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Old 08-22-2011, 1:05 PM
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Question are exploding targets legal

the answer is proubaly a no seeing its california but my brother in law was telling me he enjoys shooting exploding targets and i would love to shoot some with my 22 lr but hes in west virgina and im in ca so does any one know if its legal to buy n shoot it i fill it would fall under destrutive device in pn. code so please let me have your input please
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Yes, they are legal. The little .22lr ones are just too expensive for me.
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Old 08-22-2011, 1:18 PM
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awesome figured they were expensive but man i gotta at least try them once lol are they normally available in local ca stores or is online only way.because i dont care for paying online for stuff nowadays
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.22LR won't ignite the more popular named brand targets like Tannerite and Star Target.

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could i make some 22 sensitive targets from readily availible item
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There seems to be considerable debate over whether or not Tannerite and other binary exploding targets are legal in CA.
On BLM land over the line in NV or AZ, on the other hand....

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I have severe concerns that even possession of Tannerite components could be considered "constructive possession" under 12300? 12301?PC.

This state even bans C02 bombs. If there's a fireworks exemption, I'd like to see it.

I do not wanna be near Tannerite in CA. It'd be an easy charge to bring.

Tanner(ite) says it's approved but I do not see any letters, and I don't even know if he's used a California-cognizant attorney. When I questioned one of their distributors close to them at Reno gunshow, they got all huffy and said I was a crazy Californian.
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There are exploding targets specifically designed and marketed for rimfires. I first encountered some back in '86 so, they've been around, and being sold in California for a long time.
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Anybody here old enough to remember when Targetmaster's in Milpitas use to allow you to use those in the indoor range? My how times have changed.
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My opinion is no, not legal.
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legal in CA, yes. Just need to find a spot you can use them, BLM is probably best.
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My opinion is no, not legal.
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If BWeise & others are not comfortable with them at this time.... Then I am not either...

Beyond that... I think it would be really easy to get slapped with some destructive device charges.
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I go by the tried and true logic of
"if they sell it it must be legal'
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I go by the tried and true logic of
"if they sell it it must be legal'
Logic probably works in Kentucky.Broken here.
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lol i agree if they sale it im guessing its legal so i guess that means any one know of a spot in san diego area where i can purchase theses rimfire targets and i plan on useing it in the middle of the desert where ill have really noone around for miles safty first
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there was a booth at the costa mesa show last weekend...... and the package said CA legal or approved can't remember which.....I asked the vendor he did not seem to care or be knowledgeable enough to care
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yeah seems to be what i get when i ask local gun shops a dick head attitude
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If BWeise & others are not comfortable with them at this time.... Then I am not either...

Beyond that... I think it would be really easy to get slapped with some destructive device charges.
For rimfire targets, we are not talking about tanerite. The little targets have about as much poop as a half a rool of red paper caps. They have been on the market for over 25 years and, to my knowledge, no one has ever been charged (let alone convicted) of any crime having to do with these. I sure don't think these targets are what BWeise was refering to back in '07.
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Safe and Sane Fireworks are legal too. Just don't use them in most cities...

Ask your range safety officer.
If BLM land, don't burn it down.
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Anybody here old enough to remember when Targetmaster's in Milpitas use to allow you to use those in the indoor range? My how times have changed.
I am old enough to remember that they were a PITA to clean up after in the bays.
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Apparently they are only illegal if you laugh after the target goes boom. They (target indicators) must not have "entertainment" value- I am not joking, according to bwiese, that's the law.
Meanwhile Mr tanner at www.tannerite.com maintains that his product is nothing more than black powder and is therefore 100% legal
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Be honest. Show them your Tannerite, explain what you are doing, and if they have further questions, offer them our phone number and website. We have been educating LEOs on Tannerite for many years. If you are doing something stupid though (like strapping targets to trees or otherwise destroying property on public lands) we will not support you. Tannerite is sold as a shot-indicator for long range shooting. If you get nailed for blowing up a computer and leaving trash on public property like so many idiots on You-tube, you are on your own. If you are told to stop shooting because others are complaining about the noise, then stop. Do not be as *** and taunt the bull.

How could something so fun, be legal everywhere?

Answer: Because Tannerite falls under the same laws as black powder and all other explosives that are exempt for sporting use. Refer to the link in the previous paragraph for more hard information on all binary explosives manufacture and use. Remember though, just because it’s a legal product if used as prescribed, does not mean that you can use it in any manner you wish. Not unlike firearms, you can legally shoot them, but there are places where it is forbidden. It is up to the end-user to obtain local authority permission before using our product unless it’s on private property. Even then, if you live close to others it’s best to contact them and explain what you are doing…the same as you should do if you set out to cap off your bowling ball cannon or shoot your 5o caliber rifle.
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i thought tanerrite were illegal in cali.. i got a box from a freind in nv but was told not to use in cali.
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Apparently they are only illegal if you laugh after the target goes boom. They (target indicators) must not have "entertainment" value- I am not joking, according to bwiese, that's the law.
Meanwhile Mr tanner at www.tannerite.com maintains that his product is nothing more than black powder and is therefore 100% legal
I've never seen bwiese make such a statement.
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Tannerite is 100% legal. It is not limited nor prohibited under any law. Tannerite is LEGAL. I wish people would stop posting about this, before you know it the CA nazi's in Sacramento will ban it.
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I am old enough to remember that they were a PITA to clean up after in the bays.
Clearly the kid in me hopes that was just last week for you? I could only imagine coming out of there after a few rounds of that stuff looking like an early 20th century coal miner...Alas...you guys have dated yourselves...
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Tannerite is 100% legal. It is not limited nor prohibited under any law. Tannerite is LEGAL. I wish people would stop posting about this, before you know it the CA nazi's in Sacramento will ban it.
^^ This! I know of at least 1 local gun shop that stocks it. I've seen it at another shop 'bout an hour north. And I think I've seen it at Turners in Reseda. I doubt these shops would be selling illegal explosives. I also remember seeing it at the local gun shows.

Just a note, though Tannerite is legal, you should be careful of how and where you use it, just as you would a firearm. I'm sure there is legal red-tape somewhere that might prevent its use in certain areas, like National Forest or within city limits, things like that.

Personally, I'd like to find an area near by where I could use it. Since I can buy it locally, I want to try some. I can also get those bleeding zombies with holes in the back of the head and chest for placing Tannerite once you're done making it bleed and want to finish with an explosion.
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Tannerite is 100% legal. It is not limited nor prohibited under any law. Tannerite is LEGAL. I wish people would stop posting about this, before you know it the CA nazi's in Sacramento will ban it.
Ehhhh.... Okay... IF you say so...

As I've said, if guys who are very much in the know in CA and some lawyers would not be comfortable with possession... Neither am I.


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^^ This! I know of at least 1 local gun shop that stocks it. I've seen it at another shop 'bout an hour north. And I think I've seen it at Turners in Reseda. I doubt these shops would be selling illegal explosives. I also remember seeing it at the local gun shows.

Just a note, though Tannerite is legal, you should be careful of how and where you use it, just as you would a firearm. I'm sure there is legal red-tape somewhere that might prevent its use in certain areas, like National Forest or within city limits, things like that.

Personally, I'd like to find an area near by where I could use it. Since I can buy it locally, I want to try some. I can also get those bleeding zombies with holes in the back of the head and chest for placing Tannerite once you're done making it bleed and want to finish with an explosion.
That means nothing... I've seen two shops in N. Cali selling the SSAR-15's which are generally understood to be illegal in California. ---Such a mistake is understandable considering how complex and convoluted the law is in CA.

Anyway, you have to remember that Tannerite is not an explosive, but the argument is and has always been that it could be considered a destructive device.
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Yes exploding targets are legal in CA. They are called ground squirrels. Enjoy!
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