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Old 03-02-2013, 1:19 PM
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Model 12 996082
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Made in 1942, with a record production of 105,207 made that year.
Might mention here, that Model 12's made during the war may have been used by the USAAF to teach bomber gunners on the trap range, how to lead their targets. Good idea to take a good close look for the flaming bomb proof.
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Wow using some link I found online put it as a 1946..

It has WP proofs on the top of barrel and receiver. No flaming bomb or US that I have seen unless it was severely buffed off.

Pretty sure it was commercial as it is marked FULL and probably had a 30 inch barrel, which someone cut to 26 and choked. The stock end is flush, no curve and the hole patterns do not line up to any buttplate I have found. It seems that it might be the size of a small Winchester red pad. It has a white line Pachmayr branded for a store in Tulsa, OK if I remember correct. I am guessing either the store had them ordered that way or the store later replaced a Winchester "Red" pad.

All that together and I think it was a commercial shotgun.

I need to rewrite that page in my bound book because of another small mistake I wrote. So should I write it as 1942 now given your info?

I know its a sin to chop more but the choke threading and chop isn't holding up very well. The barrel is very thin and I can see and feel the threading pushing out on the outside of the barrel. Also on one side the end of the barrel is so thin theres a sliver that flaked away. I'm going to have it professionally chopped to 20 or 18.5. I know 20 or 20 5/8th is more proper because the trench guns where that length.

But I am really leaning towards 18.5. What do you think?

*Flame suit on!* hah

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So should I write it as 1942 now given your info?
Absolutely!
Chaos, With some of these Winchesters being so far off from the Madis data, (4yrs on yours) I kinda wish I had kept track of it when I started this thread. Bert has done a comparison on the 1894's between what Madis "had", and the polishing room records "are". Some really big differences there! I'll try to get a copy and add it to the the original post.
Your barrel, if it was mine, being any collector value is gone, and everybody has a sawed off Model 12 , I would send it to Jess Briley and see how much of the barrel they can salvage by installing their thin wall choke tubes.
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Inherited 1894 chambered for 30/30 in nickel steel
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Inherited 1894 chambered for 30/30 in nickel steel
# 920671
Thnx OP
Made mid to late 1920, with 31,486 made that year.
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Earlier research put the date in 1926. Family story is this
Weapon used on fishing boat off ca coast..used to sho ot
Sharks chasing bait..hence the need for nickel steel..worked too
No pitting, and has nice finish of a 93 yo gun..
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You're welcome. Probably more seals than sharks. Amazing it's not a rust bucket after being in the salt air.
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OK, here are a few:

Winchester 1895 Serial Number 3043
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Winchester Model 1912 SN 75692
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OK, here are a few:

Winchester 1895 Serial Number 3043

Winchester Model 1912 SN 75692
1895 was made early 1897, with 2,951 made that year. It had a Lyman 21 sight on it, a factory option, to bad it's gone.

Model 12 was made 1914, with 61,026 made that year.
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1892 sn 348096. Thanks in advance.
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Made in 1908, with 57,947 made that year.
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Default Winchester dates of manufacture

I have 5 Winchesters that I would like to gather some info on if it is not too much trouble.

1885 hi-wall, thick sided, 1/3 octagonal barrel about 34 inches long in .45-70, s/n 67718
1905 in .35WSL s/n 780
1905 in .32WSL s/n 4114
1907 in .351WSL s/n 13777

the last one is a mixmaster, the upper and lower receiver is a 1905 s/n 333. The barrel, hand guard and breechblock assy are from a 1907 and is in .351WSL. The magazine does not sit flush with the lower part of the trigger guard and it is marked as ".351WSL.

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I have 5 Winchesters that I would like to gather some info on if it is not too much trouble.

1885 hi-wall, thick sided, 1/3 octagonal barrel about 34 inches long in .45-70, s/n 67718
1905 in .35WSL s/n 780
1905 in .32WSL s/n 4114
1907 in .351WSL s/n 13777

the last one is a mixmaster, the upper and lower receiver is a 1905 s/n 333. The barrel, hand guard and breechblock assy are from a 1907 and is in .351WSL. The magazine does not sit flush with the lower part of the trigger guard and it is marked as ".351WSL.

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1885 hi-wall s/n 67718 was made in 1894, with 4,857 made that year.
1905 s/n 780 was made in 1905, with 9,176 made that year.
1905 s/n 4114 was made in 1905 also.
1907 s/n 13777 was made in 1908, with 8,721 made that year.
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Default Winchester (1897) M97 Trench Gun

Thanks for offering to verify date of manufacture!!!

My Winchester (1897) M97 Trench Gun has an E above the serial number which is 6893XX.

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Winchester (1897) M97 Trench Gun has an E above the serial number which is 6893XX
Your 1897 was made in 1918, with 32,350 made that year.
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Hi TRAP55,

My dad just showed me a Winchester model 1894, .30-30, with s/n 851374.

Thanks for helping all of us out!


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Hi TRAP55,

My dad just showed me a Winchester model 1894, .30-30, with s/n 851374.

Thanks for helping all of us out!


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Made early to mid 1917, with 32,57 made that year.
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Made early to mid 1917, with 32,57 made that year.

Thank you!! My dad thought it was appx. 1912, so he was in the right neighborhood.

Is that production number 32,57X? It doesn't seem like it would be 3,257.


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1897 SN-342xx
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Made in 1897, with 13,382 made that year. The Model 1897 serial numbers were a continuation of the Model 1893 serial numbers.
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I got a Winchester 1894 at a local gunshop. 30 WCF

Serial# 905405

What can you tell me about her?
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Serial# 905405

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Made in 1920, with 31,486 made that year.
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How about a Model 1907 sn. 2352.
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Made in 1907, with 9,534 made that year. Made from 1906 to 1957, with a total of 58,733 produced.
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Wow--first year! Excellent--thanks for the help. Other than the Cody Museum, are there any other sources for information; specifically where it might have been shipped to or ordered by?

thanks again,
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Howdy Trapp! Hope you are doing well. I've been just trolling lately. Anyways look at this little gem I picked up. 76 SRC that letters with a set trigger!
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Wow--first year! Excellent--thanks for the help. Other than the Cody Museum, are there any other sources for information; specifically where it might have been shipped to or ordered by?

thanks again,
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John, second year, 1906 was the first year, only 1,096 were made in 1906. A Cody letter (if one exists for your rifle) usually just gives the day, month, and year it was serial numbered in the polishing room, received in the warehouse, and any special features. If it was returned to Winchester for repairs, that most often is noted too.
"Sometimes" it will list a shipment lot, like 100 rifles sold to a prison or police dept. Rarely it will show it being shipped to a retailer like a hardware store. Even more rare to see, some high dollar custom special ordered rifles, will letter with details of who it was shipped to.
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Howdy Trapp! Hope you are doing well. I've been just trolling lately. Anyways look at this little gem I picked up. 76 SRC that letters with a set trigger!
Manny, you can leave that one to me in your will too! Very nice score, what caliber?
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Haha! Its in the mighty 45-75!!!
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Sweet, I gotta box of ammo, and no gun that shoots it, and you know you want it.
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How dare you tease me like that....... lol!
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I just got a model 1897 sn-C675xx. Thank you
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Made in 1899, with 26,232 made that year.
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I have two that were purchased new by my great grandfather.

#1 Winchester Model 1894 chambered in 30WCF SN#542943
#2 Winchester Model 1890 chambered in 22 Short SN#470124
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Model 1894 SN#542943 was made in early 1912, with 56,852 made that year.

Model 1890 SN#470124 was made in late 1911, with 33,100 made that year.
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GI, the last Winchester model 1894 made in 1963 was serial number 2,600,500. The data I have is for pre 1964 Winchesters.
1,000,000 was engraved and presented to President Calvin Coolidge in 1927
1,500,000 was presented to President Harry S. Truman on May 8th, 1948
2,000,000 was presented to President Dwight Eisenhower in 1953
2,500,000 was assembled in 1961
3,000,000 was assembled in 1970
All told, by January of the year 1980, 5,200,000 Model 1894/94 Rifles, Carbines, and Commemoratives had been manufactured at Winchesterís New Haven factory.
I would take a wag that yours was made in 1978.
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