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Old 08-26-2011, 11:47 AM
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Just in case you're an emergency responder or end up in north carolina during a state of emergency.
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:52 AM
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Hmmm, fine line being walked here by the Gov. She might have opened up the state to a suit.

The comments are funny. Looks like no one is going to listen to her "proclamation".
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Wow can't even transport them.
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Default Alan Gura is already on it

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...eman_v._Perdue
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Alan Gura already has a case for this very reason in NC
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Yeah...like anyone from NC is going to listen.
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fire up another $100 to SAF this is ridiculous. Emergency is the very reason why you would be armed. What a con.
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I would imagine that this particular instance will feed very well into Mr. Gura's case.
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Just when you might need it most, the guv'ment steps in. Typical.
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Looks like someone tried to get rid of if but the Repubicans balked.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=6896
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Ah, read a few more comments down. Someone got ahold of the executive order and this particular "State of Emergency" specifically states that the law that kicks in during SoE's regarding weapons is NOT part of her order.

So they can carry outside of their homes during THIS emergency. They still need to get rid of that law, though. If they don't lose it by suit first.
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Well my bad for not reading through all the comments, I still blame the reporter


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PROCLAMATION OF A STATE OF EMERGENCY

BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA

Pursuant to the authority vested in me as Governor by the Constitution and the laws of the State of North Carolina:

Section 1.

I declare that a state of emergency exists in the following counties in North Carolina due to the approach of Hurricane Irene:

Beaufort, Bertie, Bladen, Brunswick, Camden, Carteret, Chowan, Columbus, Craven, Cumberland, Currituck, Dare, Duplin, Edgecombe, Gates, Greene, Halifax, Harnett, Hertford, Hyde, Johnston, Jones, Lenoir, Martin, Nash, New Hanover, Northampton, Onslow, Pamlico, Pasquotank, Pender, Perquimans, Pitt, Robeson, Sampson, Tyrrell, Washington, Wayne, Wilson

Section 2.

I order all state and local government entities and agencies to cooperate in the implementation of the provisions of this proclamation and the provisions of the North Carolina Emergency Operations Plan.

Section 3.

I delegate to Reuben F. Young, Secretary of Crime Control and Public Safety, or his designee, all power and authority granted to me and required of me by Article 1 of Chapter 166A of the General Statutes for the purpose of implementing the State’s Emergency Operations Plan and to take such further action as is necessary to promote and secure the safety and protection of the populace in North Carolina.

Section 4.

Further, Secretary Young, as chief coordinating officer for the State of North Carolina, shall exercise the powers prescribed in G. S.§ 143B-476.

Section 5.

I further direct Secretary Young to seek assistance from any and all agencies of the United States Government as may be needed to meet the emergency and seek reimbursement for costs incurred by the State in responding to this emergency.

Section 6.

I hereby order this proclamation: (a) to be distributed to the news media and other organizations calculated to bring its contents to the attention of the general public; (b) unless the circumstances of the state of emergency prevent or impede, to be promptly filed with the Secretary of Crime Control and Public Safety, the Secretary of State, and the clerks of superior court in the counties to which it applies; and (c) to be distributed to others as necessary to assure proper implementation of this proclamation.

Section 7.

This order is adopted pursuant to my powers under Article 1 of Chapter 166A of the General Statutes and under Article 36A of Chapter 14 of the General Statutes. It does not trigger the limitations on weapons in G.S. § 14-288.7 or impose any limitation on the consumption, transportation, sale or purchase of alcoholic beverages.

Section 8.

This Executive Order is effective immediately and shall remain in effect for thirty (30) days or the duration of the emergency, whichever is less.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto signed my name and affixed the Great Seal of the State of North Carolina at the Capitol in the City of Raleigh, this 24th day of August in the year of our Lord two thousand and eleven, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-sixth.
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Well my bad for not reading through all the comments, I still blame the reporter
Yeah, I missed that commnet on my first read, too. But, they still need to get the law changed, Alan Gura helping or not.
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Looks like someone tried to get rid of if but the Repubicans balked.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=6896
Yep, I can see it now, "No, don't pass that! What will we use to beat up the Democrats if this passes?"

I hope the NRA supports a pro-gun Democrat challenger against whoever is responsible for that (I am registered Republican, but haven't really considered myself to be one in years - I believe in freedom).

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Looks like someone tried to get rid of if but the Repubicans balked.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=6896
Yeah, notice two things: (1) that many people forget a LOT of Repubs are Rockefeller/"country club"/statist Repubs, not Reagan Repubs.

(2) That the NRA-ILA in the linked article specifically mentions the Repubs and their tactics/pressure techniques to keep this from passing. That shows that the NRA is NOT in the pocket of the Repub party. So, support the NRA/NRA-ILA as well as SAF.

Re. this SoE NOT pulling people's LTCs: frankly, I hope it DOES require them to disarm! Why? On the East Coast, esp VA and south, there's something called "Hurricane season," which is something like 6 months out of the year.

I can think of NOTHING better to get that law repealed than requiring EVERY LTCer in the entire state (not just on the coast) to stop LTCing every time a SoE is declared.

For reference, here's the NRA-ILA's map re state laws re RKBA vs SoEs:

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Yea she actually did not enact that portion of the legislation... How she gets to pick and choose which parts of the act I am not sure.

14‑288.7. Transporting dangerous weapon or substance during emergency; possessing off premises; exceptions.
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, it is unlawful for any person to transport or possess OFF HIS OWN PREMISES ANY dangerous weapon or substance in any area:
(1) In which a declared state of emergency exists; or
(2) Within the immediate vicinity of which a riot is occurring.
(b) This section does not apply to persons exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14‑269 with respect to any activities lawfully engaged in while carrying out their duties.
(c) Any person who violates any provision of this section is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

I didnt vote for her.
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Yep, I can see it now, "No, don't pass that! What will we use to beat up the Democrats if this passes?"

I hope the NRA supports a pro-gun Democrat challenger against whoever is responsible for that (I am registered Republican, but haven't really considered myself to be one in years - I believe in freedom).

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