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Old 07-11-2011, 1:04 PM
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Default SIG 551A1!!!

Just saw the video on NRA's facebook page, and it says it'll be available in US soon
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Old 07-11-2011, 1:13 PM
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Looks great to me. I'll wait until I see a few range reports. The 556 wasn't so impressive and I doubt this one will live up it's relatives in the real 550 series. -Ben

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Old 07-11-2011, 2:03 PM
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Hope this one does better , like what ww2buff said, need to wait on the range reports
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I didn't much care for the Sig556, hopefully this one appeals to me.
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Old 07-11-2011, 2:15 PM
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Too little, too late. They should have never even bothered with the 556 and gone straight to this.
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Being the 551 is banned under Roberti Underroos, it might be a dicey prop to get one. Anyone have a clear view on this? I can't remember what was good or not. IIRC the AUGA3 was not clear enough. Too bad they just didn't call it the 556Swiss.
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Old 07-11-2011, 5:55 PM
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I have absolutely zero need for one of these, but I want one. I would really prefer a full length 550 though. Maybe down the road.
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I just found out about these today, and as a big Sig fan, I'm pretty excited!

Question for those in the know:

The California Assault Weapon lists SG 550 and SG 551

This new rifle is labeled SIG551-A1.

To me, SIG551-A1 and SG 551 seem pretty different, but what do you guys think? Will we be able to legally own them here in California?

Obviously we would need a 'bullet button' designed for it and we'd have to pin the stock, but other than that we should be good-to-go, yes?
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Old 08-03-2011, 12:12 PM
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I just found out about these today, and as a big Sig fan, I'm pretty excited!

Question for those in the know:

The California Assault Weapon lists SG 550 and SG 551

This new rifle is labeled SIG551-A1.
That model number is pretty scary---maybe legal but still scary. Also if
this thing is so SWISS it only takes THEIR mags--it is a big fail to me.I
like having M16 mags from many years ago that still work very nicely in
my 556. Pete
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Similar issue with the AUG A3... I don't want to be the test subject. hehe
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It looks like the magazine lock they use for the 556R will work for this... question is how they will "fix" the collapsible stock... its different than the 556 stock.

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Aaaaaand a picture. For those that like pictures. Like me.

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It looks like the magazine lock they use for the 556R will work for this... question is how they will "fix" the collapsible stock... its different than the 556 stock.

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Both good points---that Swiss folding stock looks great but if you can't use
it(and putting a 6" muzzle device on it to make it 30"OAL is not a
good answer). That "paddle" type mag release is hard to work with the
AK type bullet button(if that is the configuration). The AR type bb on my
556SIG drops mags very nicely thank you.Pete

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It's probably going to suck.
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The 551A1 is merely a repackaged 556 with an alloy "Swiss Style" lower. It is US made just like the 556 is.

It is NOT made by SIG/SAN of Switzerland.

And it's BEEN available from CDNN for the past few weeks.
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Old 08-03-2011, 2:37 PM
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Probably gonna have canted sights. lol.
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Old 08-03-2011, 3:50 PM
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Isn't it just a 556 that has to use proprietary mags? If so, how is that better than the 556 which uses AR mags?
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Old 08-03-2011, 3:56 PM
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The sig 522 is just a copy of that. And that thing is uncomfy and feels awkward (to me atleast)
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You can also buy 551 lowers in black from Colorado gun sales, and make your 556 look like a 551, which is essentially what this new sig is, only grey like originals. You also would need 551 mags, and then limit them to 10, and figure out a mag lock contraption for the 551 lower. The lowers are not registered, the uppers are. They also sell the swiss folding stocks, which would need to be pinned open like on sig 556 classic. Easy to do. Be ready to drop some serious $$$ to do a 551 conversion though.
All that said, if I didn't live in Ca., and didn't already have a 556, I would get this one, since it is more like an original 551.

Edited to add, those are not original swiss 551 lowers on the sig either. Originals have a swing to the side "winter" trigger guard.

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Interesting... gotta see it in person, but ya it does look like a revised 556
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That model number is pretty scary---maybe legal but still scary. Also if
this thing is so SWISS it only takes THEIR mags--it is a big fail to me.I
like having M16 mags from many years ago that still work very nicely in
my 556. Pete
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I was KINDA feeling it til I ready it only thiers the sig mags. I would just rather buy a 556 with the older furnature
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People need to realize that they use SIG mags because these cater to those that want a more authentic/original looking 551 who can't otherwise afford or legally own the real deal.

If you want cheap mags and easy to find parts get an AR15.
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I just found out about these today, and as a big Sig fan, I'm pretty excited!

Question for those in the know:

The California Assault Weapon lists SG 550 and SG 551

This new rifle is labeled SIG551-A1.

To me, SIG551-A1 and SG 551 seem pretty different, but what do you guys think? Will we be able to legally own them here in California?

Obviously we would need a 'bullet button' designed for it and we'd have to pin the stock, but other than that we should be good-to-go, yes?
This is the same argument for the Steyr AUG going back 20 years. Roberti-Roos bans the "Steyr AUG" however the "Steyr AUG" is actually the commercial name for the select-fire model, which is already heavily regulated under different code. They clearly meant the civilian semi-auto which in actuality is called the "Steyr AUG-SA".

It's a valid argument, but it would take an actual criminal case to get any clarification on it, which no one wants to play with.
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Would the lower that takes Swiss magazines take AK magazines? If that is the case would it be easy to change calibers?
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Anyone got one in CA yet?
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