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Old 01-26-2007, 10:32 PM
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Just wondering if reloading 9mm is really worth it? id say I go through 700-1000 rounds a month. shooting action pistol.... think be wise to reload? doing all the preping of brass ect or just buy bulk from 13-15 bucks every 100 rounds
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:47 PM
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Just wondering if reloading 9mm is really worth it? id say I go through 700-1000 rounds a month. shooting action pistol.... think be wise to reload? doing all the preping of brass ect or just buy bulk from 13-15 bucks every 100 rounds
I asked the same question to my friend who shoots IPSC. His reloading cost about 10c per round. He shoots 2-3K per month. He said he can manage recoil and overall accuracy better with custom load. It makes sense to me.
I wouldn't do it for my practical shooting, though.
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Old 01-27-2007, 12:17 AM
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If you are looking for regular FMJ ball ammo, I think you can buy it at wally world for less than the components will cost. Once you factor in the time and other BS it should be a no brainer. This is also true for .45 acp

Wally world price for 100 bulk back of WWB $22 and some change

reloading components price per 100
bullets $11
Brass $14
Primers $1.50
Powder $1.50
Total $28

Plus you can't walk in to the corner store and buy all of the stuff so you also have to factor in some shipping costs.
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Old 01-27-2007, 6:17 AM
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Your reloading cost estimates are off.
1. That brass cost assumes you load once and throw it away. Typical shooters will reload at least ten times before they lose the case.
2. Cabelas sells 115gr RN TMJ for $4.80 per 100 in 500 ct. boxes.

That makes component cost $9.20 per 100, for a savings of $12.80. Let's assume shipping for components is roughly equal to sales tax at Wally's.

Using a Dillon 650 I can easily reload 600 rounds in an hour, "paying" myself $76.80. But since I'm not paying income tax, that becomes $102.40 if you assume a 25% tax rate.

The one problem with the calculations above is I don't think 9mm is $22 per 100.
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Old 01-27-2007, 6:34 AM
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If the cheap ammo you get is as consistent and accurate as handloads and you view reloading as a chore then it isnt worth it. My loads come out to the same price per round and are a lot better than most ammo out there.

Reloading is an extension of the shooting hobby for me so it really isnt that much work. It relaxes me and gives me a reason to go to gunshows (nowadays we need as many reasons as we can get!).

If youre worried about case prep, you can do as little as you want. My prep is just sorting brass to remove the bad ones then throwing them in a tumbler to clean.
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This is also true for .45 acp

Wally world price for 100 bulk back of WWB $22 and some change

reloading components price per 100
bullets $11
Brass $14
Primers $1.50
Powder $1.50
Total $28

Plus you can't walk in to the corner store and buy all of the stuff so you also have to factor in some shipping costs.
I'm reloading 1k rounds of 45acp for around $95 bucks.

Your $22 bulk pack would cost you $220 per 1k. And that's assuming Wally World has 1k rounds in stock.
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You know, even if it cost nearly the same amount I'd still reload it because I just love using my Dillon 650!!
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Wally world price for 100 bulk back of WWB $22 and some change.
WWB .45 230 grain FMJ is now up to $27 per hundred, with tax, according to recent reports.

I can reload for about 11.5 cents per round. That doesn't include the cost of brass, or my time. I don't think anybody who reloads factors those 2 things in anyway.
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Old 01-28-2007, 8:39 PM
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WWB .45 230 grain FMJ is now up to $27 per hundred, with tax, according to recent reports.
I can reload for about 11.5 cents per round. That doesn't include the cost of brass, or my time. I don't think anybody who reloads factors those 2 things in anyway.
Even if you buy brass and throw it away after one reload, 9mm brass is still just $20/1000.

For practice I use mixed brass that is picked up whenever I can, for match ammo I use once fired brass from the same manufacturer.
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And 9mm Luger and .45 are easy to reload (in comparison with .357 Sig, for example) if you carbide dies then don't need to lube the cases.
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It costs me $4-$4.50 per 100 rds of .25acp, 9mm, .38&.357, .44mag, .45LC, and .45acp. Of course, I cast my own bullets using free lead! The only things I pay for are bullet lube, powder and primers. I buy powder and primers in bulk at gun shows, Bass Pro Shop, Cabella's or Sportsman's Whorehouse.
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I used to be an avid reloader, and spent most of my off duty time cranking away on my Dillon 650. Now, time is money and I can easily buy ammo rather than load it. The problem I have now is I don't have time to go shoot! Go figure.
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:39 PM
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If your going to reload pistol caliber ammo BIG + for at least a Dillon 550
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Reloading 9 isn't worth it for me. The cost of loaded ammo vs. finding brass componet costs and time forget it.

If you are shooting a USPSA with a 9mm that's a different story.

I do reload .40 and .45 there is a big enough difference to make it worth my time.
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Old 02-01-2007, 7:14 AM
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My point about .45ACP was taken out of context. If you buy all of the components and assemble your self it will cost more than going down to Walmart and buying a bulk pack.

Since there is no place around here where I can go and buy all of the stuff I have to have it shipped which cost even more.

Don't get me wrong though, I still reload for .40S&W, .45ACP and .45AR as well as .38 Special, .357Magnum, .44Special, .44Magnum and then a few rifle calibers. I do have some 9mm dies but haven't touched them in a few years. The 9mm cases are just too small and I seem to fumble a lot with them and half end up on the floor at least once.
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I used to be an avid reloader, and spent most of my off duty time cranking away on my Dillon 650. Now, time is money and I can easily buy ammo rather than load it. The problem I have now is I don't have time to go shoot! Go figure.
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In the long run, reloading is CHEAPER. I stock up on component when I see them on sale. I can tailor make diffrent loads, and I have unlimited FREE supply of brass I pick up from an indoor range of which I am a member.

No brainer for me, I reload for all the firearms I have (except rimfires, of course).

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at the current price, it's a toss up. I do save my brass for reloading, if I ever decide to. True, I can save a few cents/round but at currently price though, it's about a burger and fries. I rather save the calories and buy the ammo

fyi, Natchez has CCI Blazers(aluminum case) for $6/box of 50. It's in their Jan flyer.

fyi2, Graf's 50 anniversary sale is on. Armscor 9mm brass is $3/100 on sale 2/28.
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My 650 paid for itself within the first year. The rest is gravy. I also have a RCBS single stage for my rifle rounds. It just keeps putting money in my pocket. For calibers like 45 Colt, 45-70, 6.5 Swede, 6.5 Japanese and 43 spanish, the savings are huge. And when was the last time you could buy 8x58 Danish at Wally World? How about 11mm Mauser? Last weekend, I cranked out a quick 500 rounds of 45ACP for my new Colt, and some 30-06 for my M1. When I make 9mm, I use components that I know will bring out the best of my HP for less than the bargan basement stuff. In an hour or two, I can have from 500 to 1000 high quality rounds made. I couldn't afford to shoot if I didn't reload.

For the price of the steel cased garbage .223 thats out there, I will be cranking out high quality ammo. And when I hear that xm193 went up again, oh well I didn't even notice.
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