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Old 05-20-2011, 11:03 PM
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Default Trijicon RMR red dot on my Glock 19

Got my TSD-19 slide today from One Source Tactical (Gabe Suarez & company). Complete slide with 6.5 MOA Trijicon RMR LED, stainless barrel & recoil spring, complete internals, and suppressor sights. I'm using my factory barrel since I like the all black look.

I went to the range tonight and dialed in the RMR. It takes a little getting used to, but as long as you focus on the sights and not trying to look for the red dot, then the red dot will appear on its own once you have the suppressor sights aligned on the target. Then it's really easy to keep both eyes open and shoot the target fast since you're co-witnessing with the sights. I was hitting dead center at 20 yards easily tonight.

Can't wait to take it with me to TX next week and play around with my AAC can, since I now have taller sights to see over it.









My new CA HD setup.

When playing around with it compared to my factory slide with Trijicon night sights, the night sights are better if it's pitch black and you're not running a light on the gun. But as soon as that light comes on, you can't see the night sights. With the RMR, you can still see the red dot when the light is on so it's much easier to acquire a target more accurately. I want to play around with this during a night shoot or low light class.







The Glock with RMR and suppressor sights still fits perfectly in my Fobus Evolution holster. No modifications were needed.


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Old 05-20-2011, 11:31 PM
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Sweet. Im glad you posted a pic of how big the dot is. Seeing that I think I'm going to get the largest dot possible (I think they have a 13 moa one). Not to bring you down, but I think if you would have gone bigger, then it would have been much easier/faster to pick up. At the same token, you will be much more accurate with the smaller dot.

BTW, what material is on your grip? It looks really sticky!
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Wow, thats pretty awesome.

It's too bad nobody does these kinds of modifications for Sigs...
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Thanks for the post. Looks great!
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Been in the.market for a fnp 45 tac......but I have a G20 that wil be recieving the treatement now instead.....thanks for inspiration.
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Very nice
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Damn. Now thats sexy...
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BTW, what material is on your grip? It looks really sticky!
Decal Grip rubber grip. Easier on my hands than the sand paper material.


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Been in the.market for a fnp 45 tac......but I have a G20 that wil be recieving the treatement now instead.....thanks for inspiration.
I too was also looking into the FNP 45 Tactical models. But after getting the FNP and the RMR and a few other things, you're almost at $2k. Plus, I love shooting my Glock and I'm used to that. When I saw this setup being ran, I decided to go with this route.

I know OSD carries the G20 complete slides, as they had a couple for sale recently with the Trijicon RMR and suppressor sights
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With all this talk about red dots on pistols, I'm intersted in one now but dont want to spend as much. What other options are there?
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how much $$$ for the complete upper if you don't mind me asking?
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With all this talk about red dots on pistols, I'm intersted in one now but dont want to spend as much. What other options are there?
I've seen DeltaPoint reflex sights that will fit into the rear sight slot so you don't have to mill the slide, but they're still expensive ($350-$400 from what I've seen). Plus, I've only seen them with a 3.5 MOA, which is very small for a handgun but perfect for a long gun. Most people recommend a 6.5 or 8 MOA reflex sight for a handgun.



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how much $$$ for the complete upper if you don't mind me asking?
Everything was $1400, but that's the complete slide with mill work and 6.5 MOA Trijicon RMR-A (new & improved model), stainless barrel & recoil spring, complete internals, and suppressor sights. I could've paid about $500 less if I sent in my original slide, but I like having a complete spare slide to use.... or sell later if I ever decide to, but I doubt it since it's so much fun to shoot this way .
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That mounts on real nice, thats a real nice G19
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I took the gun out to the range today doing some different distance shoots, from 7 yards, 15 yards, and 25 yards onto a small 6" shoot-n-c target. As long as you hold the gun steady and have a clean trigger pull, you're always going to put a bullet exactly where the red dot is on the target.

I felt like I was cheating or something when I was putting a 2" grouping at 7 yards away. Even at 25 yards, as long as you take your time with your stance, grip, and breathing, then it's very easy to still keep a tight grouping at that distance. The funny thing was seeing the other guy's reaction in the lane next to me when he saw that I was shooting a handgun at that range and getting better groupings than he was with his scoped 10/22.


I also updated the 1st post with the gun in my Fobus Evolution holster. The RMR clears perfectly and so do the suppressor sights. No modifications needed, whereas I've seen people having to cut their holsters in order to clear the RMR (Serpa was one of them).
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I've seen DeltaPoint reflex sights that will fit into the rear sight slot so you don't have to mill the slide, but they're still expensive ($350-$400 from what I've seen). Plus, I've only seen them with a 3.5 MOA, which is very small for a handgun but perfect for a long gun. Most people recommend a 6.5 or 8 MOA reflex sight for a handgun.
There's a triangle "dot" that's 7.5 MOA for the DeltaPoints. Leupold calls it a "delta" instead of a "dot." See http://www.leupold.com/tactical/prod...-reflex-sight/.
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Turn off all the lights, then work your presentations without the suppressor sight for a reference. May want to get some suppressor night sights.
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Not to bring you down, but I think if you would have gone bigger, then it would have been much easier/faster to pick up.
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Most people recommend a 6.5 or 8 MOA reflex sight for a handgun.
............ ^ +1 - I've got the 8 moa led RMR.
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Wow! That looks awesome! I might be sending my M&P down to them to get it done as well. I like how they place the sight behind the RMR instead of putting it in front like others. Not bad at all.

Do you notice a change in your POI with the suppressor sights?
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Looks great! I've been thinking about doing the same thing to my Glock 34.

I wonder though why people generally choose the LED vs the Dual Illumination?

How much did it cost to get the RMR installed?
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Wow. Neat setup. The Calgunner I picked up my G34 slide from, has a similar setup with his G27 and G35. Says this setup has done wonders for him.
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I wonder though why people generally choose the LED vs the Dual Illumination?
Preference. Red dot vs. Amber dot. 8/6.5 moa dot vs. 13/9/7 moa dot. CR2032 battery vs. Fiber optic/tritium. I prefer the red dot and its intensity as well as the fact that the battery life is well over a year.
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Looks good! I am debating on the sight,sights for my g30 was thinking the dot would drown out my target. I looked at a Leopold delta point 3.5 moa looked kind of big for me. Then again I am used to my eotec.1 moa. Yours looks good.
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Looks good. I want to see some pics with the suppressor
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I wonder though why people generally choose the LED vs the Dual Illumination?
Like the previous guy said with the differences, those are the main things. Also, the 1 main thing is that some places (other countries) may not have the CR2032 battery readily available to them. Where as, you can go down to most stores in your area (Target, Walmart, any drug store) and find one of these batteries.

Lots of people have tested these Trijicon RMR's and the battery has lasted them well past a year. You don't notice the red dot not powering on, but rather it slowly fading to a lighter glow (which you could just adjust & brighten up with the RMR-A). Mine has 8 settings, and I have to keep mine on 2 or 3 since anything beyond that is too bright and the dot gets too big for me.



After playing around with it more and having my novice shooter wife shoot with the RMR on the Glock, it has really changed her shooting and accuracy. She has a poor stance, poor grip, and her aim is either dead on or all over the place (a lot of times not even on the paper at 7 yards out). With the red dot, I tell her to put the dot onto the center of the target and pull the trigger.... she can now put a decent grouping onto the paper at 7 yards. Albeight, it's not a small quarter-sized grouping, but it's still all center body mass within a 12" radius. IMO, that's a vast improvement in her aim than without it.
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Looks good. I want to see some pics with the suppressor

I already posted this in the Glock gallery thread, but here you go. My TX setup




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