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Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves. Jesus, the Christ (The Bible, "The Gospel According to Matthew," chapter 10, verse 16)

The five most important things to avoid (I, II) or get you out of (III, IV, and V) all sorts of trouble (in order of priority):

(I) Use Cooper's Color Code.

(II) Obeying The 4-S Rule helps minimize Bad Guys' (BGs): (1) means (ability), (2) motive (intent), and/or (3) opportunity to harm you.

The 4-S Rule is to avoid:

(1) being around Stupid people (profile & stereotype people acc. to: their words, tone of voice; their facial expression, body language, and attitude; their appearance (the style of their grooming, clothes, car, and home); their race (race & crime are strongly correlated), esp vis-a-vis yours; their friends (gang members, convicts, heavy drinkers, drug users); their wealth (poor people & crime are moderately correlated); their level of mental dis-order manifest externally by disorganization in their lives: lack of cleanliness & order of their grooming, clothes, car, workspace, and/or home; the type of music they listen to (Have you ever heard of a fight breaking out at a classical music concert?); whether they obey the 4-S Rule. (This last point is regarding how likely they are to bring troublemakers into your life, even if they themselves don't cause you problems. Thus, be careful with whom you associate, esp with whom you live, and this goes double for women. One gal's foolishness caused her to be robbed & raped as she walked home late at night and then her two roommates to be robbed & raped as well when the BGs forced her to take them to her apartment complex and forced her to unlock the security doors.)





Profiling is merely an application of the Duck Test.

(2) Avoid going to Stupid places (profile entire cities or all parts of it to know the "rough" parts of town; drinking/drug parties; some discos/dance clubs; gambling joints; strip clubs, brothels; shadowy or dark places; places where you are isolated, by yourself or alone w/the BG/s; free events (e.g., fireworks shows, music concerts), that more low class people will attend). Public transportation (depending upon the route/line), esp buses; nightclubs and bars; convenience stores; and movie theaters may qualify as "Stupid places" if they regularly have "Stupid people" as customers. Websites like http://sanfrancisco.crimespotting.org, http://oakland.crimespotting.org/, and http://www.crimereports.com can help you determine the criminal risks of your school, work, worship, and residence locations. But note: many times crimes are not reported because the witnesses or victims themselves are criminals or are afraid of retaliation, and many times with the ones that get called in, the police refuse to take and file a report.

(3) Avoid doing Stupid things (getting drunk out (ideally don't even drink when away from home); gambling; buying/using/selling drugs; using prostitutes, love triangles).

And/or

(4) Avoid being out at Stupid times (11 pm until dawn; dusk until dawn if you want to be super safe or the times are particularly dangerous). A McDonald's, IHOP, Denny's, Chuck E. Cheese's, or Waffle House may be safe during the day, yet dangerous after 9pm.

Apply the 4-S Rule to: (1) where you live; where family members go: (2) to school, (3) to work, (4) to worship, and (5) to shop/dine. If you ever have to defend yourself and you are charged, your jurors will be selected from the county in which the incident occurred.

The Tayvon Martin shooting is a perfect example of why I put "Crime Avoidance" advice ahead of "Self-Defense" advice, esp w/a gun.

(III) Because a gun is not the answer to every -- or even most -- physical confrontations:
* Keep yourself "fighting fit" (BGs profile potential victims and are more likely to attack smaller, weaker and/or timid GGs).
* Practice combatives/MMA. Consider Krav Maga.

* Carry pepper spray and keep some in your car (the max. legal size in CA is 2.5 oz per container, so stash a few of them in your car). (N.B. pepper spray can fail, just like Tasers can fail, and guns can fail (that last link shows a semi jamming as well as pepper spray failing)). Do NOT carry bear spray or insect spray since those are classified as poisons and you may be charged with "assault with a deadly weapon" or worse (attempted poisoning).
* Carry a "tactical" flashlight bright enough to temporarily blind and stun a man or dog at night (50 lumens minimum, the more the better). It will give you a brief opportunity to run away or fight back more effectively.
* Carry a knife/knives (easy to carry, don't jam, don't run dry). But note well: you can only use a knife when you could legally use a gun or any other form of deadly force -- in defense of life or to stop/prevent severe bodily injury (which includes rape).

While strangers may come to your aid, don't count on them (that last video also illustrates the old saying that you should never take your eyes off your opponent because "They kill with their hands"). Security guards and even the police may just watch from the side lines (note the sheriff's deputy watching the fight from inside at 24 - 35 seconds). Wear clothing, esp. shoes, suitable for "fight or flight."

(IV) If you have a License to Carry (LTC), carry every place you legally can, even if it is "only" a .32 S&W or .38 Spl snubbie, or a .32 acp or .380 acp semi. Go thru the examples of "LTCers saving lives". In not a single case did the LTCer know ahead of time they'd need to carry that day (i.e., they had no reason, no "Good Cause", to carry that day). Plus, "there's never a cop around when you need one." Most BGs are smart enough to look around for LEOs before attacking. You need your own gun for when there's not a LEO around. Don't expect the BG to let you use your cellphone to call 9-1-1 and then wait until the police arrive before attacking you.

Carry a handgun so that you are armed when you enter your home or office. There have been several cases of LTCers coming home and confronting an armed BG. You don't want to find a BG has been waiting for you to come home, especially if you are a woman....

If someone says carrying a handgun is paranoid or extreme, tell them as of 2015, there are 12.8M CCWers in the US -- 5.2% of the adult US population (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/16...s-study-claims).

Know the difference between a psychological stop (BG stops fighting or faints) and a physiological stop (BG is unable to fight). See: "One-Shot Drops: Surviving the Myth" (FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin, Oct 2004). If you are justified in shooting a BG once, you're justified in immediately emptying your gun into him. You are in a fight for your life -- never forget that.

To learn about the right attitude to prevail in a deadly encounter, read (and watch below) about watch shop owner, the uber bad Lance Thomas. Like Lance, be psychologically prepared to get shot and yet keep on fighting.



Ladies may want to look into the Flashbang holster.

Regardless of whether you have a LTC, carry whenever you are at home (a good way to sort thru concealed carry issues before getting your LTC), and always sleep w/a functional gun readily available because 100% of home invasions occur at home (Duh!). As Clint Smith says, use your HGN to fight your way to your rifle (or shotgun).

When you are at home where you'll have more time to react (due to BGs needing to break in your home alerting you to danger), and more "gun resources" nearby (more ammo, another HGN or SGN and/or rifle), you may choose to carry a smaller HGN when home than when LTCing in public. Similarly, if you spend most of your time in relatively safe areas, you may choose to LTC something smaller than when you LTC in bad parts of town. But remember: (1) ALWAYS carry some sort of HGN (whenever and wherever you legally can), and (2) there are NO guarantees in life. You may still die. A violent home invasion by a team of BGs may happen to you and you'll wish you had something larger on your person than a 5-shot .38 or 7-shot .380. Be a "sheep" (clueless & defenseless), play the odds (the odds vary acc to our circumstances, but for most of us that means carrying a .32/.380 pocket pistol, .38 snubnose revolver, or a compact 9), or be "paranoid" (carry a full-size, hicap w/2 or more spare mags and a BUG (backup gun) or more): everyday everyone gets to choose which one they'll be. But you'll only be able to determine which one you were the next day . . . if you're still alive.

News stories re. guns used in self-defense:
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For ammo, when there's a toss up, I go w/the heavier bullets for self-defense for the higher sectional density. I'd rather face the unlikely risk of over penetration (i.e., bullet going thru BG and hitting a GG too), than the much more likely risk of under penetration (hitting but not sufficiently injuring the BG). The priorities are: (1) bullet placement (hard to do when someone else is trying to do the same thing to you!), (2) penetration (w/o over penetration) to hit vital organs/tissues, and then (3) bullet diameter: (a) original caliber (HPs may expand, but they don't contract), and (b) potential expanded diameter. More excellent information about terminal ballistics in the context of self-defense can be found at FirearmsTactical.com.

The less recoil a gun has, the more likely you are to get one or more hits on your target. The more hits on target, the better. But even if you destroy the BG's heart, there's enough oxygen in his blood for him to keep shooting/stabbing/fighting/whatever for up to 20 sec more if he's determined. Not all head shots are fatal or will even cause the BG to immediately stop what he is doing. Head shots are tough because the skull is small, hard, and moving and has many angled facets and curved surfaces. Lots of cases of bullets glancing off of the skull and skimming around under the skin. There are also many cases of bullets penetrating the skull and brain and yet not stopping, much less killing, the BG. So don't count on either chest shots or head shots: shoot the BG until he is no longer a threat -- "Shoot to the Ground" (STTG)! You'll literally be in a fight for your life -- expect it, prepare for it, and train for it.

Internalize the OODA Loop. Unless you see S before it HTF, you'll be making sure this is the real deal before drawing and shooting. Or it may be so obvious and the options so few that there is no thinking, only doing/reacting acc to your training (or lack thereof).

A gun doesn't always trump a knife, as is easily proven by the Tueller Drill.


A good overview of CA knife laws is here. Remember, "The loser of a knife fight goes to the morgue; the winner goes to the hospital."

And last,
(V) get some REALLY good training. I recommend Gabe Suarez who has courses integrating Point Shooting, H2H (hand-to-hand), FoF (force-on-force), low light, and/or knife work.

Shivworks and Tom Sotis' AMOK! offer excellent knife training.

1st priority for me is NOT getting injured or killed.
2nd priority will be stopping the BG/s.





Miscellaneous:
1) Always carry at minimum:
(1) a cell phone w/camera (but don't count on 9-1-1).

(2) A LED keychain flashlight. The Fenix LD09 flashlight (130-55-8 adjustable lumen version) is excellent for EDC IWB w/130 lumens being plenty bright to stun man or dog at night. Unfortunately, the LD09 is only made in black.

(3) A pepper spray pen (N.B. it sprays only 6 - 8 ft). Carrying the Mace PepperGard-Police nozzle down, either on the inside of your pant's pocket or waistband on your left side, or on the outside on your right side, is convenient and unobtrusive.

(4) A pocketknife. NEVER say this is a weapon -- it is a tool and be seen using it as such (letter opener, box cutter, utensil). A folder w/sub-3" blade are rarely banned by city/county ordinances in CA (outside of school/college campuses). A good choice for a pocketknife is a Mini-Barrage (2.9" blade) or Barrage (3.6") w/satin finished (not blackened) stainless steel blade customized with white, light blue (guys), or pink (gals) handles ("scales") for "political correctness" with sheeple jurors. (Standard versions are less expensive.)

Holsters are too inconvenient to ensure EDC and make you look paranoid to sheeple, thus pocket clips are vital. IWB ("inside the waist band") carry by clipping the knife behind your dominate hand side's hip and the penlight behind the other makes them readily accessible yet not stand out (wearing a belt conceals most of the pocket clips and even tucked in shirts "puff out" enough to cover top of knife and light). Thus, thinness is vital too, ruling out Li 123 and even most AA battery powered lights.

(add: Dom hand lethal force ONLY! Cornered Cat about women & guns.)

If you have a LTC,
(5) a NAA Mini Revolver where legal.

2) Try to avoid anything that screams "tactical" (e.g., is black), and makes you look like a Jack Bauer or Jason Bourne wannabe to LEOs, a DA, a judge, or "sheeple" jurors. If I were a lady and planned on carrying a .380, I'd track down either a good, used, limited edition pink Kahr P380 (IIRC, it was to support breast CA research), or raspberry Ruger LCP. Hopefully sometime they'll offer those in baby blue. (Perhaps to support prostate CA research?)

3) You can get creative with your defense rifle, as this man did in creating a pink Hello Kitty AR-15 for his wife. Some PC "assault weapon" substitutes are the Marlin 336SS, the Winchester Model 94, the Winchester 1892 or Rossi equivalent, and the Savage 10FCM Scout. The .30-30 of the 336 and Win '94 is slightly superior to the 7.62x39 of an AK-47. The .357 mag performs much better in a rifle than in a handgun. The .44 mag in a rifle recoils as much as a .30-30 due to its 220+ gr bullets. While both handgun cartridge LARs allow you to interchange ammo with a carry HGN, the .357 mag is more suitable for self-defense because the far greater recoil of .44 mag makes it more difficult to get back on target. Hornady's LEVERevolution ammo allows the safe use of superior pointed spitzer bullets in centerfire LARs' tubular magazines. Consider adding a red dot sight to these rifles, and good recoil pads to the LARs. Ordering the Savage Scout through their Special Orders department in the non-military and lighter recoiling caliber of 7mm-08 and/or stainless steel makes it even more PC.

4) Shotguns (SGNs) are excellent for defending a stationary position within your home (e.g., the master bedroom). Ideally, use hardened and copper plated #2 buckshot (not birdshot), such as Federal Premium Personal Defense loads. (#3 or 4 buckshot are acceptable alternatives.) I do not recommend 0 or 00 buck for use within a home due to their likelihood of penetrating walls -- you may not be able to get all family members safely into your master bedroom before needing to shoot. Outside of the home there is a place for 0 or 00 buck. Either 12 and 20 gauge will do the job within a house, with 20 gauge preferred for those who do not shoot a lot or are recoil shy. A gas-operated semi will recoil less than a pump. If you use your master bedroom as a rallying point, it should have a solid core door and heavy lock, like your front door.

5) Before buying a handgun try to shoot it first by borrowing it from someone, or by bringing quality ammo for it to a range and see if someone there will let you shoot theirs in exchange for the ammo, or by renting one at a range that has guns to rent. If you plan to LTC it, look into buying a holster for it and a Rings True Weight BlueGun replica of it to see if you can comfortably conceal it everyday. Test it while standing, sitting, bending over, reaching up, using a restroom, driving your car, running, jumping, MMA, etc. After you've decided on what to buy and carry, you can use the BlueGun when practicing "street" MMA. You can use the BlueGuns of the gun(s) you decided not to buy for practice, training others, or sell it.

Handguns are compromises, a balance of caliber vs capacity, power vs recoil & the speed of follow up shots, and HGN size & weight vs concealability. Reliability of the HGN w/good ammo (FBI & IWBA compliant), HGN "feel" in the hand and pointability (these are distinct qualities), and your accuracy with it under time pressure are just a few of the factors to take into account. Lack of a manual safety is a plus. When the SHTF, the fewer things that can go wrong, the better. The simpler the necessary actions & reactions, the better.

Revolvers are less likely to jam during H2H combat and, unlike a semi, will fire if the muzzle is pressed against the BG's body. Centennial & Bodyguard style revolvers can be carried and fired through a purse or coat's front pocket w/o jamming. After allowing for a break-in period (say, 200 rnds), your HGN should fire 500 rnds w/o any malfxns. It must be durable and reliable w/the ammo you plan on carrying.

6) Always have a roadside service card for travel by car.

7) Make sure your spouse and/or kids understand what can happen, how you'll react, and what they should do if things go south when walking together, riding in a car, at home, etc.

(add Heather MacDonald info)

8) Unless it is a documentary, the objective of most movies and TV shows is to give you "an emotionally satisfying movie-going experience," not to teach you the truth about guns, injuries, or the police.

9) Defend your Right to Keep & Bear Arms (RKBA) by being a member of the NRA, CRPA, and supporting CGN, CGF, SAF, the NRA-ILA, and/or the NRA-PVF. Defend your RKBA knives. Encourage others to join these organizations too.

(add: "Don't EVER get in the car!")

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10) (Add info re fallout of Zimmerman shooting) If you're ever involved in a self-defense shooting, know the 5 things to say after a shooting. You may want to attach this list with a Post-It to the back of your permit: (1) state and point out who attacked you, (2) say you will "sign the complaint," (3) point out the evidence (e.g., "He shot at me, look at those shell casings over by him"), (4) point out witnesses, (5) say you will give full cooperation in 24 hours after you talk with a lawyer. (Also: be able to re-holster 1 handed by feel so you can keep observing the scene and yet not have a gun in your hand when LE arrives; if you're the 1st party to the shooting to call it in, you become "the victim-complainant", not "the perpetrator.") After that, don't talk about it without your lawyer present!

11) If you want to prevent murders, support the death penalty. According to John Lott, PhD, "each execution saved the lives of roughly 15 to 18 potential murder victims" and "the states that reinstituted the death penalty after 1976 collectively saw a significantly bigger drop in murder rates (about 38 percent larger than in the 12 no-execution states) by 1998."

If we execute murderers and there is in fact no deterrent effect, we have killed a bunch of murderers. If we fail to execute murderers, and doing so would in fact have deterred other murders, we have allowed the killing of a bunch of innocent victims. I would much rather risk the former. This, to me, is not a tough call.
Prof. John McAdams, Marquette University, Department of Political Science

A message from a Prosecuting Attorney about the death penalty.

Organizations that support the death penalty include the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation and the forums Pro-death penalty.com and Pro Death Penalty Information.

(*** In Development *** For Christians):
- Proportionate justice ("the punishment must fit the crime"): the Lex Talonis -- "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" (Ex 21:21). Cf the revenge exacted after the rape of Dinah (Ge 34). Only the death of the murderer evenly balances the scales of justice for the crime of murder.
- The death penalty for murder applies to all people, and not just Old Testament Israel: God commanded the ancestors of all mankind, not just the Jews, to execute murderers. "Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood shall be shed. For in the image of God He made man" (Ge 9:6; see Lev 24:17). Legally, a murderer "forfeits" his right to life.
- No one has the right to extend mercy to a murderer by not executing them: "Moreover you shall take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of death, but he shall surely be put to death" (Nu 35:31).

Proportionate justice demands that murderers receive the death penalty to pay his debt to his victim (which is far greater than any presumed "debt to society"). No 3rd party -- no court (i.e., judge), governor, family member of the victim, or even president -- has the right to grant "mercy" to a criminal. Only the victim of the crime has that right. In the case of murder, the criminal has killed the only person who could choose to extend mercy to him. Thus, he has cut himself off from any human source of mercy and now must face justice unalloyed with mercy. Only the murderer's death will balance the scales of justice. To extend mercy where God says not to, to give a "second chance" to those God says to execute, is not compassion, but a grave injustice, sinful and evil. It does not matter whether they regret and have repented of their evil deed and express remorse -- all that is irrelevant to exacting justice on this side of the grave even if it is vital to their salvation on the other side. It does not matter whether the state believes they're no longer a threat to society, will not commit other crimes, or could even contribute greatly to society -- they must pay with their life for the life they took.
- Ro 13: the state is authorized, required, and accountable to God for the administration of justice, incl execution ("the sword", not leg irons or prison cells).

- Mt 5, Sermon on Mount dealing w/interpersonal relations and issues of the heart, not with the administration of criminal/civil justice by courts. It is dealing with personal insults (backhanded slap (with, presumably, R hand) against R cheek), not with physical harms (not if stabbed in one side of chest, offer other side; not if wife is raped, offer daughter too). This minimizes ill-will in society and allows the smoother functioning of society and leaves to the courts and their procedures the administration of God's justice. Too often, individuals' "justice" is based on partial-knowledge/bias and thus is really injustice. To decrease the amount of errors or injustice in the administration of justice (i.e., "miscarriages of justice"), courts are to administer it. But remember: God does not expect perfect justice from imperfect, limited, fallen creatures. Imperfections in the administration of justice do not justify disobeying God by abandoning the death penalty.
- The Fall affects all of humanity throughout all of time. There is no sanctuary from evil, and you are not to give sanctuary to evil (Ex 21:14; 1Ki 2:28-34). You never know when or where evil will strike, therefore always be armed w/at least something.

- Lk 22:35-38 Jesus says, when I was with you, I protected & provided for you. Soon I will be leaving you so each of you need to prepare to protect & provide for yourselves again.
- The wise man sees danger and takes cover, the fool goes on and suffers for it (Pr 22:3; 27:12).
- Ro 12:18 When a BG attacks you, the BG, not you, has chosen not to "live peaceably" with you. As long as you made a reasonable attempt to avoid a conflict without imperiling life or limb, you must defend your life. The BG has taken the non-violent options off of the table. Do what you have to in order to stop the evildoer.
- Jesus told the Centurion to be a good soldier, not to stop being a soldier (? ??:??).
- the Apostles had swords on them when Jesus was betrayed by Judas, and Jesus said not to "live by the sword." He did not say to get rid of all swords or not carry them
- Being Pro-Life means a lot more than just being anti-abortion

Unfortunately, since American courts are constantly committing injustice by extending "mercy" where they have no authority, individuals are tempted to exact their own justice (vigilantism, "taking the law into their own hands"), since justice is not being administered in our courts. (End of "In Development" section)

12) Motion detecting exterior lights, exterior video monitors/recorders, home (or apartment) alarms (set even when you're home), spouses (women often are light sleepers), and/or a dog (even some lapdogs alarm before a breach occurs), are good things.

13) NEVER open your door (i.e., breach your own home defenses) for unexpected strangers even if you have a chain on your door (vs unexpected friends or expected strangers (e.g., delivery man)). Someone else could be hiding outside your view of the entry and rush the door once you unlock it. Plus, while you are distracted w/the person at the front door, someone may be breaking into another area of your home. When you are talking to the person through the door, have both a HG and a cellphone w/you. If a stranger says they need to use a phone, get their name, the number to call, the name of the person to talk to, the message to convey, and say you'll make the call for them. If they say they need help, ask them what the problem is and then call 9-1-1 and convey the message along w/info about the person at your door. N.B. police may bang on your front door without identifying themselves as LE.

14) You can toughen your car's side windows by having "safety and security film" applied to the inside of them. 3M and Llumar offer this for your home too. Car dashboard cams, front and rear, are now affordable.

15) Beware of violent "flash mobs". If you notice that numbers of "urban youth" suddenly show up, immediately head for the nearest exit and get out of Dodge! Even if nothing bad ends up happening, why put your freedom (criminal trial for self-defense -- definition of "a jury of your peers": people too stupid to figure out how to get out of jury duty), wealth (civil lawsuit by the BG/s or their family, attorney fees), health (injuries from being attacked and/or defending yourself), or life at risk? This also ties in w/my previous suggestion that your spouse and kids know when you say something like, "Let's get out of here" or "We are leaving now", in a stern voice, they are to obey immediately and without question.

16) Ex-felons can't be in possession of weapons so they commonly stash improvised weapons nearby. They learn this trick in prison. Don't let down your guard just because someone is unarmed.

17) Unarmed students on college campuses are sitting ducks. Support Students for Concealed Carry on Campus.

18) People say that police won't know if the LTCer is a BG or a GG, and thus carrying a gun may be dangerous to you. Or they'll say one LTCer may shoot another thinking that he's the BG. This problem has an obvious answer: the BG is the person w/a gun shooting at unarmed people who are screaming, hiding, and/or running away. The GG is the person w/a gun who is shooting at a BG as just described. Unfortunately, LEOs have shot armed GGs who are just carrying, not even shooting, guns at crime scenes, so don't draw until you are about to shoot and reholster or drop the weapon as soon as possible.

19) (draft) Support the Federation of Americans for Immigration Reform (FAIR) and NumbersUSA (add stats re crime rates of illegal aliens)

20) As Clint Smith says, if you look like food you will be eaten.

To advance our cause:

(1) Register to vote (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_vr.htm), and vote in EVERY election.

(2) Join the NRA or upgrade your membership (http://membership.nrahq.org/).

(3) Take newbies shooting. Give them a gun safety lesson and teach them how to operate that gun before going to the range.

(4) Give NRA memberships and Junior memberships as Christmas/birthday/graduation/other gifts (http://membership.nrahq.org/) and mention the free subscription and benefits (http://www.nra.org/benefits.aspx and http://www.nra.org/affiliates.aspx).

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I would only add in regards to knives is that one should take some sort of edged weapon training. Even if you are armed with a knife if you don't know how to use it correctly you will end up hurting/cutting yourself. It is easy to just say carry a legal knife but a trained opponent can easily turn that knife on to you and you just end up cutting yourself.
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I would only add in regards to knives is that one should take some sort of edged weapon training. Even if you are armed with a knife if you don't know how to use it correctly you will end up hurting/cutting yourself. It is easy to just say carry a legal knife but a trained opponent can easily turn that knife on to you and you just end up cutting yourself.
Good point. I'll do that, but just not right now.

That reminds me of the saying, "The loser of a knife fight goes to the morgue. The winner goes to the hospital."
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I would only add in regards to knives is that one should take some sort of edged weapon training. Even if you are armed with a knife if you don't know how to use it correctly you will end up hurting/cutting yourself. It is easy to just say carry a legal knife but a trained opponent can easily turn that knife on to you and you just end up cutting yourself.
My guess is that about .000000001% of the US population are trained knife fighters.
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I would say your guess is wrong. There are several MA out there that are implementing knife defense.
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While this a great thread, you need to be slapped for your neccro post.
It's not like this thread is an old debate that is being reignited. It is a reference, a source of information, and I do give it minor updates/revisions/edits from time-to-time without bumping it. Plus, bumping it gives newbies a chance to see info they may have never heard about before (and share it w/their family, friends, etc.). All in all, this free info is "a good thing" for more law-abiding folks to know.

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