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Old 07-10-2011, 11:12 PM
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Default Real VS Clone CASV

I've been wanting a CASV-M rail system for my 16" SS bull barrel build but I have been doing research and come across pictures that show a structure inside of them that may prevent the CASV from fitting over the bull barrel.

I have seen airsoft clones and they look almost identical to the real version but there are no structures inside of them that would prevent them from fitting on a bull barrel. Also they run almost half the price of the real CASV and are made from practically the same material. I don't want to buy the real version and have to modify it to fit.

I was wondering if anyone has the real CASV and the clone, that can compair them.

I was also wondering if anyone has shot a real AR15 with the CLONE CASV on it.

I was looking at the King Arms CASV clone...
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Old 07-10-2011, 11:27 PM
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Old 07-10-2011, 11:33 PM
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Just buy the real thing and buzz out that extra material if you need to.
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Old 07-11-2011, 7:44 AM
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Buying airsoft quality parts is like throwing money into the wind. You won't get it back
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Dont buy clones. Been there, done that....never to be done again.

As much as I didnt want to believe it back in my early days of EBR's, the ol' saying it true: Buy once, cry once.

And certainly in this case, even half price is WAY too much for a cloned rail.
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Old 07-11-2011, 12:40 PM
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you wil get what you pay for if you want to make you AR airsoft quality then you have every right to do that.I think that if your gonna put airsoft parts on your rifle while you are at it paint the brake orange.
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You could probably buy a used CASV for a bit more than the King Arms one with a guarantee that it would hold zero for your optics and lasers. If you plan to go with the airsoft one I suggest checking if it does indeed hold zero with no movement before mounting an optic or laser.
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Old 07-11-2011, 6:56 PM
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I bet the airsoft clone isn't hardened aluminum. First time it takes any hit, it'll probably dent. :P

Airsoft stuff on real guns is bad.

Now if it was for an AR in 22lr, sure why the heck not?
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Your better off putting an airsoft part on an airsoft gun. Buy the real thing and if it doesn't work you can;
A.) Sell it here (I'd imagine fairly quickly)
B.) Modify it to work

If you buy the fake and it doesn't work or ends up breaking you can't;
A.) Use it (Money wasted)
B.) Sell it (Broken, plus nobody wants an airsoft part....well almost nobody)
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Just letting everybody know I ended up ordering a real one...
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congrats but now your going to need to find some way to shave down the inside structures.. I've seen them myself and you might need to get a dremel. Good luck though, won't be impossible... just hard... but its 10x better than getting an airsoft clone.
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Good job. Take your time modifying it.
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UPDATE. I got it in the mail and the structures are wider than in the pictures I've seen. I might have a newer version or something. I test fitted it with my .936 bull barrel (without the gas tube) and it seems like it will fit and still have extra room. I'm just waiting on the gas system components in the mail.
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In the future I might order a Clone - King Arms version of the CASV because I still don't think it looks all that different from the real version I have. The clone version even has the same delta ring track as the real version.
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To OP please don't... I work in the airsoft industry and generally speaking most airsoft stuff is cast pot metal, its super brittle... only recently did they start with all the CNC stuff and even still only madbull really does it. Even the high end brands still cast all their stuff unless specific even still it's made for airsoft...
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I agree with board don't waste your money. You will set yourself up for a big disappointment leave the airsoft parts with airsoft.
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Old 08-02-2011, 8:48 PM
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I got my gas system components and put together my upper with the real CASV-M. Here are the pics but I might have to send the CASV-M for a replacement because the threaded holes in the sides don't line up with the threads for the rail sections.

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I got my gas system components and put together my upper with the real CASV-M. Here are the pics but I might have to send the CASV-M for a replacement because the threaded holes in the sides don't line up with the threads for the rail sections.

Very sexy.
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looks awesome, sucks about possibly having to send it back.
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Yeah, I contacted VLTOR and they told me they had a problem with some of the CASV-MGs and they sent me a UPS label so I could send it back for another. It's cool though as long as I get a good clean one back from them because I'm still waiting on buffer parts in the mail and my stripped lower is still in ten day jail.
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Old 08-15-2011, 8:56 PM
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Finished... I call her "Progress". I got the replacement CASV-MG in the mail and just put it on today.

(These are 10 Round PERMANENTLY BLOCKED Magazines + Bullet Button Magazine Lock)


P.S. It's HEAVY

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nice, I was going for the casv-mg as well for my first AR build, but I went with a DD rail instead. Still considering switching to the casv eventually.

Was curious about the G color, would you say it's more OD or Foliage green. VLTOR has called it either or. From y our pics they look to be more OD which is what I needed

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Uh...why do you have a VFG AND a AFG on there?
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Old 08-15-2011, 10:15 PM
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I'd say it's more toward OD green but it came labeled foliage. I was going for OD green but not many people still make everything in OD green. My battle grip also says foliage but the site I bought it from says it's supposed to match VLTOR stuff in foliage, the grip is a bit lighter grey green. The green CASV doesn't look as dark as the stuff you have on in your picture though. If that's the OD green Springfield 1911, I'd say the green of the CASV is closer to that maybe the CASV is a tad greyer, but I can't tell you for sure because I've never really looked at the Magpul OD green in person and I know the photos can mess with the colors / lighting...

The VFG is also a bipod. I wanted a compact bipod on it and I liked the way the AFG looks. I'd use the AFG when holding the gun at ease, I'd hold the VFG for aiming, and bipoding. Normally when I go to the range I use my bipods with the short 10 rounders. I just had my long ten rounders on for pictures. The VFG goes to close to the long ten rounders. I'd prob take the VFG off if I needed to stay mobile. Although the bull barrel makes this gun way too heavy to use in combat, I'd use my other ARs if Red Dawn or Dawn of the Dead ever happend. This AR is going to be my safe queen...

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What's the advantage of this handguard over others?

I would just remove one of the forward grips and use a QD rail-moutable proper bipod for the times you need a bipod. Looks really goofy with the two grips... and adds unnecessary weight. This way you'll have room to have your forward grip at the right place.
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Wow that's a pretty barrel ya got there.
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Thanks, I would have got the regular flutted barrel but they were out of stock and the spiral was cheaper at the time...
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