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Old 01-08-2007, 11:19 PM
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i'm looking to buy a new .45acp caliber auto pistol and so far I'm looking at the H&K. I'm considering either the USP or the USP Compact in .45 but I can't decide which one to get, they're about the same price. I would like to mount a flash light/laser on it and I wonder if the compact version with the shorter barrel affects accuracy much.

Please advice, thanks.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:47 PM
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Both weapons are very accurate. However I would prefer the Full size. I like the way it feels. It would have less recoil and more weight. If you want the flash light/laser, tactical look, then you should definitely go with the full size. Infact, if you have a few extra bucks and if you can find one, go with an Expert. Thats what I did and couldn't be happier. Either way H&K kicks butt!
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Old 01-09-2007, 1:02 AM
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barrel length dosent affect accuracy.

Also be aware that either pistol does not have the standard picatinny rail. You will need an adapter to fit most lights/lasers to them. UTL/insight make a light that fits onto the HK rail.

The full size and compact also have different grip sizes, not just in length but also thickness. Handle both to make sure you get the one that feels better. Some people dont like the size of the full size grip.
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Old 01-09-2007, 1:08 AM
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I could barely reach the magazine release with my thumb without adjusting my grip on the full size USP 45. I held the P2000 which felt like a dream but it didn't come in .45 so I went along with the USPC .45.

I just have trouble looking for mags for the USPc 45.
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Old 01-09-2007, 1:17 AM
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I could barely reach the magazine release with my thumb without adjusting my grip on the full size USP 45.
I can't reach the mag release with my thumb on both the full size and compact USPs. I use my trigger finger instead.
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Old 01-09-2007, 1:22 AM
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I have a full size stainless USP 45. Its a great gun. However, some drawbacks that I see personally are:
1) I feel that the grip is a little too large for my tastes.
2) The rail is a HK only design. It only accepts UTL. GG&G makes an adapter.
3) My HK does not have ambi safety nor ambi slide release (I'm a southpaw)
Other than that is is an awesome gun. I would go to a range and rent a few. Glock, SIG, HK, and midline 1911's. Shoot some and see what fits your hand and needs. I never thought about 1911's until I shot a Springfield TRP. Now I want one of those...
Also take a look at http://hkpro.com/forum/index.php for ALL of your HK needs.
OR you could hold your breath for a PPT HK45...
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Old 01-09-2007, 1:23 AM
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I had one for several years. I loved it. I now have an XD-45, and it does everything the HK did for 2/3 the price.
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Old 01-09-2007, 8:22 AM
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The barrel length doesn't directly affect accuracy. The longer sight radius on a fullsize model generally gives you a better chance at accuracy. It really depends on the shooter.

Here are some things to consider:

Does either pistol fit your hand better?
Does either pistol fit your *need* better?
Does either pistol have readily available accessories / magazines?
Does the 2 round difference in capacity matter to you?

As has been stated before, you'd either need a rail adapter to fit a standard rail mounted light or get a UTL (proprietary) light.

Good luck with your decision!
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I'm considering either the USP or the USP Compact in .45 but I can't decide which one to get, they're about the same price. I would like to mount a flash light/laser on it and I wonder if the compact version with the shorter barrel affects accuracy much.
If you are going to carry the gun, the compact USP is better. For range or home defense, I prefer the full size version (assuming it fits your hand). I have a full size in .45 and a compact in .40, and there is quite a difference in size between the two. The full size requires average or larger male hands to be comfortable, in my opinion.

Both of my USPs seem to be quite accurate, but the full size is a little easier to shoot because of longer sight radius and more weight to handle the recoil.

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Old 01-09-2007, 11:24 AM
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consider sig or fn. personally, i think sig shoots better than hk. the fnp45 is supposed to be released after shot, so that will probably be a cheaper option than hk and shoot as well or better.
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:38 AM
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I'd get the compact since it is actually a possibility for carry (especially in the 9 and 40 calibers). the fs USP is strictly a duty gun.

if you want a range USP, I recommend the special models like the elite and expert since they are ambi controls and have the match trigger.
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I could barely reach the magazine release with my thumb without adjusting my grip on the full size USP 45. I held the P2000 which felt like a dream but it didn't come in .45 so I went along with the USPC .45.

I just have trouble looking for mags for the USPc 45.
+1 Same problem with the mag release on the USPs. Damn shame as they shoot extremely well out of the box...
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i'm looking to buy a new .45acp caliber auto pistol and so far I'm looking at the H&K. I'm considering either the USP or the USP Compact in .45 but I can't decide which one to get, they're about the same price. I would like to mount a flash light/laser on it and I wonder if the compact version with the shorter barrel affects accuracy much.

Please advice, thanks.
I had the full size USP and it used to throw about 1 in 50 pieces of brass directly into my face. I sold it after it drew blood from my forehead. It also occasionally failed to go into battery while firing.

I got a Kimber TLE to replace it and have not looked back.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:46 PM
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I have both in 45. I personally like the full size a little better. Go with which ever feels better in your hand. I can honestly say that I have never had any type of malfunction from either of them.
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Make sure you shoot one before laying out all that dough.
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Old 01-09-2007, 1:06 PM
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Make sure you shoot one before laying out all that dough.
Ditto.

One mistake I made in buying handguns was not trying before buying. In retrospect if I'd spent one hundred dollars renting many handguns before buying a few I ended up selling later, I could have saved myself hundreds of dollars lost selling them again later.
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:25 AM
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if i were you, i would wait for the HK 45, which is supposed to have a smaller grip, which will be more comfortable,. thats one thing that kept me away from the USP 45. the grip is like a brick, and not very comfortable. im waiting on the HK 45
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