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Old 01-03-2007, 9:53 PM
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Preface...I'm not a hunter and never been hunting. But I've always wondered if you take a coyote or jackrabbit do you leave the carcass for the birds or do you have to bag it and take it out?
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I have not seen any legal requirement for the disposal of a carcass for a coyote or jackrabbit.
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id like to know this too
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If you don't want the fur, leave it. It'll be gone the next day.
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It is perfectly legal and acceptable to leave varmint carcasses in the field. We call it recycling.
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Old 01-04-2007, 2:39 PM
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I wonder if you are willing to eat a coyote? Jack rabbits are actually pretty good and there are some great Mexican dishes for it.
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Personally I leave them in the field. I do take cotton tails and eat those but ack rabbits are a little too gamey.
I jsut went quail hinting and got 5 jacks and 6 quails
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What's the point of shooting stuff if you're not going to do anything with it?

What a waste.
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If you take the coyote or jackrabbit. It wont be there to leave.

Somewhat like having your cake and eating it too.

But learn from the border patrols lessons If you shoot a coyote ya might go to Prison.



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But learn from the border patrols lessons If you shoot a coyote ya might go to Prison.
No truer words have been spoken here Sammy.
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Anyone have any good coyote recipes? Wil E. on a stick?

Yeah, I've passed on shooting opportunities on coyotes when I came upon them, while pig/deer hunting. What the heck am I going to do with it afterwards? Mmmm... coyote sausage, coyote rind....

I've tried cooking up jacks I bagged, but they were gamey. Guess it depends on what they eat... Or I needed better recipes... Maybe I should have added a lot more Tabasco sauce... Then years back I read about the diseased ones in some parts of Kalif. and decided to quit eating them and go for cottontails instead, although they are a lot harder to find on public lands than jacks.


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For the guys that actively hunt varmints and predators, as opposed to the hunter that happens across one while hunting other game, it is pretty much the thrill of the hunt really. I did it actively with a team as part of a club for about 5 years and still do it off and on on my own. When you do bag an exceptional animal you will take the hide or have the whole animal mounted but by and large you are just out there hunting them for the thrill of it. Depending upon where you are hunting you could be providing a valuable service to the local ranchers and the like and some of the dogs I have shot have definitely been mercy killings, nasty, mangey, starved looking dogs. Some areas you can get a decent price for good hides too but So. Cal usually does not produce them, not really cold enough. When this question comes up we usually tell folks that we practice "catch and release", much akin to the recycling mentality.

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What's the point of shooting stuff if you're not going to do anything with it?

What a waste.
I gotta agree with that 100% !
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What's the point of shooting stuff if you're not going to do anything with it?

What a waste.

Because Coyotes are varmints and overbearing in California. The more that get taken out the better. The meat is probably way to gamy to eat and the fur isn't all that great either.
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I shoot coyotes, ground squirrels and jack rabbits on private ranches for the sport and to help the ranchers out. Coyotes run calves and will kill them given the opportunity. We had a branding round up last weekend and were short five calves that were counted earlier. Two carcasses were found but we can't tell if the coyotes killed them or just scavenged them. We're hoping the other three are just strays and we will get them back.

Ground squirrels and jack rabbits eat grass that the cattle need and dig holes in the range, canal sides and roadways . They hoard seeds and dig up the grass roots for storage all summer. Ground squirrels can have 2-3 sets of pups every spring.


The ranchers here have very few rules:

Don't shoot near the stock
Don't shoot eagles and hawks
Close the gates
Kill the rattlesnakes near the water troughs, corrals, houses and barns
Shoot the coyotes
Shoot the ground squirrels and jack rabbits
Shoot any loose dogs on the property
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What's the point of shooting stuff if you're not going to do anything with it?

What a waste.


I killed a mouse yesterday in a trap. Am I supposed to eat that too?
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The government declared war on coyotes at one time- bountys,1080, shooting from planes,fed trappers.It did nothing to the population just made them stronger.
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I gotta agree with that 100% !

It goes like this. It's all about carrying capacity of the land. There is an overabundance of certain types of animals which left unchecked dessimate other species by robbing them of shelter/habitat and food. I might also suggest that those who don't hunt should never pass judgement on all those who do without first looking at themselves. The roads we drive on; the homes we live in; the resources we consume; the food we dispose of which is not consumed are all specific examples of destruction of habitat and frivolous waste. Hunters acknowledge their place and respect the balance they offer where as many others who consume by proxy and take a moral stand they aren't prepared to justify or can quantify. The point is: We all impact the environment. I have a friend who hates hunting but he owns a construction company. His houses destroy the land and virtually eliminate the habitat to sustain wildlife. Tell me which one is worse? BTW the expansion of homes into rural areas are a boom to Coyotes. The people bring trash which brings mice/rats. People bring cats and dogs and all of the above are consumed by coyotes. Coyotes are beautiful but so are all they animals they consume. Just my .02
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Exactly. I'm going this weekend to a friend's ranch to "help" with population control. Some coyotes have already been coming down and taking calves.

Also, the holes that ground squirrels dig are really dangerous to cattle. They can step in the holes and break an ankle.


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I shoot coyotes, ground squirrels and jack rabbits on private ranches for the sport and to help the ranchers out. Coyotes run calves and will kill them given the opportunity. We had a branding round up last weekend and were short five calves that were counted earlier. Two carcasses were found but we can't tell if the coyotes killed them or just scavenged them. We're hoping the other three are just strays and we will get them back.

Ground squirrels and jack rabbits eat grass that the cattle need and dig holes in the range, canal sides and roadways . They hoard seeds and dig up the grass roots for storage all summer. Ground squirrels can have 2-3 sets of pups every spring.


The ranchers here have very few rules:

Don't shoot near the stock
Don't shoot eagles and hawks
Close the gates
Kill the rattle snakes near the water troughs, corrals, houses and barns
Shoot the coyotes
Shoot the ground squirrels and jack rabbits
Shoot any loose dogs on the property
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I shoot coyotes, ground squirrels and jack rabbits on private ranches for the sport and to help the ranchers out. Coyotes run calves and will kill them given the opportunity. We had a branding round up last weekend and were short five calves that were counted earlier. Two carcasses were found but we can't tell if the coyotes killed them or just scavenged them. We're hoping the other three are just strays and we will get them back.

Ground squirrels and jack rabbits eat grass that the cattle need and dig holes in the range, canal sides and roadways . They hoard seeds and dig up the grass roots for storage all summer. Ground squirrels can have 2-3 sets of pups every spring.


The ranchers here have very few rules:

Don't shoot near the stock
Don't shoot eagles and hawks
Close the gates
Kill the rattlesnakes near the water troughs, corrals, houses and barns
Shoot the coyotes
Shoot the ground squirrels and jack rabbits
Shoot any loose dogs on the property
Are there any of these private ranches in So Cal and if so where and are they open to the public.
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What's the point of shooting stuff if you're not going to do anything with it?

What a waste.
This could lead to a great debate but I will forego the desire. The bottom line is the law allows you to kill a coyote and leave it lay...nuff said.
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The best and most ethical thing to do is to leave it... Free dinner for other little critters that are wondering around.
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What's the point of shooting stuff if you're not going to do anything with it?

What a waste.
Its not a waste . Coyotes go after calves and young cows and other farm animals. jacks dig holes and cows step in them and break their legs and they destroy a lot of crops. Coyotes have no natural predators and they have fairly big litters. jacks just multiply like well like bunnies.
My bro in law has lost pets and livestock to coyotes and mountain lions.I dont go out hunting and just shoot everything that moves. You wait till you have a farm and coyotes come down and kill a few of your cows or calves. Youll see how you like it then
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Dont kill the beautiful coyotes they look so graceful as the gallop away with your pets.
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Dont kill the beautiful coyotes they look so graceful as the gallop away with your pets.


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coyotes are only good for 1 thing!

Live plinking targets!
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NOT TRUE: In fact their pelts are sought after by many a hunter & they make a great trophy for the display area/wildlife research/nature museums, etc....etc....etc......
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NOT TRUE: In fact their pelts are sought after by many a hunter & they make a great trophy for the display area/wildlife research/nature museums, etc....etc....etc......

Except when they look like this:





In this case, you're doing the dog a favor by killing it.
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What a HORRIBLE looking creature!!! Looks like it was either ran over or shot with a LARGE caliber rifle (no varmint rifle would cause that much damage PLUS break the front paw like that!) But, yeah, I guess THAT would be a specimen that would NOT be put on display!!!!
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What a HORRIBLE looking creature!!! Looks like it was either ran over or shot with a LARGE caliber rifle (no varmint rifle would cause that much damage PLUS break the front paw like that!) But, yeah, I guess THAT would be a specimen that would NOT be put on display!!!!
According to the hunter it was a single-shot 223.
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The coyote in the picture has sarcoptic mange which is caused by a mites.
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Once called BLM about jackrabbit hunting. The gal specifically advised against skinning or eating the jackrabbits, as they have some kind of disease. She strongly suggested leaving the carcasses alone.
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Once called BLM about jackrabbit hunting. The gal specifically advised against skinning or eating the jackrabbits, as they have some kind of disease. She strongly suggested leaving the carcasses alone.
Jackrabbits get these bubbles under their skin. I'm not sure if its a disease, or tumors. I'll try and find some pics.

I like shooting Jacks with 30-06....
Then I don't have to see those pesky lumps when I check the carcass
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Jackrabbits get these bubbles under their skin. I'm not sure if its a disease, or tumors. I'll try and find some pics.

.....please don't.
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Please do!


I couldn't find any.

there were some that someone posted at rimfirecentral a while back.
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Jackrabbits get these bubbles under their skin.
I
Actually they also get worms. What gets rid of the worms is a good cold snap. thats why cottontails are only alowed to be hunted in the cold "winter months" during summer ( hot) months they get these blood worms or something. I shot one and when I went to skin it it had worms so i jsut left it out there. Either way Im probably more nature friendly than your fanatical "greenies" or sierra club pukes. At least i go out and enjoy nature
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