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Old 11-08-2011, 10:21 AM
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sign me up for friday morning and afternoon...
aside from functioning rifle...what else would you like? what optics do you like to see students with?

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As a bonus for those of you who are coming out to spend this weekend with our favorite Veteran, Stan is going to make it rain. So we'll all get a chance to train in bad weather!!! What a great instructor, he thinks of everything!!!! LOL!!!

What?! You think bad guys only fight when the sun is out and it's a good day for a picnic??!!

See you all out there. Bring a hat!!!
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+1 Looking forward to rain training...just got to figure out how to minimize the fogging on my eye pro.
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try that stuff that snorklers use.
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Default 11/11/11 Rifle/Carbine 101 & 202 AAR

Just got back from taking Rifle/Carbine 101 & 202 with Stan and figured I'd give my thoughts while everything is still fresh in my mind. Skip down to a full rundown of 101 and 202 if you don't want to read through my personal thoughts and observations.

Instructor
Stan was a great instructor. Topics were covered clearly and were explained in such a way that made them easy to understand. He was very patient with every student in the class and was more than willing to help out whenever he was needed. Highly recommended in my book and I wouldn't hesitate to take more classes from him in the future or to recommend him to someone who is new to the training scene.

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101 was just that; the basics. I've never taken a rifle/carbine course before, but knew the basics of how to shoot and operate the AR platform so a lot of it was review. However, to a newer shooter like my friend that attended, it was great information.

202 built on the skills learned in 101. What were isolated drills in 101 were combined in 202 (transitioning to and from different shooting positions, shooting on the move, etc.).

Gear and equipment
Several minor issues popped up along the way, but a training environment is a great place to iron those issues out. I picked up my Daniel Defense M4V7 2 days ago so I was very apprehensive about using it in a class, but fortunately, I didn't run in to any gear issues at all.

AR's like to be run wet! One shooter's bolt was a little dry and he ended up experiencing some malfunctions. Stan ID'd the problem quickly and after relubing the BCG, the issues went away. My advice would be to take the time during a break or a lunch break of an extended shooting session to lube the gas rings through the ports on the bolt carrier.

Bringing more magazines than the recommended number drastically cuts down on loading time, so it might be a good idea to get some more before a class if you only have a few. Not completely necessary, but definitely recommended in my opinion.

Finally, make sure your equipment is good to go before taking a class. Fortunately, the minor issues that popped up were quickly resolved, but you definitely don't want to show up to a class only to find out your gun doesn't work.

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I really enjoyed 101 and 202 and will hopefully be taking 303 when it rolls around if my budget and time allows. It was a great learning environment and there were no egos that got in the way, which helped immensely. I'll definitely need to practice the skills I learned today during future range trips, but it'll be much more fun that aimlessly sending rounds downrange from a bench. If you've never had any kind of formalized training, get out there and do it! You'll have fun, learn a bunch of stuff, and meet a bunch of great people.

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101 started with a safety brief that included all 4 basic firearm safety rules and a plan to evacuate any injured individuals to the closest hospital (map with directions were printed and keys to Stan's vehicle were placed by his bench). Once safety and the evacuation plan were covered, Stan moved right in to discussing topics such as AR-15 nomenclature, different shooting positions (with a demonstration of each), proper sight alignment and sight picture, how to properly fire a shot, and a few more that I can't think of off hand.

After the "classroom" portion, we retrieved our rifles and went to the shooting line to do a dry fire, snap in practice. We worked on breathing, sight alignment and sight picture, pressing the trigger, and follow through after a shot. Once everybody was comfortable, the line went hot and we did a relatively quick zero session. Some people had little to no difficulty sighting in, while others took a little while longer, but everybody eventually got a good 50 yard zero.

We moved in to shooting from the different positions after zeroing and all of it was done at the 50 yard line. From there, we moved in to 25, 15, and 3 yards while working on shooting from the different positions (transitioning from standing to kneeling, kneeling to standing, etc.).

One of the last things covered in 101 was the buddy reload drill. Pretty easy to do, but kind of hard to explain. The basic premise was to constantly keep rounds going down range while handing magazines off to your buddy when he ran empty and your buddy did the same when you ran dry.

202 started again with dry fire, snap-in practice after the lunch break. Once that was finished, we moved in to addressing targets/threats from the flanks from 50 yards all the way in to 15 yards. From there, we did a fire and movement drill starting at the 50 yard line and closing in on the targets (shooting from standing and kneeling).

We then shot at multiple targets while on the move, shooting from behind cover in various positions (kneeling, prone, urban prone right and left, etc.), and did a short segment on transitioning to your pistol.

After the pistol transition segment, we ended the day with the final drill; advancing on a simulated enemy position with a partner. The goal of the drill was to advance with a partner while constantly sending rounds down range; "no movement without fire, no fire without movement." Even with only two people shooting, the noise was enough to make it hard to hear your partner, but we all got through it and had a blast. I got to do the drill again with two other students. The dynamics changed a bit due to the addition of a third person, but we did just fine because the communication was good.
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Awesome writeup Scaro, you were a good team lead on that last run! Awesome value for the training and fun. Stan was very accessible and hands on with his training. Each attendee's experience, gear and equipment varied on a huge level, but I think everyone walked out of the class with tremedous confidence with their carbine abilities. Looking forward to the 303! Now back to cleaning a very dirty rifle (expected from shooting 800 rounds!).
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Just loaded up the car......2 hour drive but can't wait. should be another great class.
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I really enjoyed the 101 and 202 classes along with Zaggin and Sarco on Friday 11/11. Stan is a very good instructor. We did lots of shooting which is always fun for any class you take. Those were my first carbine classes as well and I was very glad I got to run my rifle in a way it was intended to be ran. I will definitely be looking at Stan's other classes.
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18 Dec Rifle/Carbine 101 and 202 ready for enrollment!
Wish I could make this one but it's the holidays and all that. But definitely pen me in for January 9, 15 and 23 classes. I'll see you out there. Happy Holidays!!!!

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Then you should sign up for 303, that looks like even more of a blast than 202!
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Would like to see days of Pistol 101 in the morning and Carbine 101 in the afternoon and subsequently days of Pistol 202 in the morning and Carbine 202 in the afternoon. Personally, more interested in the latter.
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Just a thought, as you're making out your 2012 training schedule. Instead of doing Carbine 101 and 202 on one day and Pistol 101 and 202 on another. Maybe you can do some days where it's Carbine 202 and Pistol 202 then Carbine 101 and Pistol 101. Then flip that around on other days.

That way the people who want to take your more advance classes but can't stay late will have an opportunity to train with you. Plus the trainees can work on more than just one type of firearm per day.
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I think you and Ramzar are collaborating. I do have plans to offer a reverse schedule on at least one weekend.

Merry Christmas,

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Just a thought, as you're making out your 2012 training schedule. Instead of doing Carbine 101 and 202 on one day and Pistol 101 and 202 on another. Maybe you can do some days where it's Carbine 202 and Pistol 202 then Carbine 101 and Pistol 101. Then flip that around on other days.

That way the people who want to take your more advance classes but can't stay late will have an opportunity to train with you. Plus the trainees can work on more than just one type of firearm per day.
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I think you and Ramzar are collaborating. I do have plans to offer a reverse schedule on at least one weekend.
An uncoordinated, benevolent and mutually-beneficial conspiracy!

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Calendar from January to 2 April published on the website, click following link:
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I'm going to leave my schedule open and attend these 4 classes (303 counting as 2) for $250 (that's 2 full training days with a $50 discount for paying for all in advance):
  • Rifle/Carbine 202: Sunday, 5 February 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
  • Pistol 202: Sunday, 5 February 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00
  • Combined Arms & Tactics 303: Sunday, 26 February 2012 @ 9:00 am - 5:00 pm $150.00
Wish these were all in late January 2012.

Thanks & Happy Holidays...
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ARRRRH! Apparently, neither Ramzar and I swayed you. I'm already in for 3 days in January (see my prior entry). I'm in for Feb. 20 or 21, but I have a suggestion. Why don't you implement what Ramzar and I are suggesting? Do Rifle 101 and Pistol 101 on one day and Rifle 202 and Pistol 202 on another. (Notice how I put Rifle first? It was on purpose.)

I love you Stan, but I don't know if I can go through another introductory lecture!!!!
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ARRRRH! Apparently, neither Ramzar and I swayed you. I'm already in for 3 days in January (see my prior entry). I'm in for Feb. 20 or 21, but I have a suggestion. Why don't you implement what Ramzar and I are suggesting? Do Rifle 101 and Pistol 101 on one day and Rifle 202 and Pistol 202 on another. (Notice how I put Rifle first? It was on purpose.)

I love you Stan, but I don't know if I can go through another introductory lecture!!!!
I did listen to you guys, it is the Atypical but it's there nonetheless

Rifle/Carbine 101: Saturday, 4 February 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Pistol 101: Saturday, 4 February 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00

Rifle/Carbine 202: Sunday, 5 February 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Pistol 202: Sunday, 5 February 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00

Pistol 101: Saturday, 10 March 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Rifle/Carbine 101: Saturday, 10 March 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00

Pistol 202: Sunday, 11 March 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Rifle/Carbine 202: Sunday, 11 March 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00

Shotgun 101: Saturday, 17 March 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Pistol 101: Saturday, 17 March 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00

Shotgun 202: Sunday, 18 March 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Pistol 202: Sunday, 18 March 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00
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I'm good to go with the schedule I posted earlier below so please book my seats.

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  • Rifle/Carbine 202: Sunday, 5 February 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
  • Pistol 202: Sunday, 5 February 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00
  • Combined Arms & Tactics 303: Sunday, 26 February 2012 @ 9:00 am - 5:00 pm $150.00

Of course, paying only $250 for any combination of four classes (saving $50) CAT 303 counting as two classes under this plan.

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I did listen to you guys, it is the Atypical but it's there nonetheless

Rifle/Carbine 101: Saturday, 4 February 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Pistol 101: Saturday, 4 February 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00

Rifle/Carbine 202: Sunday, 5 February 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Pistol 202: Sunday, 5 February 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00

Pistol 101: Saturday, 10 March 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Rifle/Carbine 101: Saturday, 10 March 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00

Pistol 202: Sunday, 11 March 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Rifle/Carbine 202: Sunday, 11 March 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00

Shotgun 101: Saturday, 17 March 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Pistol 101: Saturday, 17 March 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00

Shotgun 202: Sunday, 18 March 2012 @ 9:00 am - 1:00 pm $75.00
Pistol 202: Sunday, 18 March 2012 @ 1:30 pm - 5:00 pm $75.00
LOL. I stand corrected. I missed all that because I was only looking at the weekdays. You know the story about that!
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New for 2012!

Serving the San Fernando Valley! Classes at Angeles Shooting Range!

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Certification and course material per the


Low-Light/Night Tactics 101: $100.00

Prerequisites:
101/basic level course for pistol and rifle either from TASC or another institution

Topics Covered:
Surefire® principles of low-light tactics
Hand-held flashlights with firearms techniques
Weapon mounted lights
Tactical light risk mitigation techniques

Courses of Fire and Learning Objectives:
Pistol and hand-held light techniques: Harries, Surefire®, FBI, neck index and more
Rifle/Carbine and hand-held light techniques
Shotgun and hand-held light techniques
Weapons mounted tactical light techniques

Gear List for Low-Light/Night Tactics 101 Class:
Service-type pistol, semi-automatic rifle, and shotgun. If you do not have one or any of these, rentals are available.
At least one hand held flashlight with pressure switch (loaners available.)
At least three (3) magazines per applicable platform
Quality holster; Blackhawk Serpa, Eagle, Safariland, Bianchi, etc.
Strong gun-specific belt unless holster is on your load bearing equipment.
Load-bearing equipment for your rifle magazines.
Pistol ammunition: 250 rounds
Rifle ammunition: 250 rounds
Shotgun ammunition: 50 shells
***NO STEEL CORE/MAGNETIC ammunition at Angeles Shooting Range!***

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New for 2012!

Serving the San Fernando Valley! Classes at Angeles Shooting Range!

and also....




Certification and course material per the


Low-Light/Night Tactics 101: $100.00

Prerequisites:
101/basic level course for pistol and rifle either from TASC or another institution

Topics Covered:
Surefire® principles of low-light tactics
Hand-held flashlights with firearms techniques
Weapon mounted lights
Tactical light risk mitigation techniques

Courses of Fire and Learning Objectives:
Pistol and hand-held light techniques: Harries, Surefire®, FBI, neck index and more
Rifle/Carbine and hand-held light techniques
Shotgun and hand-held light techniques
Weapons mounted tactical light techniques

Gear List for Low-Light/Night Tactics 101 Class:
Service-type pistol, semi-automatic rifle, and shotgun. If you do not have one or any of these, rentals are available.
At least one hand held flashlight with pressure switch (loaners available.)
At least three (3) magazines per applicable platform
Quality holster; Blackhawk Serpa, Eagle, Safariland, Bianchi, etc.
Strong gun-specific belt unless holster is on your load bearing equipment.
Load-bearing equipment for your rifle magazines.
Pistol ammunition: 250 rounds
Rifle ammunition: 250 rounds
Shotgun ammunition: 50 shells
***NO STEEL CORE/MAGNETIC ammunition at Angeles Shooting Range!***

For the calendar of classes please click below:
http://www.stcrispian.com/Classes.html
So no night courses for us in the OC?

Is there a Carbine 404?
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404 is prac app in Somalia.
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LOL. OK, as long as it's on a weekday
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404 is prac app in Somalia.
404 sounds expensive...
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Very interested in taking the night course next month. This will be my first time with TASC.
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I am definitely hoping to make a class sometime in the coming month or 2. The bane of working an IT job is the hectic schedule, but I really want to train, and from what I have read about Stan and his course, this is the place for me.

Hope to see you all in the near future!
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I have seats for you. If you take a look at the schedule on the website you'll see classes on both Fridays and Mondays throughout the month. Trying to accomodate most everyone.

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I have seats for you. If you take a look at the schedule on the website you'll see classes on both Fridays and Mondays throughout the month. Trying to accomodate most everyone.

Stan
I am currently looking at starting with a pistol course in January. I am going to wait until I complete my AR build before taking the carbine class as I feel it would be more advantageous than my 20" barrel Saiga conversion. My 74 build is not going to be done until after the build party in February since I lack the presses.
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I am currently looking at starting with a pistol course in January. I am going to wait until I complete my AR build before taking the carbine class as I feel it would be more advantageous than my 20" barrel Saiga conversion. My 74 build is not going to be done until after the build party in February since I lack the presses.
Stan also rents AR for those of us who do not have one. Ask him about it.
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To Stan and my fellow TASC alumni,

Best wishes for a safe and relaxing holiday season!

See you in 2012 and for continued success to Stan as he expands TASC.
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Thank you P95...I didn't pay him to say this BTW LOL.
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Attended 202, great course. If you are looking to learn beyond individual fundamentals (101 works on this) into small unit tactics, this is about the best program in the area without signing on the dotted line. It had been almost seven years since I had a chance to run a weapon like this, forgot how much fun it is.

Nice job Stan, thanks for answering all my xxx vs. xxx questions, so many ways to skin the cat these days.
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