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Old 12-26-2006, 10:16 AM
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Default Can LEO's buy "off list" handguns in CA?

If so, I've been looking at the Taurus PT1911. I'm thinking I can have one of my parents purchase, then sometime down the road, do a PPT. I know that it would be taking advantage of a loophole, but enacting a law that says you have to have a loaded chamber indicator and a mag disconnect to make a handgun safe is crazy.
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:39 AM
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I think peace officers are exempted from the list. Search is your best option. Or call DOJ and see what BS the give you and come back and tell us .
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Old 12-26-2006, 10:40 AM
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Yes, unless the laws have changed (very possible), LEOs are exempt and can purchase firearms not on the approved list. I'm guessing it would require signed letter head from the chief stating that the firearm was for duty purposes or maybe just a copy of the PD ID before the distributor would ship it to the local FFL. This is the process we used to have to go through for individual officer purchases for firearms with regular capacity magazines.
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enacting a law that says you have to have a loaded chamber indicator and a mag disconnect to make a handgun safe is crazy.
Of course it is.

See my comment #4 in this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=44765
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Old 12-26-2006, 2:14 PM
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Peace officers can buy handguns that are not on the approved list as well as ARs; however, it requires a letter from their depratment on official letterhead (Per DOJ). They can also purchase hi-cap mags, but those don't require a letter. Some shops keep guns in the back that they show only to LEOs that come in, and the Old Sacramento Armory has a case with handguns that are available only to LEOs.
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Old 12-26-2006, 3:06 PM
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Yes they can buy off list handguns and i wish gun shops would keep them in back or in a case marked l.e. only because it sucks when you walk in to the local gun shop and see a kel-tec p3at on the shelf and get all excited till you see l.e. sales only on the tag
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Old 12-26-2006, 3:18 PM
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The signed letter exempts the LEO from the 10 day waiting period. I believe they are exempted from the approved list simply for being a peace officer. AWs must be approved on signed, dept. letterhead, and subsequently registered.

Stupid laws..
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Not exempt from approved list without letterhead.

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The signed letter exempts the LEO from the 10 day waiting period. I believe they are exempted from the approved list simply for being a peace officer. AWs must be approved on signed, dept. letterhead, and subsequently registered.

Stupid laws..
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Can LEOs buy AKs? I mean... LEOs don't exactly run into situations where the extra range of an AR is needed... and these aren't FA.... in semi auto an AK has a larger bullet. Plus there are modern AK74s with decent accuracy.

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Basically a LEO can get anything that his department is willing to let him carry.
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I hope the NRA will take on the special treatment L.E.O get in this state. They are civilians just like us and therefore have to have the exact same privileges we do, or in the case of firearms - don't.
If they need special tools for their job, then it is up to the state to equip them with such tools. There should not be ANY exceptions to this. I suspect that if the NRA would fight this, we would have the entire LEO community switch sides, and won't see any Oakland PD commercials about how evil 50BMGs are!
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As far as I know, LEO's can have Off-List CA Handguns and high cap mags. But they're restricted to what their Dept. allows them to carry on duty or what they qualify with. Also the 1 handgun a month CA .policy doen't apply to LEOs.
On assualt rifles/shotgun, LEOs have to an Approved Dept. letterhead signed by person of Authority which permits that officer is certified to purchase an assault rifle like a SIG 556!

There are some good perks being a LEO!
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As far as I know, I think LEO's can only buy hi-cap magazines for their assigned duty weapons. I only bought hi-cap mags for my duty Glock 19, but not for any of my other weapon. The times I bought my mags the police supply shop copied the info on my creds. Never tried or knew to take advantage of this so-called "perk." A far as long guns goes, I know that you need the chief or the head of your office to sign off on official letterhead and then need to qual with the weapon. But my agency issues us our individual long guns, so I won't even dare ask!!

Do I believe civilians should be able to buy hi-caps and AR's? Absolutely!! As much fun and love I have for my job, I still am a gun owner, and I still have to comply with the laws of this state and ATF. I still had to register my AR six years ago (have the DOJ letter to prove it) een though I am a LEO. I am building two OLL's right now, and they will be CA compliant (fixed ten round mags) because I have to follow the law. If they allow law abidding citizens to buy hi-caps and AR's, I would benefit too!! It would be less of a hassle for me too.

Just my two cents from an average LEO
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