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Old 11-30-2015, 11:38 AM
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Default HMG Reproduction STG-44 Pricing Announced!



$1,799 MSRP.

https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr/

I for one am interested in a 7.62x39 model. Would be interesting finding a way to get a bullet button attached to these somehow, most likely will have to be grip wrapped out of state and the mags blocked to 10 rounds by a middleman FFL before importing into California.
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Wow! Always wanted one, but a lot of $ !
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Wow awesome . The Money is not too bad either.
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I'd have to see real pics before getting excited, could be good, could be a turd?

Edit* watched the video and it does indeed look promising!! Again would need to hear back from
some actual use. I do like the STANAG magwell idea, and understand the HK internals better.
STG's are very badass. Would get a tradiational wood stocked model in 223 if I had a choice.
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$1,799 MSRP.

https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr/

I for one am interested in a 7.62x39 model. Would be interesting finding a way to get a bullet button attached to these somehow, most likely will have to be grip wrapped out of state and the mags blocked to 10 rounds by a middleman FFL before importing into California.
Sweet!

And since they use STANAG-compatible magazines, getting 10 rounders isn't going to be a problem.

Can't wait until Atlantic starts offering CA-legal kydexed or BB'd versions These look super fun, I've been wanting one of these repro's ever since I heard about them on Forgotten Weapons.

I agree the 7,62x39mm model seems the best of the lot.
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!No Kydex! If the repros resemble the real deal close enough, a bullet button conversion is no problem. It can be done and has been done.

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Now, do they still make the original ammo for it?
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Now, do they still make the original ammo for it?
Yes. FNM (Prvi Partizan) makes ammo and bullets.
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GunKraut, did you make those bullet buttons yourself? I would be interested in a set for one of these assuming it is the same size as an original.
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Yes, I developed this one myself long time ago on a rainy weekend but it's a one-off. I have hand sketches with dimensions if anybody wants to fabricate this "bullet" button. The button can be rotated such that you can't pop out the mag no matter what, not even with the tool.
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Well I placed my order. Got one in 8mm Kurtz.
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Well I placed my order. Got one in 8mm Kurtz.
That's cool,I'd like to get one,also but probably go 223. Pete
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That's cool,I'd like to get one,also but probably go 223. Pete
Don't think they will allow you to order from them directly:

"HMG will NOT ship any firearms to the following areas:

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That's a pretty cool reproduction. I'd probably get one in 7.62x39 since ammo is plentiful.
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Don't think they will allow you to order from them directly:

"HMG will NOT ship any firearms to the following areas:

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The incredible revelation (historically speaking) of the MP44, was not really the rifle itself, (a stamped steel, rather crude affair copied from the Russian Simonov) but the genius behind the introduction of a truly practical intermediate round, for a firearm designed to take the place of both SMG and rifle - in essence the cool factor is the "Polte" Factory 8mm Kurz cartridge, but that is just my opinion.
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The MP44 by design has an inherent weakness originating from the bolt closing mechanism. Trunnion and receiver wear are the results of this weakness. It takes very little to significantly improve the mechanism. I wish HMG would have focused on that and left the rest untouched.

Pit, I bet you like the non-lacquered round?
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I asked on Full30, and Ian replied saying HMG is planning a CA legal version.

This seems like a fun rifle in 300 blackout. I'll be curious to see if these are sold locally at a street price, or if they'll only be purchased direct. I'm guessing direct-only at first
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"Kurz" (Short) - Kurtz was a character in "Apocalypse now."

Looking forward to seeing if this company can get it together.

On the replicas, the curve of a 7.62x39mm mag or a 5.56mm mag is going to be different to a 8x33mm mag.

I don't know, maybe I'm too much of a purist but if the sillouette and caliber are wrong why bother? If you want a modern rifle caliber, why not buy an AR platform, is a MUCH better design, less iconic, but far more practical - this comes from someone who has owned quite a few MP44's.

Beyond their very cool image factor - MP44's are heavy, the foregrip heats up when shooting, almost impossible to shoot prone because of the long mag, not terribly accurate, have incessant trunnion and receiver wear issues when shot heavily, a problem even with the originals, and have an exceptionally crude barrel replacement system


The incredible revelation (historically speaking) of the MP44, was not really the rifle itself, (a stamped steel, rather crude affair copied from the Russian Simonov) but the genius behind the introduction of a truly practical intermediate round, for a firearm designed to take the place of both SMG and rifle - in essence the cool factor is the "Polte" Factory 8mm Kurz cartridge, but that is just my opinion.
I've always been more interested in the Kurz from a production standpoint. It was a clever way to introduce a new caliber (and a whole new concept to the German military) while maintaining as much of the logistics infrastructure as possible. Less new tooling needed in the factories, et cetera.

The main reason why I'd switch out to the 7,62x39mm is just availability and economy, though. As you mentioned these aren't the best rifles. For what they were and when they were, important and interesting and definitely a story worth telling, but they don't stand up to their modern counterparts. And these aren't even made to the original standards, they've been changed around.

As such these are 100% "fun guns" toys you take out because you want to dick around with something cool. And they are nice if you're a bit of a storyteller like myself, they give you a way to start up the conversation But for something like that, I want to be able to go out to the desert and spend all day shooting things, and I want to do that as cheaply as possible.

Furthermore, if someone just asks if I want to go out shooting, having ammo I have to handload or order online means I can't really just pick up a few boxes of ammo and run with it. Which robs it of some of its fun-ness, if you will.



As such I'd only want one of the HMG repro's in 7,62x39mm, really. Maybe in 5.56x45, but I prefer x39. If it were trying to be an original Kurz is the way, but it isn't so it's not.
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Pit, I bet you like the non-lacquered round?
That's one from the last made of the 12 batches of OXO manufactured Ammo, it is quite a rare one. (1-9 in 1944 and 1-3 in 1945) Batch number 3 1945 - things were really falling apart for them when that rolled out of the factory! (if it even made it out of the factory.)

I've managed to track down quite a few OXO factory output, the one that is still eluding me, and has me acting like a nerdish-stamp-collector is the Polish factory-codenamed KAM (batches 1-5 1944 only)

Have a $100 "per Kurz round" bounty on: KAM factory rounds, Sintered Iron projectiles, Wooden headed blanks, or full length wartime plastic drill rounds.

Ref. the Tacticool MP44 - for me, it's the firearm-equivalent of a fiber-glass reproduction of a Ferrari with a Pontiac Fiero engine and furry dice in the windshield. Edit: But some people love those - so, all is good!
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Whoa, I didn't even notice the pistol version.


God, that'd be a weird toy.
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Compared to what the FG42's sell for and the potential new STG 44's from Deutschland, under 2K looks pretty good to me... Seeing the final product the determining factor. I'd go Kurz and 7.62x39...Thanks for posting Syntax and excellent comments Pit!
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I'm thinking Group Buy; but like a REAL one, list up front, pay when ready to ship, through an intermediary FFL with firm presence and clout to do it more expert than "expertish."

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How about we wait until they have more to show for than just a stereolith receiver and a bunch of metal parts that yet have to prove they will work in unison and withstand the rigors of live fire? Then we wait for the endurance tests, for ATF inspection and approval and if by then they still have money left ("pay when ready to ship" will not work as I don't expect them to have a large financial cushion) to go into large scale production, let's see how flawlessly an assembly of mass produced parts works vs. a hand fitted one-off test rifle.

We followed this entire cradle to grave process with SMG's FG42 and it wasn't a slam dunk. There were a lot of setbacks and Rick of SMG shared success/failure reports on his web site and YouTube. Contrary to HMG, SMG have been in the gun and gun parts manufacturing business for years and knew problems beforehand, making it easier for them to come up with a realistic price by factoring in lessons learned, cost of warranty and -of course- a healthy profit.

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So it isn't just me wondering why they didn't show a actual rifle, let alone an actual rifle firing.
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I really really want one*

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"Kurz" (Short) - Kurtz was a character in "Apocalypse now."

Looking forward to seeing if this company can get it together.

On the replicas, the curve of a 7.62x39mm mag or a 5.56mm mag is going to be different to a 8x33mm mag.

I don't know, maybe I'm too much of a purist but if the sillouette and caliber are wrong why bother? If you want a modern rifle caliber, why not buy an AR platform, is a MUCH better design, less iconic, but far more practical - this comes from someone who has owned quite a few MP44's.

Beyond their very cool image factor - MP44's are heavy, the foregrip heats up when shooting, almost impossible to shoot prone because of the long mag, not terribly accurate, have incessant trunnion and receiver wear issues when shot heavily, a problem even with the originals, and have an exceptionally crude barrel replacement system


The incredible revelation (historically speaking) of the MP44, was not really the rifle itself, (a stamped steel, rather crude affair copied from the Russian Simonov) but the genius behind the introduction of a truly practical intermediate round, for a firearm designed to take the place of both SMG and rifle - in essence the cool factor is the "Polte" Factory 8mm Kurz cartridge, but that is just my opinion.
When the MP44s were made the expectation for survival of the arm was probably estimated in months and not years. Wear and rebuilding was the least of their concerns. Its probably a miracle that as many exist today in the wild as there are.
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Sweet!

And since they use STANAG-compatible magazines, getting 10 rounders isn't going to be a problem.

Can't wait until Atlantic starts offering CA-legal kydexed or BB'd versions These look super fun, I've been wanting one of these repro's ever since I heard about them on Forgotten Weapons.

I agree the 7,62x39mm model seems the best of the lot.
I just talked with them, and they WILL be making a CA compliant version (w/ bb I assume) No need to go through Atlantic!

They are doing pre-sale orders, but they are charging your card immediately. I LOVE the gun and WILL get one (assuming they work) but, for the extra mag they are offering on the pre-order, I'd not willing to finance the project for them.
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It's a nice idea and a decent price but echoing other concerns, does it exist? All these caliber choices seem very ambitious and optimistic to get something to work out of the gate.

I have no problems with "working" with a repro to get it to shoot, no expectation this is some kind of 100% modern perfect reliable war weapon. But even getting to the point where you can fire 5 shots in a row without a malfunction is a huge time&effort.

I've built a few FAL's that share the tilting breech block, they can be very unforgiving in terms of machining tolerances. Plenty of awful FAL's out there that basically do not work.
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Looks like Ian got his hands on a prototype model in SHOT show, so at least in that regard it looks like it might not be vaporware. I'm not sure about the finish, it looks like a very dark black parkerized finish. Is that correct for original STG-44s?
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Now - can they actually get it to market BEFORE AB1663 shuts us down for good?
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Looks nice and if money were no object...

But I'm still saving for a garand or two.

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That's wicked cool but out of my price range
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.300 BLK!! i rather have the original. 7.92 x 33
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They are going to make the STG-44 repro in multiple calibers: 7.62x39, 5.56x45, .300 BLCK, and the original 8mm Kurz.
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Some more info about the repros from TFB: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...ewehr-arrived/


Looks like a rough weld, but if it's just for a prototype I can forgive that. If that's what's to be expected for a production model, however...
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