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Old 06-07-2012, 11:43 PM
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Mark, production "officially" ended in 1919. I don't know for sure, but my WAG is all those last rifles had to be a special order. The 1892 was a far superior design, and chambered in the same calibers, so you would have to really "want" a 1873 at that time.
The last 1873 was delivered to Abercrombie & Fitch in NY.
With the exception of the Madis reference, here's a pretty good summary of the 1873 production.
http://www.ogca.com/winchestermodel1873s.htm
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Trap I picked up another one for you to check when you get some time

1892 #706314

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1892 #706314

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Made early in 1913, with 53,082 made that year.
Search 1892 in this thread. I posted the contact info for a guy doing a survey on them like Bert did on the Model 1894's. Every rifle's info that is contributed, gives a broader database.
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Trap thanks again for all the info! I Grabbed my dads '94 while I was up there for fathers day and he asked if I could find out the date of mfg on it. So if you don't mind ,again, when you get a chance could you look it up? S/N 1593060.
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I got Bret's contact info and I'm going to try to get some pics of my '92 over to him this week.
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It's not Bert that's doing the 1892's, it's another guy, I'll try and find his info and post it here later.
S/N 1593060 was made in 1949, with 100,000 made that year.
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Thanks again Trap!
I found the links in post #175. His name is Michael, and his email is below for anyone else with a 92.

2bitrifles@gmail.com
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I found the links in post #175. His name is Michael, and his email is below for anyone else with a 92.

2bitrifles@gmail.com
That's the guy! Thanks for digging that up.
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That's the guy! Thanks for digging that up.

It was the least I could do after all the great info you gave me!
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Okay, I got another Winchester 24. Serial# 55976. Seller claimed made in 1947 but I was curious if you've got any more info.

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Okay, I got another Winchester 24. Serial# 55976. Seller claimed made in 1947 but I was curious if you've got any more info.

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Stephen, Made in 1947, but could have been made 1946.
The 24's were made from 1938 to 1957, only 5 were built in 1938, and the last one made in 1957 was 116,280.
Now, the reason I say "could have been 1946". Production records are incomplete during the war years.
In 1942 the last one made, was serial number 47,732 with, 3,215 made that year.
1943 and 44 had no production.
1945 only 230 were made with that last serial number of 47,962.
1946 had no records.
1947 shows 10,978 made, last serial number was 58,940.
Probably a safe bet that it was made in 1947.
I need to dig mine out and date it, I keep forgetting to check it!
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Very neat info Trap. Thanks for your work on all of this.
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Hi there Trap, I was given a model 94 Winchester nickel steel in 30 W.C.F. my father had 38 years ago and was hoping you might have the date of birth for my pride and joy. Serial number 827813. thanks so much. chris Oops, forgot it has an octagon barrel. Thanks again.

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How about a Winchester 1892 sn 609115 in 25-20 cal
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looking for a Gun smith that is in OC or LA that can take a look at my family heirloom. I have a Winchester model 1873 made in 1881. Been in my family for a long time and would like to give it a good one over my be a cleaning. The tag is the only info I have on it.

TRAP55 any more info that you may have would be grate.

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Im at a dead end with my Model '97 Trench gun #C 60522. I called Winchester they said it was manufactured in 1898 and couldnt tell me anymore. I beleive it has the original bayonet as well. Just trying to find out the history on it before I start to work on getting it fireable again. Any help would be awsomely appreciated! Thank You!
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Sorry for the late responses guys, I've been up in the Sawtooth Mountains of Idaho burning up pounds of milsurp ammo, and making some noise with Tannerite. Rough job, but someone had to do it.
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Hi there Trap, I was given a model 94 Winchester nickel steel in 30 W.C.F. my father had 38 years ago and was hoping you might have the date of birth for my pride and joy. Serial number 827813. thanks so much. chris Oops, forgot it has an octagon barrel. Thanks again.
Made Jan or Feb of 1916, with 15660 made that year.
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How about a Winchester 1892 sn 609115 in 25-20 cal
Made early 1911, with 64,308 made that year.
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Im at a dead end with my Model '97 Trench gun #C 60522. I called Winchester they said it was manufactured in 1898 and couldnt tell me anymore. I beleive it has the original bayonet as well. Just trying to find out the history on it before I start to work on getting it fireable again. Any help would be awsomely appreciated! Thank You!
Made 1898, with 17,677 made that year.
Contact Bert with Good clear pics of the markings, and overall gun. There wasn't much info on the trench guns, but he can tell at a glance if it's the real thing, or something someone stuck together.
marysdad, here on the forums, with pics of the bayo and markings.
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looking for a Gun smith that is in OC or LA that can take a look at my family heirloom. I have a Winchester model 1873 made in 1881. Been in my family for a long time and would like to give it a good one over my be a cleaning. The tag is the only info I have on it.

TRAP55 any more info that you may have would be grate.
It was made in 1881, with 16,547 made that year.
The rifle has been completely refinished and collector value destroyed. As a family heirloom, it's still priceless.
It would be a safe bet it's in shooting condition, judging by the effort somebody put into the refinish. The stock was originally an oil finish, side plates were blued, and the receiver was usually color case.
What caliber is it?
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Have a Model 1897, 283232, 12 ga pump, Actually there is a "D" above the serial number...looks pretty decent shape..another GB buy.
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Have a Model 1897, 283232, 12 ga pump, Actually there is a "D" above the serial number...looks pretty decent shape..another GB buy.
Will, your 1897 was made in 1905, with 40,296 made that year.
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Sweet , thanks! Now have to go dig out that 30-30...
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It was made in 1881, with 16,547 made that year.
The rifle has been completely refinished and collector value destroyed. As a family heirloom, it's still priceless.
It would be a safe bet it's in shooting condition, judging by the effort somebody put into the refinish. The stock was originally an oil finish, side plates were blued, and the receiver was usually color case.
What caliber is it?
Well I was never going to Sell it anyways. I can take some better photos if that helps out at all. It is worth more to me and my family to-stay as a family heirloom. I my wont to shoot it now that I Know what I have. The bore and rifling look good no real pitting or wearing. Caliber is is unknown I need to find that out. It is not marked anywhere I can see. Non of my family was ever allowed to shoot it. Also have two colt revolvers and some stage coach shot guns to get looked at and a WW-1 Luger from my grate-grate grandfather.

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I have a Model 1890 in .22 Long. Unfortunately it is mismatched serial numbers. The receiver has # 401902 and the stock group has #150843.
Somewhere I researched the dates of 1910 for the receiver and 1902 for the stock group.
I was wondering if your information agrees.

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I have a Model 1890 in .22 Long. Unfortunately it is mismatched serial numbers. The receiver has # 401902 and the stock group has #150843.
Somewhere I researched the dates of 1910 for the receiver and 1902 for the stock group.
I was wondering if your information agrees.

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Receiver dates very early 1909, and the stock group dates late 1902.
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Well I was never going to Sell it anyways. I can take some better photos if that helps out at all. It is worth more to me and my family to-stay as a family heirloom. I my wont to shoot it now that I Know what I have. The bore and rifling look good no real pitting or wearing. Caliber is is unknown I need to find that out. It is not marked anywhere I can see. Non of my family was ever allowed to shoot it. Also have two colt revolvers and some stage coach shot guns to get looked at and a WW-1 Luger from my grate-grate grandfather.
Glamis, they were only made in 4 calibers, .22RF, .32-20, .38-40, and .44-40. .32-20 bore will measure .312, .38-40 measures .401, and the .44-40 is about .429. Some of the brass lifter blocks were marked, most were not.
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Receiver dates very early 1909, and the stock group dates late 1902.
Thanks very much. Very nice of you to do this
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Glamis, they were only made in 4 calibers, .22RF, .32-20, .38-40, and .44-40. .32-20 bore will measure .312, .38-40 measures .401, and the .44-40 is about .429. Some of the brass lifter blocks were marked, most were not.

Ok thanks for all your help. It has relay put me on the right track... This lifter block is not. Ill get my micrometer out and see what happens.

Now just need to find a reliable gun smith in Orange county to take a look at it.
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hi TRAP55, could you look into this one, model 1895 30-40 krag with a serial of 152xx.
any help on this would be appreciated.
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hi TRAP55, could you look into this one, model 1895 30-40 krag with a serial of 152xx.
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Made in 1898, with 13,833 made that year.
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Could you look into these for me?

Model 62A #3788xx
M1917 #3206xx

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Model 62A #3788xx
M1917 #3206xx

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Model 62A #3788xx was made in 1956, with 11,535 made.
M1917 #3206xx was made in 1918.
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thank you TRAP55, have a great day.
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Sweet , thanks! Now have to go dig out that 30-30...
Are you still digging?
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I have one for you, Trapp. Model 94 30-30. S# 29089xx

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I have one for you, Trapp. Model 94 30-30. S# 29089xx

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Sorry DFF, I only have the pre 1964 data.
1963 ended at circa serial number 2,600,500, #3,000,000 was assembled in 1970. So just a guess, I would say about 1967 or 68?
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Trap, how about a model 1897 serial #191094 12 ga shotgun?
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Trap, how about a model 1897 serial #191094 12 ga shotgun?
Made late 1902, with 36,831 made that year.
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If you are still begin so generous (thanks for offering this lookup!!!), I have two for you:

1. Model 1894 (.30-30) S/N: 41,877
2. Model 1894 (.30-30) S/N: 1,542,024


Thanks again.

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