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Old 07-10-2011, 7:51 PM
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Arrow Protection Training to California Military Personnel

Greetings,

We have been conducting executive protection & security training to active duty military personnel transitioning out. The course is 100% covered by tuition assistance which means no out-of-pocket expense for the participants. You literally pay nothing.

We've done three courses so far for Camp Pendleton Marines and are trying to get the word out. The first part of the course is heavy with BSIS certifications, the second part of the course focuses on Executive Protection.

The BSIS certs are delivered by Absolute Tactical Training

The Executive Protection module is delivered by our firm Secfor International

Here's a summary of the course:

Certified Armed Protective Specialist (CAPS)

2 week Executive Protection / Security Course available to active duty Military personnel without any out-of-pocket cost to the student. The Certified Armed Protection Specialist (CAPS) course curricula has been approved by US Military Education offices and is covered by US Military Tuition Assistance.

During the security certification module of the course, sixteen California State (BSIS) approved certificates are achieved. Certificates are awarded upon graduation, including:

- California Guard Card (Mandatory for EP work in California)
- Powers to Arrest
- Weapons of Mass Destruction
- Baton
- Taser M/X26
- OC / Chemical Agent
- Handcuffing
- Exposed Weapons permit* (Mandatory to work armed EP in California)
- Officer Safety
- Handling Difficult People
- Legal Aspects & Liabilities
- Introduction to Executive Protection
- Observation and Documentation
- Communication
- Public Relations

*Includes range fees and ammunition

Other Certifications & Permits awarded:

- Utah Concealed Weapons Permit
- Florida Concealed Weapons Permit
- Executive Protection Specialist Certificate (4-day module)
- Mexico Protective Operations

The Executive Protection Module topics include:

- Principles of Protection
- Anatomy of a Protective Detail
- Single agent vs. Team Tactics
- Walking Formations
- Attacks On Principal Drills(AOPs)
- Tactical Combat Casualty Care introduction
- Executive Protection Defensive Tactics
- Concealed Weapons Tactics
- Surveillance Detection - Fixed site and Mobile
- Vehicle basics / Team placement / Armored Vehicle Characteristics & use
- Nuances of Celebrity & Corporate Protection details
- Arrivals and Departures
- Security Driving Principles
- Terrorist / Kidnapper/ Assassin Methods & Vulnerabilities
- Vehicle down immediate action drills
- Driver Down Drills
- Security Advances - Route & Site surveys
- Mission package preparation (Computer lab)
- Proper Etiquette, Protocols & Professionalism
- Industry outlook - Domestic & International
- Networking & Getting work
- Mexico Protective Operations

We also offer recruitment assistance and facilitate interviews with top agencies that hire protection specialists domestically and internationally.
Several of our recent graduates are already going through the hiring process with domestic and OCONUS security firms.

If any active duty personnel are interested, call or email me and we will guide you through the process.

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I would love to do this it's a shame Im not military f$&!ing asthma
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Mtsul, The course described above (13-day CAPS course) was designed for Military personnel, but we offer civilian courses as well. 13 days is a long time for a civvi to be on course, so we have the same curriculum broken up into 2 and 3 day modules for civilians. The only training we can't offer non-military types are certain medical courses and our foreign weapons course as we use RPGs and other equipment that is not civilian friendly.

All instructors are either active Military or security personnel working full-time in Mexico, Africa or the MidEast so we don't generally put up a training calendar. We just throw a course in here or there when we can. We do a semi regular EP course up in LA with a celeb bodyguard firm. That might be something to look into.

Here's some of our courses

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Next course in Oceanside is 29 July - 11 August! We are doing about 1 course per month in Oceanside, but we are trying to involve MCAS Miramar and all the San Diego Navy and Coast Guard bases as well. The more interest we get, the more classes we will hold. We limit each course at 12 students to actually get the students sufficient time on the drills.
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I'm interested too but I'm stationed in Hawaii...
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I'm retired military living in NorCal. I work as a Contractor for the DOD and I'm interested in your courses (civilian ones, RPG's look funny sticking out the window of my truck.) I have a project starting up at Camp P. in a few months so I'll contact your organization once I'm settled in. Thanks for the posting.
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We are doing a lot of work with Pendleton currently, let me know what you had in mind.

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Todd, is that new or unique to your base education office?

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"The tuition assistance program can help cover the cost of college, vocational or certification training."

We run the course through Mira Costa College and I am sure the credits can be applied to a degree. We'll check it out.

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hk-p2000 Anything for Guard or RESERVE
Our program is funded through tuition assistance, so you must qualify for these benefits. We can probably do a deal for our open enrollment courses.
Let me know what type of training you are looking for.

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Providing your base education office signs off on the program, we can come out there and do a course. We would need to get a minimum of 10 students. Shouldn't be difficult once your base signs off.
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I live close to Camp P. (about 30 min) but I'm civilian...anything going on for us sometime soon..and in that area? PS I don't mind 13 days..well 12 I'll skip the RPG day ))
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I live close to Camp P. (about 30 min) but I'm civilian...anything going on for us sometime soon..and in that area? PS I don't mind 13 days..well 12 I'll skip the RPG day ))
We do open enrollment courses also. This 2week CAPS course can be attended by those who do not qualify for TA. We also do 2-3 day courses in SoCal.

Here's an upcoming 3-day course we posted in the training forum.

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Im signed up and enrolled. I'll report back when the class finishes. Got me outta work for 13 days, no complaints haha.
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I want to ask some questions if you dont mind, hopefully you can clear up some fogged issues for me. The reason im asking these is simple, please understand that having a background in EP since 1989, Ive seen classes/courses/companies come and go, some offered a good product, and some just were looking to make money, especially off of Military personnel transitioning out of the military. I know how easy it is for a couple of guys to get together and get a PPO, and start throwing out certificates like they are world-wide accepted and not be worth the paper they was printed on, or be a fly-by-night company looking to make the easy buck. (Custer-Battles is a perfect example of this.) Please understand, im not accusing you of either here and I look forward to reading your responses, and wish all students best of luck in the classes, your curriculum looks to be a very good one.

1- Are you or your business a PPO?
2- What are your instructor/s qualifications? Actual Certified quals with creds?
3- You say that students have "literally no out of pocket expenses." Exactly what are the costs to take your course, and how much of it is upfront payment?
4- Any certificates you offer, "who" accepts them as certified training? I guess what im asking here is, is this just a completion of course certificate that you print up after a student "graduates", or is this a federally recognized certificate? Would it be recognized by say. . DOS/DS?
5- Active duty Soldiers/Marines/Airmen/Sailors are recognized as having applicable training that qualifies them for the Florida and Utah CCW. Florida CCW is even a mail in application, What does your course offer over this?
6- How similar is this to the WPPS that the military offers? Is it federally accepted and vetted as a replacement for WPPS?
7- How much of the coursework is classroom versus hands on applications? My examples are listed below for your EP Module. I just pointed out a few.

- Principles of Protection
- Anatomy of a Protective Detail
- Single agent vs. Team Tactics
- Walking Formations
- Attacks On Principal Drills(AOPs)
- Tactical Combat Casualty Care introduction Are you offering a combat casualty course here? IV sticks, Tension Pneumothorax (sp?), Nasal-Pharyngeal, ect ect?
- Executive Protection Defensive Tactics
- Concealed Weapons Tactics
- Surveillance Detection - Fixed site and Mobile
- Vehicle basics / Team placement / Armored Vehicle Characteristics & use. Do you offer actual driving here with armored vehicles?
- Nuances of Celebrity & Corporate Protection details
- Arrivals and Departures
- Security Driving Principles Will students be actually driving?
- Terrorist / Kidnapper/ Assassin Methods & Vulnerabilities
- Vehicle down immediate action drills
- Driver Down Drills Once again, will students be actually driving?
- Security Advances - Route & Site surveys
- Mission package preparation (Computer lab)
- Proper Etiquette, Protocols & Professionalism
- Industry outlook - Domestic & International
- Networking & Getting work Do you offer job placement once a student graduates or ability to help with job placement?
- Mexico Protective Operations.
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Good looking out Stormfeather, always nice to have someone with the experience to know what questions to ask and what the right or wrong answers are.

I look forwad to the OPs response.
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Same here. I'm not in a good position for this right now, but I might be very soon...

All we need is for our TA to cover this, right?
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1- Are you or your business a PPO?

***The BSIS certs are delivered by Absolute Tactical Training, they are a PPO & maintain a valid TIFF#

***The Executive Protection module is delivered by our firm Secfor International. We do not provide guard services in California which is what the PPO allows.

***The California PPO has nothing to do with our training.

2- What are your instructor/s qualifications? Actual Certified quals with creds?

***There are three lead instructors and several assistants during drills. I'm not sure this is where we copy and paste resumes. Each instructor goes into detail about their backgrounds on the first day in class, but I will list some collective experience and accomplishments of the three leads.

- Former USMC & retired USMC
- California DoJ firearms instructor
- DOD certified AT/FP instructor
- Program Manager : Blackawater 's AT/FP Military training program
- US Navy Small Arms Instructor
- US Navy NCVBSS instructor
- US Navy SRF-A, B Instructors
- NRA Law Enforcement Instructors
- Former US Embassy Security OCONUS
- California BSIS Instructors
- Former French Foreign Legion
- 2 years Team Leader PSD Iraq
- 5 Years leading details in northern Mexico
- Protective Detail Leader in Iraq, Azerbaijan, Lebanon, Bosnia

3- You say that students have "literally no out of pocket expenses."
Exactly what are the costs to take your course?:
***The student pays $0, the course is covered %100 by Tuition Assistance.

And how much of it is upfront payment?
***$0 The student pays for the entire course with a voucher provided by their base education office. The voucher is presented to Mira Costa College who sponsors the course. We are hourly instructors on contract.

4- Any certificates you offer, "who" accepts them as certified training?
I guess what im asking here is, is this just a completion of course certificate that you print up after a student "graduates", or is this a federally recognized certificate? Would it be recognized by say. . DOS/DS?
***This is not a DOS program. This program is for transitioning service members to help them break into the private Executive Protection field . The student receives 16 BSIS California state certifications plus the Utah-Florida cert s that the BSIS instructors threw in as a bonus. On top of this, there is an EP module that covers modern-day private protective details from instructors usually coming off of details in Mexico and can give relevant, recent examples of protective protocols in a high-threat region.

5- Active duty Soldiers/Marines/Airmen/Sailors are recognized as having applicable training that qualifies them for the Florida and Utah CCW. Florida CCW is even a mail in application, What does your course offer over this?
*** Tuition Assistance pays for the state certification fees , Tuition Assistance pays for the fingerprinting, Tuition Assistance pays for the notary. The student pays nothing.

6- How similar is this to the WPPS that the military offers? Is it federally accepted and vetted as a replacement for WPPS?
***Apples and Oranges. THe military does not technically offer the former WPPS training. This is a DoS program now called WPS. Our course is not meant to be a Department of State PSD course, though some of the drills are similar yet scaled down to a realistic private-detail setting. This course offers the certs we have already mentioned, plus an EP module to provide basic training in private protection work. Students interested in the WPS program are pointed in the right direction and some former students are OCONUS with TC as we speak.

7- How much of the coursework is classroom versus hands on applications? My examples are listed below for your EP Module. I just pointed out a few.
***About 50/50

- Tactical Combat Casualty Care introduction Are you offering a combat casualty course here? IV sticks, Tension Pneumothorax (correct), Nasal-Pharyngeal, ect ect?
*** This is an Introduction to TCCC as the topic title states. Most of the Marines we have trained thus far have already been through either the basic and/or advanced TCCC program, a TC3-based CLS course, and many the LT TCCC class/labs. The IV stick has been taken out of the TCCC and CLS curriculum. We reintroduce the TCCC protocols and gear in a protective setting but are not going to waste 2-3 days time for a course the Marines have already been through. When we begin delivering the training to service members that may not have had the opportunity to go through the TCCC programs, we will emphasize this topic more.

- Vehicle basics / Team placement / Armored Vehicle Characteristics & use. Do you offer actual driving here with armored vehicles?
*** We discuss the Armored Vehicles Characteristics and use as the topic title suggests.

- Security Driving Principles Will students be actually driving?
***No, this is why it say "principles" These are practical street tactics in high-threat areas. We took video of details in Mexico and use these to demonstrate driving tactics.

- Vehicle down immediate action drills:
*** Yes, Hands On drills and one of the course favorites

- Driver Down Drills Once again, will students be actually driving?
***Yes, Hands-on, On a closed course with instructors maintaining control of the vehicle...another favorite

- Networking & Getting work Do you offer job placement once a student graduates or ability to help with job placement?

*** This is a topic title. We discuss the importance and the how to-s of networking and strategies on getting work. We bring in one of the largest EP firms in the US to recruit from our graduating students. We can get you the interview and the knowledge..presenting yourself to their liking is on you, but according to the recruiting firm our graduates are great candidates. I will check with them directly to see if I can list their firm name. You all know them.

Ok well, hope I answered some questions. This is not a fly-by-night company trying to take advantage of anybody. This course is a no-cost course to those of you that qualify for TA, and will get you some good knowledge and skills before getting out and moving onto civilian LE and security careers.

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Rick, thanks for the answers and it looks to be a great opportunity for transitioning service members!

(and yes, the driving drills are usually one of the favorite classes for folks who like to hit the gas/brake hard!)

I look forward to a members review of your class!
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Well you just finished day3 of the course. Are you getting ripped off yet Marine?
The cert class was understandably dry, and death by powerpoint on day 2 covered interesting material but was still powerpoint. Today was a blast where I feel I learned alot because it was hands on and intense. I also feel like we werent babied as you let us jump right into the driver down/vehicle down drills. I dont know what the rest of the course has in store for us, but I certainly hope it resembles today with alot of hands on training! I appreciate the time you spent with us today Rick, it was a great experience.

I know Im only 3 days into it, and I do understand that there are limitations to a class like this, but I would like to see this in future classes:

-Force on Force training w/airsoft
-Screening of class participants.
-More hands on drills.
-More Secfor classes!

Thats all I have after 3 days, but I can say Im learning alot. I got some good vids from the driver down course that I will try to post. Our one civilian in the class seems lost, but Im sure he'll be up to speed by the end haha (its apparently his first time around Marines, and half of 3/5 decides to show up lol).

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So this class it's only for Military US citizens, or legal alien in the military.
I could totally be wrong here, but Im pretty sure that some of the certs require you to be a legal citizen (CA Guard Firearm Permit I think). If Im wrong, Im wrong. We'll let secfor field that as I am admittedly not the expert here.
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I could totally be wrong here, but Im pretty sure that some of the certs require you to be a legal citizen (CA Guard Firearm Permit I think). If Im wrong, Im wrong. We'll let secfor field that as I am admittedly not the expert here.
According to BSIS: "Be a United States citizen or have permanent legal alien status"

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Maaaan, of course I wind up getting stationed in ****ing Japan when this stuff goes down...

I was up in Pendleton from 2006 to 2011, weeeak.
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This is considered TDY, TA pays for hotel,food or per diem? Or Does the student have to pay for that? I understand TA pays for the class and certs but what about the other stuff? Also is this for people who are getting out of the service soon or can anyone do it? Thanks!
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This is considered TDY, TA pays for hotel,food or per diem? Or Does the student have to pay for that? I understand TA pays for the class and certs but what about the other stuff? Also is this for people who are getting out of the service soon or can anyone do it? Thanks!
TA will cover all course costs only. Travel, Housing, Per Diem etc will be between you and you command. With that said, it looks like will get GI Bill funding approved in October. Once this is approved, we will be able to offer more as far as training and additional expenses covered.


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