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Old 06-21-2011, 5:15 PM
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Default So . . . . anybody got the newest Sig 522 recoil spring update ?

Ok after a few hours at the range last week I put a few hundred rounds through my Sig 522. Once I got home I checked the rifle and did a quick cleaning to find one of my e clips was bent. Well, I had heard stories about the faulty "tapered" guide rod etc etc and figured my rifle had the newest recoil spring parts. I called Sig to order a few e-clips (and a hand-guard rail kit) and to my surprise an even newer design is available that uses a pin to hold the guide rod in place.

Am I late to the party? I thought that the newest design still used two e-clips with a non tapered rod?

Showed up on my door today indeed included a new buffer, guide, spring, one e-clip,o-ring, and one pin.

anybody installed one? am I going to be the first?
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Old 06-21-2011, 10:07 PM
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Pics would be nice. I picked up a bunch of extra clips at the hardware store but my spring isn't all that straight anymore after it grenaded.

If they finally came up with something that doesn't use those lame clips, I want my replacement parts too.
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:59 PM
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I guess I got the new bolt then because mines has 1 "e" clip on one end and a small metal type pin that runs half way threw the rod, let me tell you, but that pin is a pain to put in. Have had no problems so far since installed.
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I will try to take some pics later and post them

when you installed the pin did you use a punch or a set of pliers
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Pliers and tweezers...shot about 500+ rounds so far and no issues with the new bolt.
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Ok after a few hours at the range last week I put a few hundred rounds through my Sig 522. Once I got home I checked the rifle and did a quick cleaning to find one of my e clips was bent. Well, I had heard stories about the faulty "tapered" guide rod etc etc and figured my rifle had the newest recoil spring parts. I called Sig to order a few e-clips (and a hand-guard rail kit) and to my surprise an even newer design is available that uses a pin to hold the guide rod in place.

Am I late to the party? I thought that the newest design still used two e-clips with a non tapered rod?

Showed up on my door today indeed included a new buffer, guide, spring, one e-clip,o-ring, and one pin.

anybody installed one? am I going to be the first?
Is this a free replacement kit Sig is offering to owners with the older 522s with the e-clips
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I took my Sig 522 to the range on Monday. I've put a total of 1600 rounds through it now. I went to take it apart to clean it tonight, and the e-clip had failed so the bolt exploded when I took out the take-down pin

Looks like I'll be calling Sig tomorrow.

I'm bummed. I bought the rifle new only 2 months ago. It had the newer design of e-clips...
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Old 06-22-2011, 9:40 PM
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I took my Sig 522 to the range on Monday. I've put a total of 1600 rounds through it now. I went to take it apart to clean it tonight, and the e-clip had failed so the bolt exploded when I took out the take-down pin

Looks like I'll be calling Sig tomorrow.

I'm bummed. I bought the rifle new only 2 months ago. It had the newer design of e-clips...

The whole e-clip design is junk. Let me know how the hour long 'on hold' phone call thing goes. It looks like phoning is the only way to talk to CS.
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Old 06-23-2011, 6:37 AM
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yea, the hold time is long but, once you get someone on the phone they are usually a pleasure to deal with.
They even shipped fast (for me at least) so its hard to complain.
Yes this kit was free I didn't even give them a S/N but I did send in my warranty card so they might have had that info on their database.

Here is a picture I snagged from ar15. com it is not my picture so I can't take credit for it.

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The whole e-clip design is junk. Let me know how the hour long 'on hold' phone call thing goes. It looks like phoning is the only way to talk to CS.
Maybe I was real lucky, but I got through to customer service this morning without any wait. I spoke with a rep who took my mailing address and gave me a confirmation #.

Now I just have to wait for my "upgrade".

I looked at the picture of the upgrade kit, but I'm still a little concerned as it was my rear e-clip which failed. The redesigned parts look like they only fix the front e-clip - it doesn't look as though it would prevent the failure I had from reoccurring...
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Old 06-23-2011, 8:00 AM
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heres a pic of my bolt, do i have the new or old one?




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Old 06-23-2011, 8:12 AM
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Unless my eyes are failing me I think I see a pin at the front of the guide rod in your second photo, which would make it the most recent version.

In your first photo is it my imagination or is the e-clip slightly bent at the top/right side? The photo isn't that clear....

The reason I ask is because that is the e-clip which failed on my bolt.
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Old 06-23-2011, 8:18 AM
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so i have the most recent one but may still run into some issues with the e-clip

it honestly looks to be a bit bent

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so i have the most recent one but may still run into some issues with the e-clip

it honestly looks to be a bit bent

thanks
Maybe I'm paranoid because mine just broke - but why did they only replace one of the two e-clips with a pin? Why not both?
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Old 06-23-2011, 8:54 AM
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i know right, thats weird, if mine does fail i will probably have my local smith just pin it instead of the stubborn and unreliable eclips
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Old 06-23-2011, 6:09 PM
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Just bent the hell out of the roll pin.

I wonder what kind of tolerances they accept on this stuff because I would guess the hole is a little to small? used the proper punch, that sucker just wouldn't drive in,

Well, tomorrow after work I guess I will head over to the local gunsmith and see what he can do for me, maybe I will ask him about overhauling the entire bolt.
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im sure that e clip is available at most hardware stores, maybe we can just find a way to get/replace that with a "heavier" duty one? it would be a shame if this rifle goes bust on me, i love this thing so accurate, eats all types of ammo and so far its been solid
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Mine is the old tapered rod with e clips on both ends junk. I'll give them a call sometime. My Sig mostly collects dust but part of it was because of this issue. Maybe when I get better parts I will want to shoot it again.
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i used to take my 10/22 with me to every range trip, now i take this all the time everytime, got mine in may it came with the heavy barrel which i havent used
but so far o probably have about 1k rounds of all sorts of ammo thru it

love this thing
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Ok, found a new pin at Napa auto (didn't think to look for clips) installed just fine, I need to grind a little off to keep it in spec. Now I decided to modify this "new" front rod and keep it in the tool box until the old 2 clip setup fails again. I really want to just fabricate my own heavy duty system so if the bolt breaks again I will slap the "prototype" in and see how it works. Still in the process of working with a gunsmith to hold the rear buffer in place, maybe next weekend . . . .
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I called Sig this past Tuesday about one, I should be getting it in sometime next week.
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Ok, found a new pin at Napa auto (didn't think to look for clips) installed just fine, I need to grind a little off to keep it in spec. Now I decided to modify this "new" front rod and keep it in the tool box until the old 2 clip setup fails again. I really want to just fabricate my own heavy duty system so if the bolt breaks again I will slap the "prototype" in and see how it works. Still in the process of working with a gunsmith to hold the rear buffer in place, maybe next weekend . . . .
can u take a pic of how u did your own pin? thanks
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Sig shouldve given a lil longer pin then you either cut or grind when you get it securley in there. I believe it would be a pain to remove also, that's why they keep the e-clip in front just in case you need to replace spring or bolt stop.( just a thought)

Not a big deal to pick up a couple back up e-clips
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I found that Home Depot had the correct size E clips (for the original design rod anyway) about a year ago if anybody is trying to find them. Lowes may have them as well but I'm not sure but I'm sure Home Depot has them.
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I found that Home Depot had the correct size E clips (for the original design rod anyway) about a year ago if anybody is trying to find them. Lowes may have them as well but I'm not sure but I'm sure Home Depot has them.
Thanks for the tip Chad!

I picked up a packet of their 1/8 inch e-clips and tried it out to see if it would fit - it did!

I'll try it out at the range next time I'm there if my upgrade kit hasn't arrived yet.
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^^^^ I'm going to Home Depot tonight after work. I will check it out and see if maybe I can find some.


Calgunz420- I couldn't agree with you more, the whole design just seems a little screwy now that i have it apart. It kind of reminds me the paintball guns I used to play with as a kid.
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My bolt upgrade kit hasn't arrived yet so I took my 522 to the range yesterday with one of the Home Depot e-clips to try it out. I fired 550 rounds of Winchester ammo through it and the e-clip held up!

Thanks for the tip Chad! a 30 cent solution has me up and running again

Now I just need to contact Sig again to see what happened to my bolt kit...
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Well my bolt kit FINALLY arrived. It took Sig two weeks to send it to me

I'm going to hold onto it until the next e-clip breaks and then install it...
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can u please post pics?
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can u please post pics?
It's EXACTLY the same as the picture that MetalMagic posted at the top of the thread. Right down to the part # on the plastic bag...

There's 6 parts:

- e-clip
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- recoil spring
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ok gotcha thanks
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