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Old 04-23-2011, 12:22 PM
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Default The Lost Art of "Cut Shells"

The Lost Art of "Cut Shells." Amazed that I never heard about this before. A poor man's slug...

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Old 04-23-2011, 12:24 PM
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Yep, my nieghbor showed me this. He said his dad used this to kill deer back during WW II when ammo was so hard to get. Looks like it would work and would be good to know in an emergency.
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It just goes to show you. I thought this was part of "universal gun lore" passed on from one generation to the next.
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There probably at least one new thread about this idea on calguns every other month.
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I think Sun and Ajax did a write up about this a few years ago.

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I think Sun and Ajax did a write up about this a few years ago.

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indeed they did. anyone know if this'll work through a modified choke?
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indeed they did. anyone know if this'll work through a modified choke?
The shotgun used in the video has a modified choke...
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chris costa show you how to do that in the magpul shotgun dvd too.
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I would assume that this would not cycle through a pump or semi auto very well. Still could be useful if you were desperate and loaded one at a time. If I'm wrong please correct me.
I really do hope this works well im a pump such as a Mossberg 500. I've been looking to pick one up and this looks like a greaaaattt way to practice slugs at birdshot cost.
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I have heard that this can be risky. One guy who was used to using cut shells and knew that they didn't work so well with reloads, nevertheless fired one made from a reload. The wad opened just before the choke and he spent his afternoon cleaning the wad and part of the hull from the barrel. I wonder what would happen if he didn't realize some of his last shell's hull and wadding was still in the barrel and he fired a second round?
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I really do hope this works well im a pump such as a Mossberg 500. I've been looking to pick one up and this looks like a greaaaattt way to practice slugs at birdshot cost.
I'd be careful, it would be easy to forget to check the chamber and get a nice KB from a bore obstruction. It would be real nice on a double or single barrel though.
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Opening up the top and pouring melted wax in is another one similar to this.
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I'd be careful, it would be easy to forget to check the chamber and get a nice KB from a bore obstruction. It would be real nice on a double or single barrel though.
I really appreciate the tip. This is something I did not think about until you mentioned it. Now I know better than to try to rapid fire (well shoot without checking the chamber) if I do this little trick.
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Opening up the top and pouring melted wax in is another one similar to this.
would that foul the barrel?
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Opening up the top and pouring melted wax in is another one similar to this.
And a helluva lot safer!
"Cutting a wad" is a good way to bulge or split a barrel, and/or open up a choke. Play with fire, and sooner or later you'll get burnt.
Also, either one will get you in a bunch of trouble if you have them in your possession in the field during bird season.
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I would assume that this would not cycle through a pump or semi auto very well. Still could be useful if you were desperate and loaded one at a time. If I'm wrong please correct me.
What can cycle in a pump, is a wax/lead shot slug. Open the end of a bird shot load and pour in melted wax. The wax holds the shot together until impact.
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I really appreciate the tip. This is something I did not think about until you mentioned it. Now I know better than to try to rapid fire (well shoot without checking the chamber) if I do this little trick.
The chamber isn't enough. The obstruction can be far down the barrel towards the muzzle.
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I think we killed the video. I can see it but, it never finishes loading.
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I think we killed the video. I can see it but, it never finishes loading.
switch it to 240p
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I tried changing the resolution but, even though I can see a list of settings it won't let me change to any of them. All I get are the dots spinning in a circle.
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Already done. I just updated Flash Player yesterday. I can play about three out of every four video links in you tube. I'm just going to uninstall all prior versions of Flash player and reinstall the most current version. Back in a minute.
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That didn't work, However; I was able to pull up an embedded version using the video stats list and watch an embedded version. This seems to effect only videos that have the play button in the middle of the screen and only on you tube itself.
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On a side note, for op's video, does anyone think the resemblance is uncanny?

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What can cycle in a pump, is a wax/lead shot slug. Open the end of a bird shot load and pour in melted wax. The wax holds the shot together until impact.
so you're in the field... need a "slug" type round but don't have one... your alternative is either cut the back of the shell as shown.. or open it up, melt some wax, pour it in the hole - wait for it to set.. then load it and fire?

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so you're in the field... need a "slug" type round but don't have one... your alternative is either cut the back of the shell as shown.. or open it up, melt some wax, pour it in the hole - wait for it to set.. then load it and fire?

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The melted wax trick was used back during the depression to hunt deer. That was done before going out to hunt.

If needed in the field, cut the shell.
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It worked in Moss 590.

Three tabs left uncut works great. It fed from mag tube.

I tried cut like the guy did on video. But the shell almost became two part. Was able to drop it into chamber but I did not want to try to put it in tube.

After first shot I used my cell phone camera to check bore for any obstruction, was all clear, so I tried couple more times.

Nice to know it works in my shotgun.
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It worked in Moss 590.

Three tabs left uncut works great. It fed from mag tube.

I tried cut like the guy did on video. But the shell almost became two part. Was able to drop it into chamber but I did not want to try to put it in tube.

After first shot I used my cell phone camera to check bore for any obstruction, was all clear, so I tried couple more times.

Nice to know it works in my shotgun.
It will work fine until it doesn't.
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Lol, erections work fine... Until it doesn't. Cars always run good until it dies... Guns always fired until operator misuse and KB.
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It takes a helluva lot to bulge a shotgun barrel... especially with a cylinder bore... (what I run when I shoot these)

one of these days when I make it out to a free state I'm going to have to force a stuck outer hull and shoot a second load through it.

My dollar is bet on it just clearing itself.

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The melted wax trick was used back during the depression to hunt deer. That was done before going out to hunt.

If needed in the field, cut the shell.
Also notable is that the cut shells don't feed very well whereas wax shells feed normally.
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We used to cut them out and leave 2 tabs on either side. He's saying completely cut all the way around the thing. I have cut them and leave an eighth inch tab or so on either side and actually cut away 1/4" of material all the way around if that makes sense.
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This method is not for "Cheap" slug practice. It is strictly for emergency etc. I would not get to crazy about it. Also there actually not as effective as slugs
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Ive made about 10 of these cut shell slugs so far, they were great. Set up 2 pieces of ply wood and 1 big slug hole on the first one then a spray of birdshot on the second. Wish I had a pumpkin that day. The little half shell didn't want to extract every time, but it was sure fun for a couple rounds.
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i'd rather wax them. Might be a good way for a little more fun with the Universal crap.
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The waxed shells will work in any type shotgun, but I believe the cut ones were originally for single shot and SxS shotguns.
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I heard about this on Dynamic shotgun too and Costa specifically said this round goes directly into the chamber not the magazine tube and if you don't fire it for whatever reason dispose of it I would have to agree.
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