.
5. Find a stock that fit's your ERGO's (AICS,Manners, McMillan, ECT)
6. Get the action trued and re-barreled with a quality barrel like Bartlein, Krieger, Rock.
7. At that point you'll have fundamentals plus a rifle that will out-shoot any Savage.
it would outshoot a savage at that point but not by enough to justify the extra $500+ dollars you will have in it. and im gonna stop there, since everything said so far is true. No more fanboi crap. I was just saying what i have found.
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^^^ yep if you get a Remmy you will definately be spending some $$$$$$$...HINT!
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Which is a better rifle? A Remington 700. .308 or a Savage Arm .308 Model 10... Please let me know which is better and why!? Thanks all!
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How does the Howa bolt action chambered in .308 fall in this group...?
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1911's are much better than glocks



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Old 09-06-2011, 6:32 PM
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There is a lot more aftermarket support for the 700. My advice would be to:

1. Get a cheap 700 because all you'll need down the road is the action.
2. Shoot, alot.
3. Learn internal and external ballistics.
4. Learn to reload.
5. Find a stock that fit's your ERGO's (AICS,Manners, McMillan, ECT)
6. Get the action trued and re-barreled with a quality barrel like Bartlein, Krieger, Rock.
7. At that point you'll have fundamentals plus a rifle that will out-shoot any Savage.
"Any" is a bit too broad of a statement. Many savages are exceptionally accurate straight from the factory. And most are more accurate than the shooter ever will be.
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i think theyre both great shooters. now what are you trying to accomplish? what will you be doing with it? do you think you will find yourself upgrading down the road, or just using what came out the box? which one has more aftermarket parts and more gunsmiths that are familiar with working on it?

my personal opinion on these two specific choices, would come down to price, ease of mounting a scope.
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Savage rifles may be less aesthetically appealing to some and they don't have as many aftermarket parts, but IMO they have less quality issues than a Remington and generally are more precise. That's been my experience any ways.
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Savage rifles may be less aesthetically appealing to some and they don't have as many aftermarket parts, but IMO they have less quality issues than a Remington and generally are more precise. That's been my experience any ways.
savage used to be the rifle everyone shied away from, i have had no ill experiances with any savage hunting rifle, nor has anyone ive talked to. sure, in the beginning we were thinking hmm, this is a relatively cheap rifle, i wonder..... but after using it season after season for hunting, its made a beliver out of lots of naysayers.
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I was skeptical about savage bolt rifles. My first rifle was an old savage m99 in 300 savage and it is very nice. I should have known from my m99 that savage bolt rifles would be quality.
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I am in the same boat you are in. I want to get a precision shooter and my options were the Remy 700 or Savage and I have my mind made up on the Savage.

I hear more bad stuff about the Remy and how to "fix" them up, If their so good, then why fix it up? I have heard from here and local shops that the Savage is a accurate right out of the box. Plus, I felt the trigger on the two, and I loved the Savages accutrigger. It was nice!
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This question has been asked at leased 100 times.

I am sure it has.... as many questions have been asked over and over... Is it really necessary to add your sarcasm? Just pass on by!!
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Old 09-06-2011, 7:31 PM
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i your close i'll let u shot my remington 700p all u need after that is find someone with a savage to compare.
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Old 09-06-2011, 7:44 PM
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Savage..... they are a hair cheaper because they don't have a name like Remington and the accutrigger is just flat awesome for something that comes stock.
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I own both. Remington Sendero 300 Win Mag and a Savagr 10FP McMillan in 308. Action on the Remington is slightly smoother than the Savage, and it has an older trigger that is adjusted down light enough to be thought controlled. The Savage is slightly more accurate than the Remington, but probably not a fair comparison due to differences in caliber. As light as the Remington trigger is, I gotta say I like the Accutrigger on the Savage more. Not too light, not too heavy... Just right. Both are pretty decent rifles, and if I had to pick between the two, it would probably come down to a coin toss. Having said that, I think the extractors on both rifles are crap. More so on the Remington. The Remington is the only one I've had issues with as far as reliability, but I don't care for the Savage extractor setup either as it just looks like it should have issues..... Both rifles have a 90 degree bolt throw with 2 lugs also. There are better rifles out there for similar cost. The Tikka T3 and T/C Icon come to mind. The Tikka rifles have earned quite a reputation for being tack drivers right out of the box, and the actions are smooth as butter. The T/C Icon is also pretty highly regarded for accuracy, and like the Tikka it has a shorter 60 degree bolt lift that makes for a very smooth action and rapid follow up shots. The Icon also has built in weaver rails along the top of the action for mounting rings, making optics mounting really simple.
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Savage, cheapest. To lock bolt is not as smooth as others. American made.
Howa, smooth action and holds one more round than Savage. Jap rifle.
700, cost the most. Is it better than the Howa? IDK. American Made.

I bought the Howa.
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What are you planning to shoot?

The palma and F/TR versions on the savage can't be beat for the money and the target accu-trigger is simply AMAZING.
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After about a year or so of trying to decide, I went with the Savage because I felt it was a better value.

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700 because I love the feel of their actions and bolts. Never shot a savage tho so couldnt really say.

but I love my 700. Havnt looked back once.. Well maybe I want a GAP.. oh wait they use 700 actions too
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Both are great. I have a 700 Police and my close friend has a Savage 10FCP HS.

Both are very nice rifles. Lots more mods available for the 700.
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Tikka for my $. Just saying!
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I am in the same position as you. I am looking at the M700 SPS and Savage FCP...Savage FCP-k seems to cost more. I am leaning toward the M700 due to aftermarket parts and the fact that I have shot the M700 SPS to death since I sighted and configured my friend's M700 SPS. It is a .5 MOA rifle out of the box. I can't miss with and my buddy who was a novice when I set his SPS up can hit golf ball all day at the range and then hit the remaining pieces. Only reason FCP-k is still on my list is, I have not had a Savage rifle and I have shot them as well. I have shot the FCP-k and that thing is silly accurate as well but that price difference kills it. I do like built in brake.
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1911's are much better than glocks



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1911's are much better than glocks
Well, of course they are. .....ohhhh nooooo


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Out of the box accuracy, Savage. If you want different stocks, Rem700. Only reason why I went 700, since I want the AICS stock
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Here is my Savage 12 VLP DBM.I love it, its beautiful and shoots great.It dosen't need a thing but bullets.Don't overthink it unless you have expendible income.
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My choice is Howa 1500 / Weatherby Vanguard .. over these brands that go head to head with remington 700, savaga, sako / tikka ...
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If you want to buy a fixer upper, get a savage fxc3 for 400 and put a heavy barrel on it for 200 and you are good to go. The non accutrigger version allows for a gunsmith to get the trigger where you want it. Mine is a crisp 2lb and out shoots me on a consistent basis
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