Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > FIREARMS DISCUSSIONS > Curio & Relic/Black Powder
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Curio & Relic/Black Powder Curio & Relics and Black Powder Firearms, Old School shooting fun!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-12-2016, 12:24 PM
smle-man's Avatar
smle-man smle-man is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Right here
Posts: 7,223
iTrader: 109 / 100%
Default How I spent my Veteran's day

I spent some time yesterday loading up 577/.450 Martini Henry rounds. The process is somewhat labor intensive so I spent several hours total working on doing 70 rounds. I found my attention wandering during the process so I took some breaks in order to stay focused.

The process:

1. deprime and neck size the cases
3. flare the case mouth
4. prime the cases
2. load Pyrodex RS by volume equivalent to 80 gr of FFg black powder
3. put a pinch of carded wool in the case as an air space filler
4. press into the case mouth a disk punched from a milk carton with a grease cookie of beeswax and olive oil
5. press another disk on top of the grease cookie
6. press the bullet home



I shoot this MH once or twice a year so this is probably a three year supply of ammunition for me! This is a fun rifle to shoot so the reloading process is worth the fuss. That plastic tub is heavy with 70 rounds!
__________________


"Everybody dies.. the thing is, to die well' Jack Harper

I'm a seven percenter
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-12-2016, 12:31 PM
Citadelgrad87's Avatar
Citadelgrad87 Citadelgrad87 is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,331
iTrader: 20 / 100%
Default

Did you cast the projectiles?

Is brass available?

Thanks for sharing.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjsig View Post
You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Excelsior View Post
Please stop judging me. Your ad hominem attack does nothing more than show you don't pack the gear for this debate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-Hero View Post
I love this thread. One person standing alone masturbating furiously, while everyone else is pointing and laughing at his small weenie.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lear60man View Post
My transvestite analogy stands.
XXXXXXX
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-12-2016, 12:52 PM
smle-man's Avatar
smle-man smle-man is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Right here
Posts: 7,223
iTrader: 109 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Citadelgrad87 View Post
Did you cast the projectiles?

Is brass available?

Thanks for sharing.
The bullets are from Western bullet company. Drawn cases are about $5 each. converted CBC 24 ga cases as done by X Ring Services are around $50 for 25. I have 49 CBC cases ( I gave one to a friend for his collection) and 40 drawn cases specifically made as 577/450. I got the 40 from Midway a couple years ago when they were 'on sale' at $75 per 20 - ouch!
__________________


"Everybody dies.. the thing is, to die well' Jack Harper

I'm a seven percenter
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-12-2016, 1:20 PM
Citadelgrad87's Avatar
Citadelgrad87 Citadelgrad87 is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,331
iTrader: 20 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smle-man View Post
The bullets are from Western bullet company. Drawn cases are about $5 each. converted CBC 24 ga cases as done by X Ring Services are around $50 for 25. I have 49 CBC cases ( I gave one to a friend for his collection) and 40 drawn cases specifically made as 577/450. I got the 40 from Midway a couple years ago when they were 'on sale' at $75 per 20 - ouch!
Thats what i was thinking. Very very cool, thanks for sharing. I have a bp cannon, just a little .50 that i built a generic oak carriage for, love me some bp smoke rings.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjsig View Post
You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Excelsior View Post
Please stop judging me. Your ad hominem attack does nothing more than show you don't pack the gear for this debate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-Hero View Post
I love this thread. One person standing alone masturbating furiously, while everyone else is pointing and laughing at his small weenie.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lear60man View Post
My transvestite analogy stands.
XXXXXXX
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-12-2016, 1:23 PM
Bainter1212's Avatar
Bainter1212 Bainter1212 is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,844
iTrader: 52 / 100%
Default

I have everything I need to roll my own for my MH rifles......except for the time haha.
Martyn at X-Ring Services has a proprietary bullet mold for a paper patched bullet that is supposedly superior to anything else out there so I went ahead and bought one.
I also went ahead and bought some Goex FFg to get that big smoke cloud every time.
Haven't fired up the lead pot yet though......I am a little jealous.

Enjoy!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-12-2016, 1:25 PM
TRICKSTER's Avatar
TRICKSTER TRICKSTER is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Contra Costa County
Posts: 11,341
iTrader: 15 / 100%
Default

I visited my dad at the Sacramento Valley National Cemetery.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by waterfern View Post
Watch come Wednesday. It's going to be a landslide. Forget the polls, look at the census data, trump screwed up. Tell you what though if trump had made peace with woman and hispancis he could have pulled this off. But he kept at em. Just couldn't shut up.
NRA Benefactor Member
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-12-2016, 2:34 PM
Citadelgrad87's Avatar
Citadelgrad87 Citadelgrad87 is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,331
iTrader: 20 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TRICKSTER View Post
I visited my dad at the Sacramento Valley National Cemetery.
I watched my dad give a veterans day speech to his granddaughters high school history class, about his cousin being returned to a heros burial at Arlington. MIA since 1943, identified and recovered in 2014.

I salute the men and women of JPAC, an organization i had never heard of until they comtafted my dad for a DNA sample as the last surviving relative of his cousin Chuck.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Join...unting_Command

I also salute your father, my dads cousin, Technical Sergeant Charles Johnson, my dad, and all veterans.

Despite the idiots in the news, this nation is eternally grateful.

RIP.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjsig View Post
You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Excelsior View Post
Please stop judging me. Your ad hominem attack does nothing more than show you don't pack the gear for this debate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-Hero View Post
I love this thread. One person standing alone masturbating furiously, while everyone else is pointing and laughing at his small weenie.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lear60man View Post
My transvestite analogy stands.
XXXXXXX
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-12-2016, 3:02 PM
smle-man's Avatar
smle-man smle-man is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Right here
Posts: 7,223
iTrader: 109 / 100%
Default

Trickster and Citadgrad, I second your sentiments. I would have visited my Dad's grave (USAAF 42-46) but it is about 3,000 miles from here.

I had to settle for thanking the 15 veterans (living and dead) and 2 serving family members via Facebook and a prayer.
__________________


"Everybody dies.. the thing is, to die well' Jack Harper

I'm a seven percenter
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-12-2016, 3:14 PM
Citadelgrad87's Avatar
Citadelgrad87 Citadelgrad87 is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,331
iTrader: 20 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smle-man View Post
Trickster and Citadgrad, I second your sentiments. I would have visited my Dad's grave (USAAF 42-46) but it is about 3,000 miles from here.

I had to settle for thanking the 15 veterans (living and dead) and 2 serving family members via Facebook and a prayer.
Sorry about the thread jack, but it appears to be shared sentiment.

I salute your veteran family members as well.

Take care, keep the faith, and hang on to that brass.

Oh, what are primers for BP like? Standard rifle or something exotic?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjsig View Post
You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Excelsior View Post
Please stop judging me. Your ad hominem attack does nothing more than show you don't pack the gear for this debate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-Hero View Post
I love this thread. One person standing alone masturbating furiously, while everyone else is pointing and laughing at his small weenie.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lear60man View Post
My transvestite analogy stands.
XXXXXXX
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-12-2016, 4:15 PM
gunboat's Avatar
gunboat gunboat is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: san josie now Dacula Ga.
Posts: 3,291
iTrader: 22 / 100%
Default

while unable to visit their resting places I gave a thought to my grandad WWI captain of the troopship Oakland, my dad cwo USMC, china marine and WWII 6th marine division --
Also my son, a survivor of the first gulf war, REO, flying in an EA-6b --

It is still perilous times we live in even if half the country seems oblivious to it --
my ha-penny
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-12-2016, 5:15 PM
smle-man's Avatar
smle-man smle-man is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Right here
Posts: 7,223
iTrader: 109 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Citadelgrad87 View Post
Sorry about the thread jack, but it appears to be shared sentiment.

I salute your veteran family members as well.

Take care, keep the faith, and hang on to that brass.

Oh, what are primers for BP like? Standard rifle or something exotic?
Nothing exotic primer wise. The choice is dictated by the pocket depth. The CBC cases need large pistol primers because the pocket is a bit more shallow. The Jamison cases are happy with a large rifle primer.

I've thought of using magnum primers to be sure the Pyrodex ignites properly but I'm concerned about increasing pressures so I haven't done it. And, I haven't had any Pyrodex ignition issues anyway so need I guess.
__________________


"Everybody dies.. the thing is, to die well' Jack Harper

I'm a seven percenter
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-12-2016, 9:10 PM
Enfield47's Avatar
Enfield47 Enfield47 is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 5,525
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Default

Nothing like a job well done smle-man.

I am grateful for all of our veterans and those currently serving to preserve our freedom and liberty.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-14-2016, 12:23 AM
ArnoldKC's Avatar
ArnoldKC ArnoldKC is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 329
iTrader: 17 / 100%
Default

Thank you to all Veterans who serve. Freedom rings because of each of you.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-18-2016, 5:03 AM
GM4spd's Avatar
GM4spd GM4spd is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Thousand Oaks
Posts: 4,471
iTrader: 88 / 100%
Default

Like the thread jack. Nice to see something worth reading.

__________________
NRA LIFE (1974)
Since 1971 my Colt ARs(thru thousands of rds) some
FA--and no parts failures . No spares required.

I had a commission/USNR from 71-77 but never consider myself a Veteran.My Dad and his four
brothers/USMC /WW2,Korea,Vietnam. Their Father US Army WW1. They were Veterans.

9/11 was our worst day----11/9 our best day!
"Guns and religion TRUMP hope and change"
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-19-2016, 7:29 PM
csm14thbn csm14thbn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 68
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

I was on Saipan participating in a ceremony at the WWII memorial.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-23-2016, 11:37 PM
ColdDeadHands1's Avatar
ColdDeadHands1 ColdDeadHands1 is online now
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains (Santa Clara County)
Posts: 3,099
iTrader: 67 / 100%
Default

Cool thread. From the interesting reloading lesson to the veteran tributes!
__________________


"Let me guess... This isn't about the alcohol or tobacco?"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 8:48 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2016, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.