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Old 01-03-2017, 7:07 PM
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Anyone experience this? Been thinking about getting a Mossberg 500 soon. First I have seen/heard about this problem.

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Old 01-03-2017, 7:27 PM
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I have had my 500 for over ten years and never had that problem. However could be on newer ones that are made cheaper.
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Hmmmmmm
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dropped on the carpet needs to be sent to gunsmith
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I've dropped my 590a1 countless of times and it never did that. Even from higher heights. Odd.
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Old 01-03-2017, 8:42 PM
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No one should be surprised. Buy cheap buy often. A 500 is not that much more then a Maverick so anyone buying the Maverick and thinking they are simply getting a cheaper 500 is fooling themselves.
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I've dropped my 590a1 countless of times and it never did that. Even from higher heights. Odd.
Why do you drop your shotgun countless times?
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Old 01-03-2017, 9:26 PM
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I watched that and it's possible but I owned a 500 for about 30 years and never had that happen.

I'm not going to worry about it!
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Old 01-03-2017, 9:46 PM
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I don't think this has deterred me much from wanting a 500. It's the only shotgun I've shot (was in military) and I'm comfortable with it. Just odd that this problem exists. Maybe I'll try to recreate the problem myself when I get mine. Maybe not... I don't think I could bring myself to purposely drop my firearm.
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Old 01-03-2017, 10:22 PM
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I hunted for 20 years with my Ithaca 37 and I can't recall a time when I dropped it. Yeah it would be awesome to know that all of my guns could be dropped, kicked, fired under water, etc. but none of my HD weapons are ever treated that way.
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I also have owned 500/590/590A1 in my life and never had such problem; however, the video did catch my attention.

I wonder if nowadays that part is made more flexible than they used to be years ago?
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Old 01-03-2017, 11:46 PM
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Gun in the video is a maverick.

From the video: "Uh, pretty much, from my experience... they're pretty much the same gun... To my knowledge...""

Except the parts are NOT interchangeable...

Also from the video: "Made in mexico."
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Gun in the video is a maverick.

From the video: "Uh, pretty much, from my experience... they're pretty much the same gun... To my knowledge...""

Except the parts are NOT interchangeable...

Also from the video: "Made in mexico."
There are two differences

1. Forend of maverick is one piece. If you would like to use after market forend, you have to buy a 500 forend slide kit.
2. The safety is different. Therefore trigger assembly is different. Actually I prefer maverick's safety. It is easier to operate with pistal grip.

The rest: stock, barrel, mag tube are all interchangeable.

The only thing I don't like about mossberg 500 is the slide release. It is too short and aftermarket lever is rare.
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Old 01-04-2017, 7:39 AM
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Thanks for the video. For almost 20 years I've been issued and using the Mossberg 590A1 and didn't know about this. I did try this sideways-drop-test with my 15 year old 590A1 and it did cause the elevator (aka "lifter") to pop out from its pivot point in the receiver as shown in the video.

It will do this loaded or unloaded; bolt forward or back. I only tested by dropping it on the left side where I have a side-saddle mounted, as the side-saddle obscures the view of the left-side pivot point.

With the bolt open or back, I was able to wiggle the elevator to get the pivot point back into place. With the bolt forward, I got lucky and moving the safety forward moved the elevator enough where its pivot went back into its hole.

All good things to know. My main lesson is to not drop the shotgun on its side (or drop it at all); but if it does occur, I'll know how a jammed bolt feels and what could be causing it; and to look for whether the elevator has popped out of its pivot points.

I may still recommend a 590A1, but I'll also mention this issue to any potential buyer before purchase. Then the potential buyer can make an informed decision prior to purchase.
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Never had this issue with a 500 from the early 1990s....

But lots of things can happen.... I wonder if front sight has had this happen with the 590 rental guns....
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After 20+ 3-gun matches dumping my gun in a dump barrel, I've never had an issue. I'll keep and trust my gun. Freeky poop happens.
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my 1970's era M500 has been through the ringer many times.
never a hitch
spend enough time googling and you will find somebody has had a problem with everything
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Why do you drop your shotgun countless times?
Mostly when putting it back into the safe
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