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Old 03-04-2012, 10:30 PM
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What a great thread, thanks for all your work!

I just picked up my grandfathers Win 1897 s/n 323825

Thanks!
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Win 1897 s/n 323825 was made in 1906, with 42,645 made that year.
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Win 1897 s/n 323825 was made in 1906, with 42,645 made that year.
Thanks TRAP55!

Can you recommend anyone in the bay area near the peninsula i could have take a look at my 1897? It's in need some some work... minor i think.
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Okay let me try you with my Model 03 s/n #52978 and Model 63 s/n 134557 ?

And as I'm sure from all of us....Thank you.
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Model 03 s/n #52978 was made about Jan 1909, with 7711 made that year.

Model 63 s/n 134557 was made in 1955, same year as me, with 11,000 made that year, and only one of me. My wife says "Thank God!"
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Too Kewl..again, thank you.
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Do you have info on my Model 94, .30-30 s/n 4644952? Thanks.
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Do you have info on my Model 94, .30-30 s/n 4644952? Thanks.
bigger hammer, My data on the 94's is only on pre 64's, with the last serial number of 2,600,500. My best WAG was late 70's, maybe '77?
Serial # 1,000,000 was engraved and presented to President Calvin Coolidge in 1927
1,500,000 was presented to President Harry S. Truman on May 8th, 1948
2,000,000 was presented to President Dwight Eisenhower in 1953
2,500,000 was assembled in 1961
3,000,000 was assembled in 1970

All told, by January of the year 1980, 5,200,000 Model 1894/94 Rifles, Carbines, and Commemoratives, had been manufactured at Winchesterís New Haven factory.
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Old 03-10-2012, 4:54 PM
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Thanks Trap. Your educated WAG is far better than my UNeducated one.
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Information on Model 1894 25-35. Carbine with set triggers. Serial 74333, Has nickle steel barrel, it was changed at factor 1920's according to old Cody Letter and it had other work done?
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Leo, Serial# 74333 was made mid 1899, with 26,207 made that year.
The first one chambered in 25-35 W.C.F. was serial# 5014, made 7-18-1895.
Leo, was the factory barrel replacement from 25-35, back to 25-35?
Single set, or Double set triggers? Was their any change with the sights?
If you can scan the Cody letter and post it, or email it to me, so I can post for you, it would be interesting to see, I'm sure the forum members would like to see what one looks like too!
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Excellent thread.

How about a Model 43 in .22 Hornet Serial# 42761A and a Model 24 in 12Gauge Serial# 4452.

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Model 43 in .22 Hornet Serial# 42761A made early in 1951, with 15,410 made that year.

Model 24 in 12Gauge Serial# 4452 was made early 1939, with 16,560 made that year. 1st year of 1938, only 5 were made.
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1892, 32wcf, special order carabine, round barrel, half mag,
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1892, 32wcf, special order carabine, round barrel, half mag,
s/n 584109.
Made early 1911, with 64,308 made that year.
There's a gentleman on the TFF forums, doing a 1892 survey like the one Bert has been doing on the 1894's. He would be very interested in yours, being a special order. I'll get his contact info for you, and edit it to this post.

d@rk51d3, twobit, aka Michael is doing the survey.

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/vi...survey#p343093

http://www.winchestercollector.org/f...pic.php?t=3460

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Thank you.
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Hi Trap55,

I'd like to know about my Model 100 in .308, serial number 1935. I know it's pre-'64 because it has the cut checkering (not pressed, like later years). I think it was made the first year they came out with this model, 1961?, but not sure.

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Hi Trap55,

I'd like to know about my Model 100 in .308, serial number 1935. I know it's pre-'64 because it has the cut checkering (not pressed, like later years). I think it was made the first year they came out with this model, 1961?, but not sure.

Thanks,
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Yep Mike, probably Jan of 1961, with 32,189 made that year.
Made 1961 to 1973, total of 262,838 made. Last serial number that is "pre 1964" was 78,863.
Mike, has yours had the firing pin recall done yet?
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If you will send them the old firing pin along with the s/n they will send a new pin and a gift card for $30.00 to cover installation.
Be sure the pin has not been changed to the new style before tearing into the action. The old style pin can be rotated in the bolt while the new style has a milled flat that prevents rotation. The back of the pin can be examined through the magazine well without dis-assembly.
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Thanks! Very nice of you to do this, Trap.

Yes, I had the firing pin replaced by a local 'smith a couple years after inheriting it, right around 2000 or so (after reading about the firing pin recall online). My 'smith sent the stock pin to Winchester, they sent him the new one, and he installed it. So I'm good there.

Jan. '61 means this rifle is just over a year older than I am.
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Jan. '61 means this rifle is just over a year older than I am.
Well, that makes me, you, and the rifle C&R's.
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How about:
Model 1886, 40-65 WCF, Octagon barrel
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Another.....

Winchester Winder .22 short #128763 US Ord marked.

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How about a Model 94 S/N 1017771 ?
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Made in 1888, with 16,112 made that year.
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Winchester Winder .22 short #128763 US Ord marked.

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Made in late 1918, with 9400 made that year.
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How about a Model 94 S/N 1017771 ?
Made in Jan of 1928, with 25912 made that year.
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Made in late 1918, with 9400 made that year.
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You're welcome Chad.
An 1885 Winder has always been on my wish list. Run across several good deals back when they were cheap, that I passed on hoping to find something better...dumb mistake. With the prices now, I could have sold a couple of those, and bought a museum grade Winder.
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This one hurt quite a bit, but I'm glad I did it.
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They ain't getting any cheaper, give it a few years, and it won't hurt at all!
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LOL....true. Another plus is that she is very accurate, stable and fun to shoot! .22 short is fun!
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Made in Jan of 1928, with 25912 made that year.
I was close, I had it at 1927... Thanks.
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How about a Model 97 Take down C 52638 ?
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Made 1898, with 17,677 made that year.
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Is there a place to go to buy a Winchester specifically? Gun stores may have a couple on the shelf but I want a really nice old shooter, maybe online? I don't know what to look for so I need to trust a shop.
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Is there a place to go to buy a Winchester specifically? Gun stores may have a couple on the shelf but I want a really nice old shooter, maybe online? I don't know what to look for so I need to trust a shop.
The Big Reno Show, specifically the Spring (this weekend), and the Fall show. Winchester collectors from all over make this show their meeting place for the western US. I've never been, but I hear the only two rivals are the Tulsa, OK show, and the Cody, WY show.
Make the Reno Show, and I'll hook you up with Bert Hartman. He's already been there before the show starts, and knows where every Winchester in the building is. All you have to do is tell him what you are looking for, and what you have to spend,....then cut him loose. Let him do the haggling on price, and you'll be done within an hour.
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THIS weekend? Oh geeze no can do, drat! When is the fall show, are the dates set yet? I'll for sure make it if the Army hasn't sent me to some fun place then.

But the flip side.... I trust CalGuns folks to the point, Trap55, that I feel I can say "Let me Paypal you $3,000 and get me something to be proud of." I'd do just that but I'm going to go broke at a gun store tomorrow for ordered items.

Then again I have no idea HOW MUCH I would need to get something nice. Is there a place I should start reading?
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Following up to see if you found out anything further.
Sears/JC Higgins used their own serial numbers on Winchester made guns, and no records were kept as to DOM.
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How about a Winchester Model 1894 S/N: 96852x

Thank You Sir!
Made early 1924, with only 9,412 made that year.
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Hey Trap, I just picked up another Old Winchester 1894 Rifle...Serial Number is: 786356.
Curious of the date of manufacture...Somewhere along the line, someone had the receiver, top of barrel, Lever engraved, and Silver Inletted Scene with Deer.., Checkered and carved the stock, and refinished rifle....No Doubht it's not Original, but, still a Really Cool Model 1894.

Thanks again, Terry
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