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Old 05-26-2016, 9:45 PM
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I bought this rifle sight unseen for $100. I was told that it was damaged .
I almost cried when I opened the box.





Six US Property stamps on the barrel shank.






The sights still have the original paint in the numbers and there is still cosmoline on the rifle.
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And here is the English contract stamp.


This is the only damage to the stock.


And here is where the tears start. The rifle was demilled at one time and someone tried to fix it and screwed up the chamber. The bore is like new.
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Nice collector piece.
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Oh man... did they just try to drill it out with a Dewalt? I wonder if it's in any way salvageable, that's waaaaaay above my pay grade to the answer. Pretty mantel piece anyways!
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Great looking rifle...until you showed the chamber.



Can it be fixed? I hope so.

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Wow !!! Until the chamber. It is Beautiful though !
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Tears and wails!
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Yeah, I'm man enough to admit it. I'm crying just a little tiny bit right now.

Gunny, please keep us informed on if/when/how you manage to bring this poor little lamb back to the herd and if she ends up just gracing your mantelpiece, at least share a picture of her.

Either way, it's what my father would call "a good get".
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Well Gunny, we've seen you save some bent barrel stuff headed to the trash,

what your plans to save this one or is it going to be a wall hanger ?
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I vote you take it to Randall and tell him "I hear you enjoy challenges"


That would be a great wall-hanger though - and unlike most firearms, you don't really have to worry about it being out on display unlocked (and subsequently stolen), since it only cost $100 and doesn't work.
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Does the bolt close completely?
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The rifle fuctions fine but is not safe to shoot. I think the stock was damaged when someone tried to shoot it.
The repair to the stock would not be hard and would show very little. I have a friend that could sleave the chamber to put it back into firing condition, but I have something like ten other M91s that I can shoot.
I think I will just leave this one as is for now.
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Maybe the CMP has record of it as a DCM sale?
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I vote you take it to Randall and tell him "I hear you enjoy challenges"


That would be a great wall-hanger though - and unlike most firearms, you don't really have to worry about it being out on display unlocked (and subsequently stolen), since it only cost $100 and doesn't work.



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I was all excited about such a cool rifle until I saw the picture of the chamber. What a shame that it was ever demilled.
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I refer all M91 work to KCstott.
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You could graft a new barrel to your existing Westinghouse barrel stub. Might even be able to hide the graft line under the rear sight. Like some used to graft 2 groove 1903-A3 barrels to M1 Garand stubs.
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To some the rifle is worth more as is.
As is, it still has some collectors value.
But if repaired it would be just another shooter.
I have three other NEWs in my collection.
I was offered $400 for it a few years ago.
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Maybe to today's "collector". In reality it is already half lamp or barstool, and making a shooter out of it would be a good thing. The down side is the fix I am suggesting would be expensive for the gun in question.
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I had the same exact thing happen to me but with a Remington.. All numbers matching too. Was sold as working but when i went to fire it today, all hell broke loose. Stock split exactly like the OP's stock, and the case ruptured, and i got some minor powder burns to my cheek and arm. (was wearing eye protection and hearing protection) I'm ok, little singed, but i'll be fine. someone was definitely looking out for me today. Original stock had a split exactly like the OP's stock. I bought a shooter stock so that i wouldnt damage the original.
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Glad to hear that you are ok.
If you need advise on repairing the stock let me know.
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If you need advise on repairing the stock let me know.
Stock im not gonna worry about. It was a cheap throw around M91 stock i bought. I wish i would have known it was a de-milled rifle before i fired it. I think they did the de-mill so dang stupidly. IMO it should have been marked (like the DP Enfield rifles) or at least made so that it wont chamber or fire. mine just had a clipped extractor
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I had the same exact thing happen to me but with a Remington.. All numbers matching too. Was sold as working but when i went to fire it today, all hell broke loose. Stock split exactly like the OP's stock, and the case ruptured, and i got some minor powder burns to my cheek and arm. (was wearing eye protection and hearing protection) I'm ok, little singed, but i'll be fine. someone was definitely looking out for me today. Original stock had a split exactly like the OP's stock. I bought a shooter stock so that i wouldnt damage the original.
Glad to weren't seriously injured!
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Gunny...keep it as is. The story is pretty good. Just hang on to it.

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Stock im not gonna worry about. It was a cheap throw around M91 stock i bought. I wish i would have known it was a de-milled rifle before i fired it. I think they did the de-mill so dang stupidly. IMO it should have been marked (like the DP Enfield rifles) or at least made so that it wont chamber or fire. mine just had a clipped extractor
Your rifle is only the second rifle I have ever seen like this, mine being the first.
M91 stocks are getting hard to come by these days. What are you going to do with the stock?
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Glad to weren't seriously injured!
Could have definitely gone worse. I heard a similar story from a military contractor that said one of his Iraqi soldiers he worked with had the same thing happen on an SVD, and lost one of his fingers.
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Gunny...keep it as is. The story is pretty good. Just hang on to it.

Glad you're ok 987.
Thanks Barrett. I'm glad it wasnt worse off than it was.
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Your rifle is only the second rifle I have ever seen like this, mine being the first.
M91 stocks are getting hard to come by these days. What are you going to do with the stock?
No idea gunny. its a bit worse for wear, had a small chunk fly off, and the outside cracked fairly bad.
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No idea gunny. its a bit worse for wear, had a small chunk fly off, and the outside cracked fairly bad.
Have you see some of the stocks I have repaired over the years?
Here are two that I posted at Calguns.
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Have you see some of the stocks I have repaired over the years?
Here are two that I posted at Calguns.
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Nice work! I don't have any use for the stock, if you might have one.
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Nice work! I don't have any use for the stock, if you might have one.
What do you want for the stock?
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Send me a PM and we can work something out
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