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yes i would attend 69 89.61%
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Would you like to support your 2A rights by attending a banquet in your area much like the NRA, NWTF, and DU in support of CGF.?

This is not an authorized poll!!!! I am just curious and would be willing to help out. thanks

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C'mon ten peeps but no vote? at least submit a vote!!

This benefit i am proposing is to advance your rights and have a good time!!

but as of yet not endorsed by our leaders, CGF

let's let'em know!!
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I would attend, if I had a job and money to contribute. Right now I don't.
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I would like to attend...
Assuming it was in my area...
and in between my schooling...
and working...
and sleeping...

Shucks, I can't even find range time anymore. =(
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I would attend, if I had a job and money to contribute. Right now I don't.
YUP! These are tough times and i do understand!!
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I would like to attend...
Assuming it was in my area...
and in between my schooling...
and working...
and sleeping...

Shucks, I can't even find range time anymore. =(
IN YOUR AREA? I would think it would be a good thing to have several of these banquets for all of CA since we basically mirror the east coast that has many states on the east coast.

I wish i were but i am NOT representing CGF. I am only doing a poll. If it were favorable i would help and/or coordinate.
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I know its fun to troll and and debate our 2A rights!! Please vote!! Our rights depend on it!
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One small issue with this poll, it's a multiple choice poll, so one could vote in both. Otherwise, yes, I would attend.

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Not enough spare time, not enough spare money.

If anything, I'd rather save my time and just send a donation/contribution than spend it on gas to get there and food. YMMV
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I would attend as long as it was on a Saturday or Sunday.
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WOW! 77 views and only 13 votes.

How about this, in your area, 50-80 bucks depending on the cost of the facility in your area. Raffles and auctions of neat stuff!! Guns maybe??

Again, just a poll not endorsed by CGF or CGN!!! Sorry i didn't ask them first.
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If you don't vote you are anti 2A!!
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It kind of floors me that after 77 looks only 17 people would vote on this!

Are the antis the only ones lurking here? Its a simple poll!! Don't let the antis find that you won't put your money where your mouth is on a simple poll!!

Don't base this on how you feel about how i post. I am just joe gun owner like you who just wants 2a rights like all of you! Please vote to help our 2A rights
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Pleeeez pay no attention to me as Taperxz posting this!!! I know i can get sideways with my posts!! Please vote for your rights here in CA!! Lets do this together
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I imagine the reason your getting a lot of views and not a lot of votes is that it isn't endorsed by CGF. Why bother starting a poll about something that you haven't at least talked about with the people that would need to clear it?
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WOW! 77 views and only 13 votes.

How about this, in your area, 50-80 bucks depending on the cost of the facility in your area. Raffles and auctions of neat stuff!! Guns maybe??

Again, just a poll not endorsed by CGF or CGN!!! Sorry i didn't ask them first.
so, after food costs, prizes etc, they net $30ish per head? While I personally would LOVE to do a banquet, i do not have the time, imho, the money would be better directly donated to the cgf.... but I see your point, some people may not support without enticements.

also a banquet type event does help to raise awareness...


my family owns a corporate catering business, so I am familiar with the efforts and costs of food service...

imho i would think a VFW hall might be a thought for holding it. ymmv
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I imagine the reason your getting a lot of views and not a lot of votes is that it isn't endorsed by CGF. Why bother starting a poll about something that you haven't at least talked about with the people that would need to clear it?
Honestly? I'll tell you! CGF is very young! It becomes much larger and more powerful for your interests if volunteers push the envelope! IMO people that volunteer to raise funds to help our cause don't ask permission. They just do it! If any CGF person wants me to stop helping them, i will! If any non CGF member wants me to stop, just copy and paste this message and tell me to stop
I will then stop helping to fight for your 2A rights on a volunteer basis. How are the board able to do everything on there own without help from volunteers?????

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I would be interested in this type of event with raffles/ auction. Modesto/Stockton area
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Honestly? I'll tell you! CGF is very young! It becomes much larger and more powerful for your interests if volunteers push the envelope! IMO people that volunteer to raise funds to help our cause don't ask permission. They just do it! If any CGF person wants me to stop helping them, i will! If any non CGF member wants me to stop, just copy and paste this message and tell me to stop
I will then stop helping to fight for your 2A rights on a volunteer basis.
I didn't mean for what I said to come off as an attack on you. Nor am I denigrating you or your idea for CGF banquets. In fact it would probably be a great time. I'm just speculating as to why there is a small number of votes relative to the views, something you seemed curious about.

Benefit dinners and banquets are certainly nothing new for 501(c)(3) organizations, and if you were to run one it wouldn't be the first one organized by somebody other than a board member of said organization.

Something somewhat similar is in the works already as you may know and is being organized by Oaklander.
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I didn't mean for what I said to come off as an attack on you. Nor am I denigrating you or your idea for CGF banquets. In fact it would probably be a great time. I'm just speculating as to why there is a small number of votes relative to the views, something you seemed curious about.

Benefit dinners and banquets are certainly nothing new for 501(c)(3) organizations, and if you were to run one it wouldn't be the first one organized by somebody other than a board member of said organization.

Something somewhat similar is in the works already as you may know and is being organized by Oaklander.
Didnt take your comment in a bad way at all!!!

Point is that what Oaklander is doing will only cover a small part of the state! I am looking to broaden that. I have not been asked, recruited, or appointed!! I CAN make it happen though. It seems to me our leader have the legal part covered and i want to help/VOLUNTEER the money part.

I WANT TO VOLUNTEER AND PROGRESS OUR 2A RIGHTS. I am not a lawyer or expert in this area! I can put on a helluva shindig though!!
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I wouldn't drive 100 miles to one, but if it was relatively convenient, yes, I would go.
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One small issue with this poll, it's a multiple choice poll, so one could vote in both. Otherwise, yes, I would attend.

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Isn't oaklander setting something up like this already? Up north I think
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Yes - please see:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=396894

The one I am doing is different, I think. . .

It's more just a way to get people together - there's going to be no "official" fundraising. We might pass around a jar or something, that's about it. It's somewhat of a Calguns event, since Paul graciously said it was OK to use the Calguns name - but it's really low key. . .

I like the idea of doing real "official" events around the state, however. . .

There may be some more events coming up - there's some possibility of CRPA and/or additional Calguns events. Some of that stuff is being talked about right now. . .

I can't speak for CGF - but generally, if CGF events were to be held, they would need volunteers, since CGF is pretty "lean and mean!"

What's probably the best thing to do - if you want to do an event - is to contact your local C3 person, and pitch the idea. BUT - be prepared to work.

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Thanks Oak, Like I said it's just a simple poll. I was thinking along the lines of what CWA does state wide. CGF has to start somewhere! It's good for awareness, the foundation makes a few bucks, people have fun and get away from the keyboard! . No offense Kes!
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Awesome!!!!

Even though I hate to send work his way - since he's swamped with both CRPA and CGF stuff - what I would suggest is this:

Contact Wildhawker (Brandon) - and see who he thinks might want to help you with this. . .

What I've learned is that if you have a good idea, and pitch it to the right people - AND are willing to do the work - there's pretty much nothing that you can't do!!!

As I may have mentioned - there will be various events similar to this - some of them coming up soon. The "real" trick at this point will be to make sure all the events harmonize. . .

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I think it's much better for people to simply donate money to CGF. That way, they get the whole thing instead of having to spend most of it in organizing the banquet, food, catering etc.

CGF is small, not huge like the NRA, so it's not easy to do the same type of thing. The money is probably better spent donating directly instead of doing a banquet.
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Would Gene or Alan Guara be the guest speaker?
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Maybe a third option of "maybe"? If that was there that's what I'd pick. Mainly because I don't think I've ever been to a fundraiser dinner so am a little unsure of the atmosphere.

I picture stodgy-old-grey-haired-guys smoking cigars and drinking scotch. Not that there's anything wrong with a bunch of stodgy-old-grey-haired-guys smoking cigars and drinking scotch together (heck, I'm going grey in what is left of my hair and really enjoy my scotch, cigars not so much) but I'm not sure if I'd enjoy (and equally important if my wife would enjoy) that kind of event.
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I would have to think that if this were a sanctioned event, local to esteemed officers and all, it might be hard to pass up a free dinner for anyone on the board of directors for CGF. Not to mention i envision all volunteer work force, except the price of the banquet, and all proceeds going to CGF. Again though this is just what i envision.
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Maybe a third option of "maybe"? If that was there that's what I'd pick. Mainly because I don't think I've ever been to a fundraiser dinner so am a little unsure of the atmosphere.

I picture stodgy-old-grey-haired-guys smoking cigars and drinking scotch. Not that there's anything wrong with a bunch of stodgy-old-grey-haired-guys smoking cigars and drinking scotch together (heck, I'm going grey in what is left of my hair and really enjoy my scotch, cigars not so much) but I'm not sure if I'd enjoy (and equally important if my wife would enjoy) that kind of event.
Check out the events that Ducks Unlimited, National Wild Turkey Federation, California Waterfowl Assoc. ect. They all do this to raise funds and create awareness of there objectives. Its basically a dinner, auction, raffle, and fun. Auction and raffle items are donated to the banquet event. CGF is small and they gotta start somewhere. I would have to think that the many sponsors on this site would love to give something up for raffle or auction. Many of the events i listed above actually raffle off guns.
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Maybe a third option of "maybe"? If that was there that's what I'd pick. Mainly because I don't think I've ever been to a fundraiser dinner so am a little unsure of the atmosphere.
I attended my first Friends of the NRA dinner last year. I wore a jacket and tie. I was not "over dressed" but could have gone in jeans and a nice shirt and not been under dressed either. The dinner was on the USS Hornet and was a great time.
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I think you are "on to something good here."

Please, keep bugging Brandon - I know he's busy - but be persistent - we are planning something like this for CRPA right now - and I personally think that EVERY gun group in CA should be doing stuff like this - ALL THE TIME.

It's fun, and it's for a good cause - so there is ZERO downside!!!

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Just a thought....

Find an open Saturday or Sunday and rent the Hogue range @ SLOSA. $50 tickets buy a day at the range and a BBQ lunch. Maybe 9am to 3pm. The Calender shows the Saturday of July 23rd open.

Maybe some friendly shooting matches with a $5 buy in that pays 50% to winner.

50/50 rafle tickets, etc.

lots a ways to raise money with gun owners, an open range, and some BBQ on hand....

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Taper, good to see members wanting to get involved, us C3 Leaders can't do what we do on our own!

Check out the Calguns in Your Community, contact your C3 Leader; we'll help you figure out how you can get involved and we're definitely open to processing new ideas and checking that against where the powers-that-be want to head with our efforts.

The Shoot'n'Ques seem to be pretty popular events right now, Build Parties are gaining interest, Calgunners getting involved with local clubs/ranges/FFLs seems to be effective.

There's been some interest in getting some annual/quarterly events going, both locally or statewide. I don't really see CGF or CGN heading in the same direction as the Friends of NRA Dinners just yet but it seems like some sort of range day or dinner/raffle event, any routine meeting that could draw gunnies out from behind their keyboards, could work out really well.

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Thanks grease! That's good to know and my local coordinator has contacted me. Quarterly events would be great cause you could reach out to peoples timelines easier.
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