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Old 07-20-2016, 9:48 PM
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Default Heinie is making "Straight 8" sights for EMP...

I have used Heinie Straight 8 sights on all my pistols since I can remember. It's only natural I would want them on my new EMP. Heinie makes sights that fit the gun but are to high and require slide work to properly line up with the front sight.

I contacted Springfield to see when they could accept a weapon for custom work. They sent me an email back with a contact and number for Heinie direct and said they think a sight exists that doesn't require machining.

Heinie said they are developing a proper rear sight for the EMP. The estimate for they gave me was 8 weeks.

Can't wait...
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There has been enough EMPs sold and enough sent back to SA custom work department just for this mod. Was only a matter of time before Heinie saw the $$.

+1 for me. I'll be buying a set of " Ledge" sights as soon as they're available.
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Who is Heinie, what is a straight eight and what is a EMP?

Heinie is....he is making a new.....that can be used on.....

If the man in credible and making a good product that fits on particular models of handguns then great. Do tell. I understand the long wait thing.

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Who is Heinie, what is a straight eight and what is a EMP?



Heinie is....he is making a new.....that can be used on.....



If the man in credible and making a good product that fits on particular models of handguns then great. Do tell. I understand the long wait thing.


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I am serious.

The name Heinie goes way back to the early 1980s with custom, not semi custom, 1911s in 45acp. But I think he was mostly East Coast and I never saw anyone using his work day in and day successfully for years so that's why Heinie needs clarification. Just because I didn't see his work is no reflection on whether or not his work is good or bad.

The 8 inch thing; is that a sight radius or travel distance, size of a target...what?

EMP...do tell. I'm on the range all the time. That means I haven't been keeping up with the I Don't Practice Anymore recreational shooter's jargon.

EMP...An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is an intense burst of electromagnetic (EM) energy caused by an abrupt, rapid acceleration of charged particles, usually electron s. An EMP can contain energy components over a large part of the EM spectrum , from very-low-frequency ( VLF ) radio to ultraviolet ( UV ) wavelength s.

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I am serious.

The name Heinie goes way back to the early 1980s with custom, not semi custom, 1911s in 45acp. But I think he was mostly East Coast and I never saw anyone using his work day in and day successfully for years so that's why Heinie needs clarification. Just because I didn't see his work is no reflection on whether or not his work is good or bad.

The 8 inch thing; is that a sight radius or travel distance, size of a target...what?

EMP...do tell. I'm on the range all the time. That means I haven't been keeping up with the I Don't Practice Anymore recreational shooter's jargon.




EMP...An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is an intense burst of electromagnetic (EM) energy caused by an abrupt, rapid acceleration of charged particles, usually electron s. An EMP can contain energy components over a large part of the EM spectrum , from very-low-frequency ( VLF ) radio to ultraviolet ( UV ) wavelength s.

Heinie's business is predominantly sights these days. The straight 8 is a style of sight he created. The front sight has a larger dot and the rear sight has a smaller dot. It draws your eye to the front sight much more effectively than the standard 3 dot setup (IMO).

The EMP is springfield's Enhanced Micro Pistol. A shrunken down 1911 designed around the 9mm cartridge.



And just out of curiosity did you think the attitude would make you sound cool?
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The name Heinie goes way back to the early 1980s with custom, not semi custom, 1911s in 45acp. But I think he was mostly East Coast and I never saw anyone using his work day in and day successfully for years so that's why Heinie needs clarification. Just because I didn't see his work is no reflection on whether or not his work is good or bad.



The 8 inch thing; is that a sight radius or travel distance, size of a target...what?



EMP...do tell. I'm on the range all the time. That means I haven't been keeping up with the I Don't Practice Anymore recreational shooter's jargon.



EMP...An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is an intense burst of electromagnetic (EM) energy caused by an abrupt, rapid acceleration of charged particles, usually electron s. An EMP can contain energy components over a large part of the EM spectrum , from very-low-frequency ( VLF ) radio to ultraviolet ( UV ) wavelength s.


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If someone in the industry is putting out a good product or service then they deserve recognition.

The attitude and cool factor belong to those that think they have the inside information while the rest of us uninitiated act like we know what is actually being discussed so we can be cool too. And when I see it I call them out.
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The attitude and cool factor belong to those that think they have the inside information while the rest of us uninitiated act like we know what is actually being discussed so we can be cool too. And when I see it I call them out.


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I'll be looking into this too. I really liked the Straight 8's on my Specialist, the Pro I Dots on my G26 are similar but not made for the EMP. I've got Trijicon HD's on my 4" ROC but I'm afraid they'd look too huge on the EMP.
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So after a long wait and half a dozen emails I finally got my hands on a new rear sight. HEINIE Straight-8 "LEDGE" night sight. After calling every shop if they can remove a rear sight without a drop off I ordered a sight removal tool off amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016X...gwL&ref=plSrch
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So after a long wait and half a dozen emails I finally got my hands on a new rear sight. HEINIE Straight-8 "LEDGE" night sight. After calling every shop if they can remove a rear sight without a drop off I ordered a sight removal tool off amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016X...gwL&ref=plSrch
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The new sight is the ULTRA Lo-pro machined to line up with the factory Front Sight. $105 shipped.
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That looks great. I love Heinie straight-8 ledges on carry guns.
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I agree, the Ledge Straight-8s are my favorite CCW sight too. Wider notch, single dot. I'll give a review of whether or not it changes POA POI.
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The Straight 8s are among my favorite 1911 sights. Glad he's making them for the EMP now.
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So after a long wait and half a dozen emails I finally got my hands on a new rear sight. HEINIE Straight-8 "LEDGE" night sight. After calling every shop if they can remove a rear sight without a drop off I ordered a sight removal tool off amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016X...gwL&ref=plSrch


That tool is a POS bro. The only good tool available is the pro tool that costs about $300 to really make sure it's done right. Here's the other issue, the EMP's rear sight is on there REAL tight. You would be better off with a vice, hammer and brass punch. If you don't have those skills (it's not that easy for the inexperienced) i would highly suggest you take this job to a smith. Dave @ Daves Metal Works can crank that out for you in no time.
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That tool is a POS bro. The only good tool available is the pro tool that costs about $300 to really make sure it's done right. Here's the other issue, the EMP's rear sight is on there REAL tight. You would be better off with a vice, hammer and brass punch. If you don't have those skills (it's not that easy for the inexperienced) i would highly suggest you take this job to a smith. Dave @ Daves Metal Works can crank that out for you in no time.
Did you look at the pics? The sight is already installed.
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How well did the sight tool work?
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Did you look at the pics? The sight is already installed.


I hadn't. I'm surprised it worked out.
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I hadn't. I'm surprised it worked out.
I am too based on the looks of that sight pusher
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I save my bias for things I know don't work like socialism and communism, not tools that I can return. lol.

The tool worked perfectly. It took 10 minutes to get the old sight off and the Heinie slid in without a tool. The wrench turned easily and the sight came out without a problem. EMP sights are super tight and if the slide isn't in the tool properly you can mess up something.

Bottom line is, if you don't have the ability to foresee the list of possible problems, you'll mess up your slide, if not, you'll be fine and save a Benjamin in the process. The reviews were mostly great and using a punch and a vise ain't happening. If I can rebuild engines I figured I'd give a "cheap" tool a try. Glad I did, I recommend it...
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If I can rebuild engines I figured I'd give a "cheap" tool a try. Glad I did, I recommend it...


You're not exactly the typical CalGunner with skills that include rebuilding engines. Good on you bro but I think that tool still sucks *** for most people around here that can barely detail strip a glock.
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